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cuz what if she cheated on you and went and slept with another guy, and got pregnant from him, would you still love her??

No, but that wouldn't be my choice. If my girlfriend cheated on me, she wouldn't be the person I fell in love with (the one who swore she'd never cheat). Just as love happened all on its own, the love would go away all on its own because of how much she would have changed.

Besides, if everything is a choice, then I would choose whether or not to be hurt. But I'm pretty sure I'd be hurt by a cheating girlfriend no matter what I wanted to feel.

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excuse me but everything is a choice...you DO choose to love your girlfriend....cuz what if she cheated on you and went and slept with another guy, and got pregnant from him, would you still love her??most likely not.....so you DO choose whether or not you love her....

Obviously you know nothing about love. You can love someone while, at the same time, condeming their actions. If you really love someone you would forgive them, even for a transgresion as serious as cheating. You can't choose love.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by clpo13:
As YV said, you can't choose your feelings. They exist whether you acknowledge them or not. I don't choose to be sad about the death of a relative. I don't choose to be in love with my girlfriend. I don't choose to be happy when I get good grades. I just am.


excuse me but everything is a choice...you DO choose to love your girlfriend....cuz what if she cheated on you and went and slept with another guy, and got pregnant from him, would you still love her??most likely not.....so you DO choose whether or not you love her....

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Originally posted by Shade:
You.

He probably does, little doubt there. Isn't that an odd thing? Why do people do that do you wonder?

human curiosity. We want what we can't have, and [gayness] we hate what we have too much of.

You.

He probably does, little doubt there. Isn't that an odd thing? Why do people do that do you wonder?

Who, me? Or the cat that thinks it's gross?

I bet you he thinks two lesbians making out is "awesome, dude!"

Good lord, you're aweseome. Why don't you come here more often? I absolutely love everything you say.

I honestly am tired of having debates about this with people who have the intellectual depth of mayonaisse

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But do you have a GENUINE ANSWER? Can you explain WHY you don't belive in it?

Of course he can't. His wisdom score is so low he only knows what he feels not why, beyond simple two word answers such as "it's gross." ( And me referencing D&D means that I've been deprived of it for too long. )

I still just find it hilarious that everybody has such a STRONG image of homosexuality; that it's wrong, it's unfruitful, it's a sin.However, they're forgetting one thing: They're not homosexual! It's the GLBT community that gets left in the lurch.

Quand il vient au mariage, je choisis le choix.

Je choisis le choix.

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you feel attracted to the same sex, so you decide that you are gay.

As YV said, you can't choose your feelings. They exist whether you acknowledge them or not. I don't choose to be sad about the death of a relative. I don't choose to be in love with my girlfriend. I don't choose to be happy when I get good grades. I just am.

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here is the answer to your topic question. no

"No" is no answer. You need to give reasoning. Without it, you have no argument. I could just as easily have said "yes" to the question at hand, and then what? We'd be at a standoff. Neither of us has provided any evidence supporting our claim. And we certainly can't have two answers, can we now?

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Originally posted by moneybagz:
here is the answer to your topic question. no

But do you have a GENUINE ANSWER? Can you explain WHY you don't belive in it?

here is the answer to your topic question. no

It can;t be just black and white. You can also choose to ignore your feelings too, but they're still feelings that you can't control. take it from someone who knows.

You decide to engage yourself with the same sex, but not to feel it.

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its something you decide that you are...you feel attracted to the same sex, so you decide that you are gay.

That's a contradiction. If you feel attracted to the same sex, than you are not deciding that you are gay, you just are.

no you are not born gay....its something you decide that you are...you feel attracted to the same sex, so you decide that you are gay.

sry! I'll get off my high horse,

Jaymeister -- In the future, please try to condense all your writing to one post. To keep the "flow of the boards" going, posting multiple times in succession on one topic is something we try to limit. Thanks!

OH, from a one-man critical stand point, it's entirely plausible. But when have PEOPLE ever been reasonable? No doubt, I didn't really "choose" to want male companionship, although I had the choice to deny it. I was also influenced by people around me, having a very strong background in Theatre. I agree that it's certain points of both.

But people want it in a way they can understand, and that goes with what they believe. That automatically makes it "black and white." Openminded people wil always try and do the right thing to others as long as they get something in return. The most outspoken christian groups will always be against it because of Lev. 18:22 and Matthew 1. things are at a stalemate, and homosexuals are caught in the doldrum, which means nothing's gonna happen any time soon.

SRY if I keep going back and forth in my opinions, I'm trying to play devil's advocate for both sides (why do there have to be sides!?).