To quote Falcone from 'Batman Begins' "This is a world you'll never understrand and you always fear what ya dont understand." My theory remains for some reason that is beyond me people choose to be gay somewhere along the line.

My point is that she (hypothetically, not necessarily talking about Love here) didn't make a choice to be homosexual. She made the choice to not deprive herself of what her body was teling her to do, which incidentally, was that she liked women and found them attractive.

You may be able to pretend you're heterosexual, but that doesn't change the fact that deep down, you know you're just hiding from yourself. It takes a strong person to realize and accept that. It also takes a strong person to try and understand others.

To Greenleaf: If you are right then she during puberty did make a choice your argument only supports my theory more.

To Knight:

I don't believe Love reached a fork in the rode and chose to be a lesbian. It would make sense that when hormones kick in at adolescence (sp?), people begin feeling different urges. Perhaps Love felt attracted to women and chose to not deny herself her true self and, therefore, pursue that which makes her happy. Of course, I'm not love, so I wouldn't know (feel free to correct me, Love).


To KountryKate:

Again, on the Bible thing. God "created" us in his eye. Therefore, he "created" homosexuals, too. Homosexuality is *not* the devil's tool. How do you know that homosexuality isn't God's response to over-population? (That was obviously a joke, so don't jump on me, seeing as homosexuality has been "occurring" long before overpopulation.)

The men who wrote the bible were not necessarily the closest to God. The first five books were written way pre-Jesus (they're Judaism's Torah, obviously), but most of the rest were chosen from a slew of books written between the death of Jesus and sometime in 300 CE (can't remember the exact date). The Council of Nicea in the 300s CE dictated a lot of what was kept in the Bible and what was excluded. Most people these days disregard the book of Leviticus, seeing as it demands the most ridiculous things of people.

So, there's the Christianity rant from a *very, very* moderate/loose Christian.

Glad you missed me yogore and you all can say whatever you want nothing will change what i think. lovetherainbow whatever way you think you were born somewhere along the road you reached a fork and choose one path...kinda like anakin skywalker. He could have helped mace windu kill darth sidious but he choose to kill mace windu and become darth vader are you following me? sorry if i am repeating my self but homosexuality is a choice i have said it before and i will say it again. And as for you kate wasent it said by jesus that whatever you hold true on earth i'll hold true in heaven? sorry if i am wrong i am just going by what i heard in 'Dogma'.

I'm sorry if I made it sound that way...I know the Bible was written by man and that man is flawed...but if you look at teh men who wrote the Bible...they were as close to God as we humans can get...I can't remember if it was Elijah or Elisha...but he was so close to God...he vanished into thin air...to go be with God. Moses, the one God gave the Ten Commandments to, he lived to be almost 1,000 years old becasue of his faithfulness and obedience to God. Paul, one of Jesus' 12 disciples while He was on earth, went all over and preached the Word of God. God chose and still chooses carefully who He speaks to. He's not going to tell someone who goes out and drinks every night, who goes to church Sunday mornings and Wednesday nights, something He wants the world to know...because He knows no one would believe it. I'm sorry if it comes out as me preaching to you...I'm not trying to by any means.

I do believe you. Believe it or not a heathen like me has read the bible. But one must remember that the bible was written by MAN and translated by MAN. MAN is so flawed.

Like I said...I believe in GOD...He created us...and in the Bible God created A man and A woman to begin with...and They reproduced. (Genesis 1:26-28) That was paraphrased of course...if you don't believe me...see it for yourself.

If you are born striaght then why isn't it a possiblity that you are born gay?

I think you're right...being gay is a choice...no one is born gay. But I do believe you're born "straight"...because I believe God created us in His image...and He's totally against homosexuality...but He still loves them...homosexuality is a tool of the devil and it's apparently working. I'm not trying to diss anyone when I say that...that's my belief and opinion.

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Originally posted by Knighthammer:
Ok ok one at a time please LoveTheRainbow my previous account was called WJ and i was banned.
secondly i dont need something to back up my beliefs i think gays are either confused or desprate since the natural way is a man and a women having sex thats it there is nothing more to it! Freedomordeath ya know what i am crazy and i dont give a f--k. *Tupac quote*. Yogore whats my source? common sense! Yogore you can tell yourself whatever you want that wont change what i think so whatever helps you sleep at night.

Apperently common sense isn't so common. Look, believe what you want but I am neither confused nor desperate.

I don't know how or why I am a lesbian but I am. No one knows for sure. I cannot even fathom why you think you know when most gay people can't even give you a difinitive answer.

Chances are you will not read this link but it is basically a summary of everything I could use to prove you wrong because unlike your beliefs this has scientific backing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

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my previous account was called WJ

Aww, WJ I've missed you.

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Yogore whats my source? common sense!

That's not a source. Source according to dictionary.com:

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One, such as a person or document, that supplies information

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Yogore you can tell yourself whatever you want that wont change what i think so whatever helps you sleep at night.

It's cute that you think I'm losing sleep over you.

Ok ok one at a time please LoveTheRainbow my previous account was called WJ and i was banned.
secondly i dont need something to back up my beliefs i think gays are either confused or desprate since the natural way is a man and a women having sex thats it there is nothing more to it! Freedomordeath ya know what i am crazy and i dont give a f--k. *Tupac quote*. Yogore whats my source? common sense! Yogore you can tell yourself whatever you want that wont change what i think so whatever helps you sleep at night.

Sorry Double post

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and i am not that new to YN i just havent been on in about a year

So then knighthammer, what was your previous account name? Because the account you are using now was made on August 10, 2006.

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Originally posted by Knighthammer:
Because that is what I believe that is my anwser no bible spewing no religious crap just my honest belief.

You need something to back it up. I debate is presenting facts to prove your point. YOU HAVE NO EFFING FACTS. Therefore this is not a debate. Its a match of "yes-huh" "nu-huh"

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Trust me the Jedi dont have many reservations about homosexuality

Wow... You really ARE crazy.

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Natural primordial instincts inbeded however deep into a humans mind will tell you, mark my words, that a man wants to have sex with a women.

What's your source?

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At best gay men are confused at worst they are desprate.

Are you gay? No, so how would you know? I am neither confused nor desperate, thankyouverymuch. One can only assume reasoning for things that they do not personally know. I assume straight men are attracted to women just because they are, with no rhyme or reason. I'm only extrapolating, so correct me if I am wrong,

Because that is what I believe that is my anwser no bible spewing no religious crap just my honest belief.

And why do you say this? Honestly.

Trust me the Jedi dont have many reservations about homosexuality and you wont get any bible spewing from me. At best gay men are confused at worst they are desprate.