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Registered: April 14, 2002
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Freely available weaponry supports terror--if you oppose gun control, you do, too.

Or, if you really believe there's a strong link,

Drug prohibition creates a business opportunity for terrorists--if you oppose legalizing drugs, you support terror, too.

Drugs funding terrorism is exactly the kind of false propaganda the American government favours - cuz so many of its citizens are passive sheep who will swallow anything that an 'important looking' guy in a suit says. 'Specially if he's standing in front of an American flag. 'Ooohh, he's with the *government*, he must be telling the truth then. Uh, right?'

Pft.

Everyone that I know who uses drugs gets them from our area - cultivated and created no where near any terrorist groups. Unless by 'terrorist' you mean peace-loving hippies who have Masters degrees in ethnobotany.

Here's an indie media link : Pricey Prime Time Propaganda: Anti-Drug Adverts and the Super Bowl

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Registered: March 20, 2002
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ok I wanted to talk about some things:
The first, some1 said that oh poor drug buyers that buy these illegal substances, for they do not know that they are supporting terrorism, yes pooorrr innocent drug buyers and users... everyone knows that drugs come from terrorists and guerrilla whether is the farc or the talibans, and i really dont think the drug buyers will care who they are supporting. Anyway it’s a weird and ironic thing that the US tries to fight drug and guerrilla yet it receives most of the drugs produced by terrorists

The second thing. Of course the US supports their enemies, because for the government of the us the economy-based relations and the war-based relations are two separate things. Even when the us were enemies of russia after the world war 2, they kept exporting them their products. And I don’t think that the government is just blaming everyone else for the problems. But it’s a logical thing, if no one buys drugs from terrorists then the terrorist have no way of surviving.

The third thing, I read the web pages that locutus posted. I really don’t agree with most of what is posted in them. I live in Venezuela, we are next door neighbors to Colombia, the farc affects my country and my people. The colombian government issue (with the farc) is a lot more complicated than that. And trying to make peace with a guerrilla is kind of hard, especially when you are about to sign a peace deal and they pull on of their terrorists acts. The 3 pages had very different topics so it would be great if locutus could some up all the facts that he knows about Colombian guerrilla and government so we could understand what he wanted to say.
But I do agree with him on the corruption thing, to me it seems that politicians all over the world are very power thirsty, and only care about the money.
Well, that’s all I wanted to say so bye
Registered: April 03, 2002
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im an israeli and i dont need to hear that BS... im not part of this site because i like hearing insults about my country and the people i love. so next time you wanna say lies like that go somewhere else and do that.

Why dont you need to hear this true and accurate information ? As Wells said, "The nationalist not only does not care about atrocities commited by his government, but also seldom knows of them". Your country is a terrorist state that kills women and children and that is enacting racist laws banning the sale of land to Arabs. Your prime minister, sharon, was a participant in genocide and massacres, burning down and pillaging villages.

You are part of this site to express your opinions and defend them, and I will not stop speaking my opinions and facts, and the truth just because you do not want to hear of atrocities committed by your government.

If you care to refute any of these statements, please do so with facts and not poorly spelled internet speak.
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[This message was edited by YNLissa on July 10, 2002 at 08:29 AM.]
Registered: April 03, 2002
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"im an israeli and i dont need to hear that BS"


Personally, we don't care what you NEED TO HEAR. We will say what we like. I'm sorry, but speech is allowed on this website, even if it offends someone. Boo hoo. If you don't like it, put up a good defense against it. I am personally against the government of Israel, also.
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Registered: April 07, 2002
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sry for sum reason i thought that locutus was a girl
so i take all those she's back
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Registered: April 07, 2002
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when i said she duzzent kno the facts i meant when she sed
" The US government sends billlions of dollars and weapons to Israel, a blatantly terrorist state which holds national leaders hostage, burns down villages, and whos president is a self acclaimed butcher of palestinian women and children ! "
im an israeli and i dont need to hear that BS... im not part of this site because i like hearing insults about my country and the people i love. so next time you wanna say lies like that go somewhere else and do that.

btw - i like spelling things like that...im sorry if you have a problem with that..
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Registered: April 18, 2002
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1) locutus obviously knows many facts.
2) he can actually spell words correctly.

both of these characteristics are welcome additions to any message board.
Registered: April 03, 2002
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http://english.pravda.ru/politics/2001/10/31/19656.html

http://www.starhawk.com/uwa/uwapleaforhelp.htm
http://www.totse.com/en/politics/right_to_keep_and_bear_arms/narc_gun.html

Haha, puppy, save the charachter attacks and insults, as I do know what I'm talking about, and our government is just as corrupt as columbia's, if not more.

[This message was edited by YNLissa on July 09, 2002 at 10:16 AM.]
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Registered: April 07, 2002
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i just wanted to say...
if u dont dont the facts then shut up and stop speaking out of ur ***..no1 needs u to say BS about their country..if u wanna do that, thern go to a differant msg board, because no1 here needs to hear ur crap
Registered: April 03, 2002
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FARC is no more or less corrupt than te columbian government itself, they arent terrorists anymore than the revolutionaries of the US were.
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Registered: March 20, 2002
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for everyone that doesnt know, the FARC is the colombian revolutionary armed forces, theyre guerrilla.
Registered: July 08, 2002
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This idea that drugs support terrorism is a grain of truth. We also support terrorism by buying oil from iraq. 80% of oil out of iraq is through hsliburton( Veep Cheny is CEO). This is just propaghanda b/c the war on drugs is failing.
Registered: May 26, 2002
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that has never said,'excuse me,'i'm sorry', please or thank you'"-ani difranco
kg
Registered: April 18, 2002
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those ads took a modicum of truth and blew it way out of proportion. some drug money does indeed make it to terrorist bank accounts. but it pales in comparison to the billions spent on oil as well as the direct funding of terrorists by the United States (look at locutus' post). the ads were a shameful waste of money and only served to further divide society instead of addressing the essential problems of terrorism. if you really want to combat terrorism, buy an electric car.
Registered: April 03, 2002
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The first time I saw that commercial, I thought it was a joke making fun of the US government for using 'anti-terrorism' in everything, and the second time I saw it I was outraged when I realized it was serious.

The only drugs produced by terrorists are heroin and opium, and the vast majority of that never makes it to the US. Additionally, if all drugs were legalized, terrorists would have even less of a market, as cheap, mass produced US-made drugs would cost far less than clandestinely manufactured drugs that had to be smuggled around the world.

Moreso, the CIA and US government gave Bin Laden and the taliban their training and weapons, intending them for use against the soviets in the 80s. We also helped Saddam Hussein in trying to get Iraq to continue fighting Iran, again because of soviet support of Iran. We buy oil from known terrorist organizations as well. The US government sends billlions of dollars and weapons to Israel, a blatantly terrorist state which holds national leaders hostage, burns down villages, and whos president is a self acclaimed butcher of palestinian women and children ! If that isnt enough, the US government INTESELF even commits terrorism by declaring wars for oil in a farcical attempt to blame it on 'terrorism'. The US government is responsible for and continues to support and conduct errorism more than any other entity on the planet !
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Registered: August 14, 2001
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The people who bought the drugs aren't at fault for what happened. They had no way of knowing. If there was a grocery store that was giving some of it's profits to terrorists, nobody would make a commercial saying that it was the fault of people who bought stuff there.
Registered: August 30, 2001
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Hello...Once again our government is trying to push the blame off on someone else. From what I know about drugs, the most common drugs used in this country come from this country or from places in South America and Mexico. I'm not an expert or anything but from the knowledge I have the most common drugs are pot, Coccain, LSD, Extasey just to name a few. The LSD, Ex, and the other mind altering drugs are produced by people usually in our country. Prescription drugs are also prevelent and those are from our "perfect country" also. It takes a special breed of people to take the risk of bringing it over the border but there are those few. Our government is trying once again to blame drugs for all that is wrong in our society. Maybe they need to take a closer look... confused
Registered: August 05, 2001
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I don't know what FARC is: sorry can't answer.
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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You mean the same cocaine manufactured and trafficked by FARC?
Registered: August 05, 2001
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Addicts or even occasional users have enough on their minds without our sleezeball government trying to put the weight of terrorist damages on their shoulders!

The only drug that these terrorists (Osama and the Taliban crew) are getting profit from is Opium. The desert of Afganistan is blanketed with poppies, and the Taliban government sold Opium. Remember that money is no problem for Mr. Bin Laden, he is an Arabian Prince, putting him in the league of the ridiculous.

I haven't seen much Opium around the drug scene that I know. Most kids, who the ads are targeted at, are into Marijuana, Ecstasy, pain killers, Cocaine, and acid.

I don't think that this government of ours that is giving a blanket statement that buying drugs funds terrorists would do much talking if anyone brought up G.W.'s old blow habit. The left wingers were decent enough not to rub that in anyone's face at election time. Unlike an episode involving the inhaling (or NOT inhaling wink) of a certain substance that many don't even consider a real drug.

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