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Picture of carpetrug01
Registered: September 14, 2005
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Originally posted by DrStrangelove:
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And my friend has an electrolysis which changes water into hydrogen and oxygen (dont ask me why, i dont even know) it runs on low battery power and produces lots of hydrogen and oxygen gas.


But NOT enough hydrogen to make up for the energy it takes to split the molecule.


well it would have like 6 car batteries, this would be a huge suv much bigger than a hummer btw, its my plan anyways. So you could get an extra reactive one.
it all comes down to would you rather fill your tank with gas, or water.
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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That "smoking causes stupidity" story is, in my opinion, a load of crap that doesn't prove anything.

Firstly, well over half thier subjects were alcoholics which is a HUGE factor in this equation. Secondly, this is only one study showing a *slight* (and statistically insignifigant) increase in loss of mental capacity. The body of test subjects were too small, there was no control, and the results were very, very slight. That gives this connection the big scientific two thumbs down.

Come on Slew, when the hell are you going to stop buying into half-assed science?


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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daveman returns for his drug promotion...


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Registered: March 09, 2004
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That article says smoking makes you stupid in the lonbg run, but the imediate effect is improved brain functioning. So its a trade off.
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That's pretty funny Slew. Good one! Smile


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Registered: December 14, 2003
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Smoking makes you stupid too: http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/33149/story.htm

danceintherain, have you sent your friends the Truth website (which is listed at the top of this thread)? Other than that, perhaps this website can give you some tips (although I hate providing the website of an evil corporation) : http://www.philipmorrisusa.com
And if they care about animals, show them this site: http://www.smokinganimals.com
Good luck.


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Registered: July 29, 2005
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I very much agree that smoking is bad and unfortunetly some of my newer friends do smoke (not around me though) and I very much would like them to stop because I feel bad that when they get old they will die from horrible deaths like my grandfather who smoked constantly and died of cancer. Is there any way I could get them to stop. I have tried to get people to stop smoking before and they haven't. I too wish that smoking was illegal, althoug that wouldn't stop many people from smoking just like outlawing alcohol didn't stop people from drinking.
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And my friend has an electrolysis which changes water into hydrogen and oxygen (dont ask me why, i dont even know) it runs on low battery power and produces lots of hydrogen and oxygen gas.


But NOT enough hydrogen to make up for the energy it takes to split the molecule.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: September 14, 2005
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My oil post isint stupid, it is very important if we ever want to be non-dependant on fossil fuels. hydrogen powered cars are the only way out of it.

as you may or may not now, hydrogen is very explosive, and oxygen is very flameable. So why not use these as gas to power cars! Ps. its waste product is water when you burn it.

This is how it would work:
you put pure water into the tank
this water goes to an electrolysis (which sepirates the water molecules (two hydrogen and one oxygen)
from there, the gas goes into the engine and combusts to drive the car and emits only water vapor as its fuel.

Imagine filling your car up with water. ofcourse it would need to be distilled, but if the car was large enough (and im talking big suv's would have this type of engine, like the size of a hummer) then maybe you could put a water distiller into the car, so providing that your water isint wayyy too high mineral content you could just fill up a bucket of water, and put it in the tank.

And my friend has an electrolysis which changes water into hydrogen and oxygen (dont ask me why, i dont even know) it runs on low battery power and produces lots of hydrogen and oxygen gas.

Water is easily sepirated into hydrogen and oxygen too, all you need is electrisity and platnum wire mesh. when water passes through the metal mesh while being zapped with electrisity, it changes into gas.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Oh yeah, between this and that stupid oil post I think I've lost just about every shread of respect I had.


Did you see the one about her giving her customer an attitude where she works? It's under Randomosity "WHY I GOT FIRED FROM STOPNSHOP" which, by the way, she didn't. Drama queen.


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Registered: June 27, 2005
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Originally posted by calcoastsurfer:
How do you feel about smoking? Do you do it? Do you think its cool or not care about doing it or not?


Preach the good word! Eek Smoking is bad! Second hand smoking kills!
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Registered: February 27, 2003
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Originally posted by freedomordeath:
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Im 16 and i smoke and so do my friends. Its pretty cool... its a fun game trying to get them and all. Just so adventerous. i smoke newport because their cool. Camels smell horrible


You are definitely an idiot. It's been confirmed.

Oh yeah, between this and that stupid oil post I think I've lost just about every shread of respect I had.

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Reports of SHS (second-hand smoke) causing death are greatly exaggerated.

As for it killing the smoker, well, that's nothing new. I've said it before and I'll say it again: if you know the risks and still smoke, you deserve to die a horribly excruciating death from emphysema or lung cancer.

Good day.

True, it doesn't kill that many SHS but it does kill some and it creates all sorts of health problems for SHS, which is not right.

It seems to me that the only reason smoking is legal is because of the huge profits the tobacco industry makes and the fact that it's been accepted for so long. If we had just discovered tobacco I think it would probably be illegal, just like pot and such.

BTW, I love that signature of yours clpo, you find the best quotes....


"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: November 27, 2004
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Originally posted by carpetrug01:
Im 16 and i smoke and so do my friends. Its pretty cool... its a fun game trying to get them and all. Just so adventerous. i smoke newport because their cool. Camels smell horrible


that's pathetic.


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Im 16 and i smoke and so do my friends. Its pretty cool... its a fun game trying to get them and all. Just so adventerous. i smoke newport because their cool. Camels smell horrible


You are definitely an idiot. It's been confirmed.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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No, think about it, not only does it kill the people who actually smoke BUT it also kills people who NEVER SMOKED A DAY IN THEIR LIFE! Now, how is that fair? It's not.


Reports of SHS (second-hand smoke) causing death are greatly exaggerated.

As for it killing the smoker, well, that's nothing new. I've said it before and I'll say it again: if you know the risks and still smoke, you deserve to die a horribly excruciating death from emphysema or lung cancer.

Good day.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: September 14, 2005
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Im 16 and i smoke and so do my friends. Its pretty cool... its a fun game trying to get them and all. Just so adventerous. i smoke newport because their cool. Camels smell horrible
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Personally, I think smoking should be illegal. No, think about it, not only does it kill the people who actually smoke BUT it also kills people who NEVER SMOKED A DAY IN THEIR LIFE! Now, how is that fair? It's not.

So, obviously, I don't smoke. Never have, never will. It stinks, it kills, and it's darn expencive.

"Tobacco is the only legal drug that, when used as directed, causes death."

I think that's how it goes, I haven't read the article in ages but I love that line.


"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: September 16, 2005
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I have never smoked a day in my life. I have breathing problems but that has nothing to do with why I haven't. August 29th was a year ago that my grandfather passed away. He died of lung cancer.He also had 3 other kinds of cancer that were also caused from smoking. He smoked for a while. He smoked for 46 years. 2 weeks before he died he was standing on the front porch of a funeral home for his sister-in-laws funeral. 2 weeks later he was in the funeral home dead. So I have no desire to smoke. Never have and never will.


Emily
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Registered: January 03, 2005
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i went to the death clock site. I think it is not the greatest thing around, I mean when I said I was a non-smoker it said 2063 and for smoker it said the same date and year. It doesn't make much sense.


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Registered: April 23, 2005
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smoking KILLS


I'm counting on it.

(If you're not laughing, you need to loosen up and rent Saved!)


I love that movie! I was just watching it.

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actually calcoastersurfer you are wronge!!
how do you no when you are going to die?
so by smoking a cigarette shortens your life by 7 to 11 minutes wheer did you find that out?becuase you could walk outside and get ran over and die so your going to die any way i say "smoke on" and live your life to the full


My grandmother thought that and she's dead now. So did my god mother. She has Emphysema. My dad did too. He died 11 years ago.

My friend was in a huge car accident two years ago. She survived. I know a girl who was run over by three cars. She's alive.

Apparently, smoking does more harm than cars do.


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