there are many therapies for homosexuals that want to change....

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Originally posted by yogore:

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Yes this is true God does love the homosexuals.. infact he loves everyone... but this doesnt mean that he agrees with their actions.. you can not use that as evidence to support this....

If we assume for one moment that homosexuality is a sin, God will forgive this and still let people into heaven. He says that all sins are equal in the first place, so telling a white lie = homosexuality.

This is very true God will forgive you of you homosexuality.. If you first admit your sin to God and try to change your ways.....God doesnt just assume that you are sorry for your actions unless thats how you truly feel deep down in your heart....So if a Gay asks God for forgiveness he shall get forgiveness but if not this will be held against him when the final judging comes.. tell me if im wrong...

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Yes this is true God does love the homosexuals.. infact he loves everyone... but this doesnt mean that he agrees with their actions.. you can not use that as evidence to support this....

If we assume for one moment that homosexuality is a sin, God will forgive this and still let people into heaven. He says that all sins are equal in the first place, so telling a white lie = homosexuality.

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god loves all the homosexuals that believe in him. and the homosexuals who do not?

Yes this is true God does love the homosexuals.. infact he loves everyone... but this doesnt mean that he agrees with their actions.. you can not use that as evidence to support this....

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THATS BULL AND U KNO IT....

Ohh you've proved it.... by completely ignoring every post that proves you wrong.

it is indeed not bull, and i do know that.

besides, it doesn't matter if god agrees with homosexuality. that only matters if you're a homosexual and a christian, catholic, etc. as i said earlier. if you're not one of those things, be gay to your heart's content.

god loves all the homosexuals that believe in him. and the homosexuals who do not? he is not applicable to them.

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Originally posted by Kal2390:
because the bible agrees with homosexuality. and more importantly, god agrees with it.

THATS BULL AND U KNO IT....

because the bible agrees with homosexuality. and more importantly, god agrees with it.

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and it is perfectly reasonable for one to be a christian and a homosexual.

How can u say this when in another page u told me that u agree with the bible... if u do then dont be a hypocrite live to what it says about homosexuality... read the other threads again.. have u NOT picked up any thing on the discussions......????? about homosexuality not entering the kingdom of God.. Inheriting the kingdom....????? check it out

no homosexual needs your approval or acceptance to be a homosexual. if they're a christian, catholic, or otherwise, god approves. if they do not believe in god, then they can do whatever they want anyway.

and it is perfectly reasonable for one to be a christian and a homosexual.

KAL...

Pretty sure that u used other words to accuse me of being a hypocrite and of saying that i will go to hell...

For the record when i say God is the only one who can i judge thats what i meant.. u read to much into what i DIDNT say as to of what i did say...and i am not saying that i am all up there and holy but i do not approve of homosexualty... so urr saying that u can agree with this concept of gays but yet i cant disagree....

I do not spread hate of fellow human beings but i think that they should know what the bible says if they claim to be a christian and a homosexual at the same time...

its like an oxymoron

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if the quote "inherit God's kingdom" doesnt mean heaven tell me what exactly it means

It does mean heaven, but you're assuming that if one doesn't get into heaven, the only other outcome is hell. But that's not necessarily true.

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Originally posted by Joel135:
Meaning that u dont get into heaven by just being nice and contributing to the world around u u must beleive in God... And if u truly beleive in God then u SHALL BE SAVED...

and believing in god has nothing to do with being homosexual.

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HOW DARE U EVER TELL ME THAT I WILL GO TO HELL.... HOW DARE U... urr the one who agreed with me that only God can judge.. so now urr telling me that because i dont beleive what u beleive i will go to HELL.. WHOS THE HYPOCRITE NOW????

see, the thing is i never said that. so stop being so paranoid. i didn't imply you were a bigoted, hateful homophobe, but you've now just admitted it. only god can judge, and I think you're in for a rude surprise if you believe spreading hatred of fellow human beings is gonna get you the golden key.

as for messages for condemnation, allow me to quote:

"The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision."

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check this verse out and tell me what it says to u 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 says:

Prove that the Bible is gods word. you can't. I know what i'm talking about. i've been around for a while.

you can use the Bible as justifications for your thoughts, but first you must justify how the Bible is a crediable source. The bible is a document that was written down many years ago. years after the events theoretuically happened. Furthermore, it has been translated and eferyone knows that words are mixed up in translations.

prove to me that it is crediable. You simply cannot.

hello wake up... if the quote "inherit God's kingdom" doesnt mean heaven tell me what exactly it means and even though the bible does contain messages of love and equality it also has messages of condemnation and warning signs.. i am just alerting them of there choices NOT condeming them.. As i said before i am not the judge when it is all said and done.. it is God who shall be the judge in the end.

Indeed. But what if I don't see the Bible as perfectly true? As Kal said on another board, the Bible should not be used as a tool for condemnation but instead read for it's message of love and equality.

Sure, the Bible may say men that lie with men will not inherit the kingdom of God, but does that give you the right to tell them they're going to hell? The verse doesn't even say that. It says that they won't "inherit God's kingdom," not that they'll be eternally punished in a pit of fire.

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so now urr telling me that because i dont beleive what u beleive i will go to HELL.. WHOS THE HYPOCRITE NOW????

How hypocritical of you to tell us that we'll go to hell for not believing what you believe.

I hope you get my drift.

I didnt say that u are going to hell because of what u beleive what i put on that post was from the bible....... NOT OF MY OWN WORDS... therefore i am not being hypocritical...

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so now urr telling me that because i dont beleive what u beleive i will go to HELL.. WHOS THE HYPOCRITE NOW????

How hypocritical of you to tell us that we'll go to hell for not believing what you believe.

I hope you get my drift.

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Prove it.

YOGORE

check this verse out and tell me what it says to u 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 says:

"Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom.".....

It clearly says that no man should lie with another man... ( GOD CREATED ADAM FOR EVE NOT STEVE) hows that for proof

Kal..

First of all you dont get into heaven by works... havent u read the verse Ephesians 2:8-9 8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do................

Meaning that u dont get into heaven by just being nice and contributing to the world around u u must beleive in God... And if u truly beleive in God then u SHALL BE SAVED... HOW DARE U EVER TELL ME THAT I WILL GO TO HELL.... HOW DARE U... urr the one who agreed with me that only God can judge.. so now urr telling me that because i dont beleive what u beleive i will go to HELL.. WHOS THE HYPOCRITE NOW????