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Registered: March 02, 2003
Posts: 2224
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Why do you hate it when someone proclaims their sexuality, Billy? Are you really that insecure about your own? What do you think Mardi Gras is in comtemporary life?...an excuse for drunk guys to go down to New Orleans and to throw beads at girls to get them to flash them...not much different than a gay parade.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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quote: That's not love, that's lust in my book; the wants and desires to ravage someone's behind -- ah, yes, gayness.
Both males and females have sexual desires, whether they are homosexual or heterosexual. I think that you're too absorbed in homosexuality, Joey.. are you coming out of the closet? 
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Registered: March 02, 2003
Posts: 2224
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Joey: So it's okay for a guy to stick his penis is a girl's ***, but when two guys do that, it's sick?
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Registered: October 04, 2002
Posts: 60
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WOAH~~~~ I didn't mean to offend anyone - in fact, I was trying to do the opposite. I wanted to see if anyone would actually write something mean so that i could "educate" them. No, I'm not gay or anything but I honestly don't have any problems with people who are. I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. <p> Anyway - cya later.
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Registered: May 25, 2003
Posts: 35
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it seems to me that a lot of you are just focusing on the sexual part of being gay. has it occured to you that there is so much more? why do your minds automatically jump to the sex? just as there is more to a loving heterosexual relationship than sex (usually), there is more to a loving homosexual relationship than sex. don't you understand that they are just as able to love their significant others as straight people are?
besides, when you really think about it, any kind of sex is rather gross.
sexual orientation is only a fraction of who someone is. just because someone is gay does not mean they necessarily have any specific personality. some people who are homosexual are kind, some are mean, some are funny, some are boring, etc. same goes for heterosexuals.
and one more thing. homosexuals are just as capable of being loving, understanding, terrific parents as heterosexuals are. there is no reason why the children of two men or two women cannot love their parents as much as any other child, and besides, this gives the children a home that they might not otherwise have. and why should the children be embarrassed of their parents' sexual orientation? i would think that they would be raised to be more tolerant than most...and why shouldn't they love their parents just like the children of any loving and caring heterosexual parents?
~silver spirit
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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I can't speak for everyone here, but I have said this before, since when does the definition of activist mean left wing progression only?? I was under the impression that everyone was allowed to be an activist in a free country??? However by putting everyone down, you are defeating your own case, instead of saying oh you are prejudice and ignorant, why don't you explain from a gay point of view. This person asked for the truth about how people feel. I was attacked and called homophobic because I said men's butts don't turn me on. Is this how you feel? Or do you feel...I'm just not gay, so I couldn't possibly be attracted to a man. As for knowing gays and being exposed to them....I think I know quite a few  Knowledge comes from understanding everyone and not just shuting people out because they don't support your view point.
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Registered: May 29, 2003
Posts: 1
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I don't know what to say. I just found this website and I don't think I'm going to be comfortable here. I thought this site had more of an activist, progressive slant ... guess not. Even most of you who posted that you supposedly "support" gays and lesbians wrote in such a contradictory manner that you pretty much nullified any supposed "tolerance" you have for homosexuality.
Anyway. You all need more exposure to gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgendered individuals. You can't form opinions on people you've never met before. You don't understand them so you fear them, hence, prejudice. Lovely.
And yes, I am a lesbian. I'm comfortable with that. Too bad for you that you'd let your ignorance get in the way of knowing me.
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Registered: April 23, 2003
Posts: 28
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~*~*~ i honestly....*~*~*~*~ i honestl;y dont care. lots of peopel think it is gross and disgusting. i dont care really. its there choice to gay or lez. people shouldnt judge them or call them names or traet them unfairly just because of their sexuality. it snot fair to them. just think if yiou where in their place. if u were being ridiculed for who u have sex witjh or what gender your mate was, its truly unfair. so, i dont care,its there choice.
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Registered: July 13, 2002
Posts: 490
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This is a very controversial subject where I live. See, I go to a very strict Baptist Chruch where we are taught that homosexuality is an ultimate sin, and if we see or know a homosexual, we should begin extreme actions to convert them to Christianity. I on the other hand feel that if they like the same sex, that's THEIR THING. It's none of my business. I don't really like it, but I won't rag on a person about it.
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Registered: May 10, 2003
Posts: 3
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I have no problem with any sexual preferences morally or religiously as far as I am concerned. In fact I find it very sad when people voice a fear or disgust toward lesbiens or gays. These people are just like you and me, they have families, hopes, and dreams. In fact I think the people that are disturbed by these things should take a step back and look at the big picture. All it is, is another form of discrimination. Your most likely judging someone unfairly because A) your afraid or B) you don't really understand. And to be perfectly truthful I wouldn't be suprised if I ended up being bi-sexual... 
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<JoeyDauben>
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See, how can gays be all about love if their focus is all on some male's rear?
That's not love, that's lust in my book; the wants and desires to ravage someone's behind -- ah, yes, gayness.
lol
I think it's funny, but eh, if that makes me a homophobe too ...then so be it; I love the PC labels for people who don't agree with PC views; bigots; racists; insensitive; homophobes.
To the PC weenies (gay giggle) there's always a term used for others, but THEIR views are always seen as "normal."
Bunch of weirdos.
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Registered: October 15, 2002
Posts: 49
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Cool down people. We aren't all liberals (not that I mean to stereotype).
Personally, I am bisexual, which means, I find girls attractive, as well as guys. I think that gays/lesbians/whatever have the right to everything straight people do. Just because they are different doesn't mean they are any more stupid, wrong or dirty than we are.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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label me what you will, but not being turned on by guys butts, doesn't in my book make me homophobic...it makes me not gay! and yes, guys butts make me ill...sorry, I'm such a big homophobe now!!! and of course I don't find lesbians disgusting, I am a guy...I like girls....so what part of this is making me a homophobe.....errr quote: So, based on your hormones, the homosexuals that don't arouse you are stupid, disgusting, wrong, etc.? Hmm.
based on you putting words in my mouth, I never said that...sorry
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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Well, that means you're a homophobic, Billy. Not exactly something to be proud of. You basically stated that the homosexuals who "turn you on" (e.g. lesbians) are okay with you because you don't find it disgusting. But the male homosexuals do disgust you? So, based on your hormones, the homosexuals that don't arouse you are stupid, disgusting, wrong, etc.? Hmm.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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ok...how can I put this, what I do hate about gay people is when they have to be all fruity and parade around screaming and yelling "LOOK I'M GAY", yeah ok great...LOOK I LIKE GIRLS! It's lame get over your gayness already. As a male I have particular problem with other gay males, I used to be a big homophobe, but have gotten over it. I have gay or bi-sexual friends and it isn't the person that makes me ill, it's getting turned on by another man's butt...BLAH! I don't get it...I never will. As a male I have less of a problem with Lesbians, especially hot ones, to me that's the makings of an extra ordinary night!  Lets face it, 2 hot girls together isn't exactly going to turn many guys off! I do have a problem with the self loathing man hating Lesbians, please give me a break...I can't help I am a man who wasn't born in a woman's body. I pretty much have a problem with anyone who has to get in my face about stuff, ya' know I probably wouldn't even notice or care about you if you didn't have to start acting up. (see about fruity parading above).
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Registered: March 30, 2003
Posts: 514
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Honestly, I consider it wrong. But hey, it's their lives, so whatever. And about gays/lesbians adopting...I just wanna say can you imagine being their adopted kid? What would you say to your friends? "This is my mommy and my other mommy"? I think that that situation would cause extreme embarrassment to the adopted child. I don't think they should adopt.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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Congratulations, Joey. You just gave a whole new meaning to the word shallow. quote: But what gays do is, in my opinion, sickening. Ram-rodding someone's behind (two males) is um, not what I consider ...in good taste.
I have a solution: don't watch people (both heterosexual AND homosexual) have anal sex, and don't participate in it. Solved that problem fairly quickly, eh? quote: And if gays want to adopt, I'm sorry, but that's out of the question.
Word to the wise, Joey: Never EVER reproduce. Everything else you said has been discarded, therefore discrediting you of any possible intelligence in future posts.
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Registered: March 22, 2003
Posts: 71
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quote: Anyway, gay people as gay people don't bother me
mind clarifying exactly what that means, cause your whole post was basically about you hating everything gay people do.
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Registered: April 15, 2003
Posts: 2
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I have nothing against gay people. The only thing is, is that I don't feel comfortable around them. But other then that I find nothing wrong with it.
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<JoeyDauben>
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Aren't there like, 308 different topics on this already? Sigh. Anyway, gay people as gay people don't bother me. I have a couple of friends who are gay, but I rarely ever see them (mainly because of work, my own life; not like I needed to explain this) But what gays do is, in my opinion, sickening. Ram-rodding someone's behind (two males) is um, not what I consider ...in good taste. Talking like a woman, while being a man, is not um, very man-like lol. It actually makes me laugh. Women shaving their hair and wearing men's clothes makes me laugh as well. The thought of seeing two chics go at it, at one time, did interest me - I'm not going to lie, I was one of those hormone-filled teenagers, too. But now, the thought of (especially hot) girls kissing and rubbing each other makes me sick. Why waste a fine girl like that on another stinkin' girl? It's like the girl's arguments for "hot" gay guys; why waste your time beating at someone's rear end when you could be having a HOT girlfriend or something? Eh, that's my rant; as far as morality, what's between them and God is between them and God. I don't decide who does or doesn't go to Hell, but according to the Bible, gays and lesbians who don't repent will. And if gays want to adopt, I'm sorry, but that's out of the question. If gays want to join a private organization despite that organization's stance against them, then, nope, sorry, that's out of the question, too. This was real long, but hey, the question was asked, and an answer was given. http://www.joeydauben.com
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