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Picture of aaathreat
Registered: September 06, 2005
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ok to clear things up down below! you can choose who to like. if you could choose WHO TO LIKE life would be too easy. that's why we don't get to choose the love of our lifes AHEAD OF TIME! so now i don't think being gay is a choice and i think for some people its more a part of discovering themselves while others have already found that part of themselves already.


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Registered: March 30, 2005
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Originally posted by kountrykate3:
Ok...God did create the homosexuals...but not homosexuality. See, the devil cannot create anything new...he only copies what God. has already created and God created love and the feelings you have for others...but satan took those feelings and twisted and perverted them into something evil and sinful.

In the Bible, does it ever say that the devil created homosexuality? I don't recall. I firmly believe that if God "created" people, he "created" both gay and straight people and we should therefore respect and love both.

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You're not going to et into Heaven if you're gay, lesbian, bi or whatever...that's not how we were created. (See Leviticus 18:22)


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Leviticus is disregared because that is part of the Old Law...whe Jesus came and died on the cross the Old Law was done away with and we came under the new law...that's why Leviticus is disregared.


If Leviticus is disregarded, why did you use it as a source?


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Registered: October 28, 2005
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no, my email is Neh_to_you@yahoo.com


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Registered: July 08, 2005
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Is your IM name the same as your e-mail? 'Cuz I don't have AIM anymore
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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I have AIM. My Im is in my profile. If that doesn't work you could try YNmailing me


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Registered: July 08, 2005
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Well can I ask you something personal...I don't want to have this conversation for everyone to see...do you have MSN IM?
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Originally posted by kountrykate3:

I agree...homosexuality is a choice...LoveThe Rainbow...have you honestly always liked girls? Straight isn't only easier...it's inate inside of us.


Yes I have. I swear on my beloved Harry Potter books and All things Chuck Palahniuk that I have always like girls and that I have never had romantic feelings for a boy. I swear on Cat's Cradle and Catcher in The Rye that even the thought of doing anything with a penis makes me want to vomit. I swear on 1984 and all that is Steinbeck that my love is not a perversion. One day, whether it be one that you spend here on earth or in what ever afterlife you believe in, you will realize that I am right in saying that I did not choose this.


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Registered: July 08, 2005
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Originally posted by Knighthammer:
An interesting thought but i still dont buy it i think theres two paths and somewhere along the road you pick one straight is the easier one therefore most people pick it.


I agree...homosexuality is a choice...LoveThe Rainbow...have you honestly always liked girls? Straight isn't only easier...it's inate inside of us.
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Registered: July 08, 2005
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Originally posted by Greenleaf771:

To KountryKate:

Again, on the Bible thing. God "created" us in his eye. Therefore, he "created" homosexuals, too. Homosexuality is *not* the devil's tool. How do you know that homosexuality isn't God's response to over-population? (That was obviously a joke, so don't jump on me, seeing as homosexuality has been "occurring" long before overpopulation.)

The men who wrote the bible were not necessarily the closest to God. The first five books were written way pre-Jesus (they're Judaism's Torah, obviously), but most of the rest were chosen from a slew of books written between the death of Jesus and sometime in 300 CE (can't remember the exact date). The Council of Nicea in the 300s CE dictated a lot of what was kept in the Bible and what was excluded. Most people these days disregard the book of Leviticus, seeing as it demands the most ridiculous things of people.

So, there's the Christianity rant from a *very, very* moderate/loose Christian.


Ok...God did create the homosexuals...but not homosexuality. See, the devil cannot create anything new...he only copies what God. has already created and God created love and the feelings you have for others...but satan took those feelings and twisted and perverted them into something evil and sinful.

I didn't mean they were the closet people to God thathave ever walked the earth...but they were extremely close to God. Leviticus is disregared because that is part of the Old Law...whe Jesus came and died on the cross the Old Law was done away with and we came under the new law...that's why Leviticus is disregared.
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Registered: July 08, 2005
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And as for you kate wasent it said by jesus that whatever you hold true on earth i'll hold true in heaven? sorry if i am wrong i am just going by what i heard in 'Dogma'.


It is true what you hold true on earth will be held true in Heaven...if you get into Heaven. You're not going to et into Heaven if you're gay, lesbian, bi or whatever...that's not how we were created. (See Leviticus 18:22)
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Registered: August 09, 2006
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An interesting thought but i still dont buy it i think theres two paths and somewhere along the road you pick one straight is the easier one therefore most people pick it.


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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Because I said that To choose you had to be attracted to both men and women, which would make you bi. And you siad that you don't believe bi really exists. Therfore you are not bi. Therefore you did not choose your sexuality


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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and you reached that conclusion how? your not making any sense just spouting the opposite of what i say.


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Then you didn't chose your sexuality


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I dont think anyone is truely bi i mean being bi is being more confused than a gay person.


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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Originally posted by Knighthammer:
Yes i did choose to be straight. Thats the easier way since most children see their mother and father together however part 2 of my theory is that at some point during childhood had some experience with homosexuality that helped subconciously push them in tha direction like a repressed memory.


Why do you think you chose your sexuality? To choose you had to be attracted to both men and women, which would make you bi. And if it was my subconcious then it wasn't a choice.


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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If the reason is really beyond you, which really trtanslates as you don't really know what you're talking about, then why are you so adamant about defending it?

Thats why its a theory.


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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Originally posted by Knighthammer:
My theory remains for some reason that is beyond me people choose to be gay somewhere along the line.


If the reason is really beyond you, which really trtanslates as you don't really know what you're talking about, then why are you so adamant about defending it?


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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Yes i did choose to be straight. Thats the easier way since most children see their mother and father together however part 2 of my theory is that at some point during childhood had some experience with homosexuality that helped subconciously push them in tha direction like a repressed memory.


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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My theory remains for some reason that is beyond me people choose to be gay somewhere along the line.

Did you choose to be straight? If not, how do you know it's possible to choose attraction?

I'll respond to the rest later.


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