Please learn to spell, and if you want anyone to take you seriously don't say things like "retard kids"

Hey people smoking has been the foundation of colonial U>S and all of the sudden u want to put a ban on smoking. hey newsflash im from cali and pay my 5 cent tax on my smokes and that goes to the retard childern foundation k. so lay off, we smokers are playing a big role is their money contribution

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Americans are allowed opportunity for "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

As are Canadians, but those rights can be restricted through section one of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms if it is demonstrably justifiable, and in this case, I believe it is.

Americans are allowed opportunity for "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

I definitley think it should be ban. I have the right to go into a public place and not be exposed to someone's tobacco fumes. Second hand smoke kills too. A girl I met at Debate camp got LUNG CANCER just from her step-dad smoking in the house. She's had it 2-3 times just from dumb and insensitive people like her step-dad who fail to think about other's health. They can smoke their lungs out for all I care but just not around me. My step-dad smokes but he can't smoke in the house. If I were to get lung-cancer or any other kind of cancer from him smoking, my mom would divorce him in a heart-beat.

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The same can be said in refute, Bushsupporter. Studies prove anything, it's the validity of each study (to the individual) that most people go by.

I totally agree with you.
Also, it seems like I am constantly having to ask the same question, why do non smokers have to go elsewhere, when its the smokers that are creating the problem. As a citizen of my country, my constitution allows me the right to life, and if smoking has to be banned from public places for that right to be even more affective, then all the power to the government doing it.

The same can be said in refute, Bushsupporter. Studies prove anything, it's the validity of each study (to the individual) that most people go by.

What is your point, anyway? I don't know if even you understand the difference between public and private. Doctors can be private. Cars are private unless owned by local, state or federal officials. Guns can be owned by anyone, but rarely displayed anywhere "public." Be more specific when trying to make an argument against "the commies"...

You are right bauhaus. I am now supporting a ban on doctors, cars, and guns in "public places." Public means I guess that people are there, although I am not sure that a private business is a "public place." But the commies have had their way - common effort for the common good garbage.

Second hand somoke is not proven to be harmful for people and in fact many studies say that it isn't. If enough businesses find that they are losing profit due to smoking, they will implement their own bans. Let the market place take care of the issue, not the government.

All I'm saying is that if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. No one makes you sniff the smoke in public places. If you don't like it, then walk away.

Doctors kill people too. should doctors be banned? Everyone has a doctor.

Not everyone smokes to be cool.

Okay. SITUATION:

You want to kill yourself. No way around it. You've been in therapy for 40+ years, and your parents have died and it is estimated your spouse could die any day now. All very depressing, so you decide you'll do it. So you put a 20-gauge in your mouth right in front of a mirror. Just before you pull the trigger, you see your spouse walk in right behind you. Everything is in slow motion; the snap, the scream, the bullet escaping the barrel. But does your spouse deserve all of this?

http://www.statcan.ca/english/kits/pdf/social/second2.pdf

If everyone id so worries about the businesses, think about this. The next dietary fad, gas price hike, or restaurant to be built, can all affect how a business does. When you decide to get a business, you are aware that its survival is not a definite thing, and many factors play into this.
Currently there is a partial smoking ban in Ontario, which allows smoking rooms. By making it a total ban, a more level playing field would be created for those companies that can't afford such luxeries, which means that a smoking ban could help some business boom.
And for those who say that second hand smoke is not dangerous, look at some of these stats.
67%of non-smokers are bothered by smoking, 47% are physically bothered, eg: coughing, lung irritation, etc.
300 people die of Cancer in Canada from second hand smoke a year, and 10x this amount die from a coronary disease caused by second hand smoke every year.
These stats are from statistics Canada, a government agency responsible for gethering stats in Canada. Check out the website

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As I've been trying to tell everyone, the statistics behind the major studies that are used by most of these anti-smoking campaignes are very dodgy. There is no solid link between second-hand smoke and cancer. First hand smokers are risking thier own health, which makes it thier responsibility

Studies have shown that second-hand smokers are at risk. They might be on te low side, but it still happens.
-Sunset

And OTHER studies have found that second hand smoke causes no signifigant risk. The EPA study, statisically, shows that there was no real risk increase. The 1998 WHO study also showed no risk increase.

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As I've been trying to tell everyone, the statistics behind the major studies that are used by most of these anti-smoking campaignes are very dodgy. There is no solid link between second-hand smoke and cancer. First hand smokers are risking thier own health, which makes it thier responsibility

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Studies have shown that second-hand smokers are at risk. They might be on te low side, but it still happens.
-Sunset

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Originally posted by Sunset:
Rap music doesnt cause breathing problems and lung and mouth cancer. Which thousand of second-hand and first-hand smokers suffer and die from everyday.
-Sunset

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As I've been trying to tell everyone, the statistics behind the major studies that are used by most of these anti-smoking campaignes are very dodgy. There is no solid link between second-hand smoke and cancer. First hand smokers are risking thier own health, which makes it thier responsibility.

Rap music doesnt cause breathing problems and lung and mouth cancer. Which thousand of second-hand and first-hand smokers suffer and die from everyday.
-Sunset

the wurst part about ppl smoking is when they do that to get noticed and feel cool..i mean there are these 2 gurls i knw who go to coffee shops smoke cigarettes and carry guitars without even knwing how to play them just to look cool..its so ironic...gosh its totally annoying too..

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You cant always avoid it, sweetie.

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And I can't always avoid rap music, which is much more vile than cigarette smoke.