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If it is indeed a brain/hormone/pheramone disorder, which I beleive it is, that means it can be treated.

Why treat it? Seriously, why? You treat depression, bipolarism, schizophreia, etc because it interfears with normal life. Why would you "treat" homosexuality when it has no negative effects?

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you shouldn't feel any more insulted for being diagnosed with bipolarity than someone who is diagnosed with a disorder that leads to homosexual behavior and emotions.

you are viewing homosexuality in the wrong light. It doesn't fall under dictionary.com's definition of a disorder:

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dis·or·der
n.
A lack of order or regular arrangement; confusion.
A breach of civic order or peace; a public disturbance.
An ailment that affects the function of mind or body:

Homosexuality in noway interfears with the function of the body or the mind, so cannot be considered a disorder.

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I slightly believe it can be hereditary, as my very-into-gender-bias family has a lot of gays...out of nowhere.

I think it may be hereditary in some cases. Not all though, I think there are many factors.

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Ones caused by chemical biology and not environmental conditioning are likely to have some sort of a treatment.

There are many things that have no "cure" even though they have a biological cause.

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Actually, though, if it IS a chemical imbalance, the odds are that it can be "cured".

I agree, but last I heard, it was being theorized that it's caused by the size of neurons in the brain.

We are not animals. I don't think homosexuality is unnatural or any such nonsense. But the animal kingdom argument is a little off base I find. I don't like using it when defending carnivorism, and I don't like using it when defending sexuality. We have knowledge that makes us better than animals. When you use the animal argument you are allowing anti-gay types to classify you as acting like animals.

My point was that bi-polar disorder, depression, etc. are mental disorders caused by genetics and/or imbalances, and therefore are equal to homosexuality if it indeed turns out to be caused by those factors. Being bi-polar is a disorder, and possibly, there is a disorder that causes homosexual behavior.

So I was telling you that essentially, you shouldn't feel any more insulted for being diagnosed with bipolarity than someone who is diagnosed with a disorder that leads to homosexual behavior and emotions.

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Actually a disorder is something that is medically wrong with someone. Like Bi-polar disorder or Borderline Personality disorder. Honestly, I would condsider homosexuality being called a disorder insulting.

I'm sure the bi-polars feel the same way. The fact is that mental disorders are frequently caused by hormonal or chemical imbalances. There is mounting evidence that homosexuality is a condition created by those factors. It most likely is a disorder, and if you take insult to that, that's your own problem. Medical science shouldn't try and sugar coat the findings.

I'll tell you what, proving homosexuality is a disorder and not a choice will go a long way in helping people accept it.

I'm Bi-Polar. Now what exactly are you trying to tell me I feel?

I slightly believe it can be hereditary, as my very-into-gender-bias family has a lot of gays...out of nowhere.

If you ask me, I think homosexuality is hereditary. Of course, it would be a recessive gene, with heterosexuality being the dominant. But that's just my opinion. No more proof than the chemical imbalance or Satan-controlled theories.

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Mental disorders, some of them, have no cure. Not even a treatement.

Ones caused by chemical biology and not environmental conditioning are likely to have some sort of a treatment. This is the direction it seems to be going in. Point being, we don't know that much about it, and I'm afraid many people will write it off for political reasons rather than scientific ones.

Mental disorders, some of them, have no cure. Not even a treatement.

Actually, though, if it IS a chemical imbalance, the odds are that it can be "cured".

I know this idea is really offensive to a lot of people, and I've been called all sorts of slurs for making that statment. I'm only calling it as I see it though. If it is indeed a brain/hormone/pheramone disorder, which I beleive it is, that means it can be treated. Are we supposed to ignore something like that because it doesn't mesh with the what other people think?

And people are forced to accept disorders under legislation protecting the handicapped.

This is a sticky subject because people have become so emotionally connected to it. Keep an open mind.

But nobody "accepts" disorders. Making homosexuality a disorder will only make people delusional into thinking there's a "cure" or a medication you can take to stop it.

If it becomes accepted as a disorder, it's a completely irreversible and incurable one. THAT distinction needs to be made.

Homosexuality is not normal, but it is natural, by psychological definition.

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Actually a disorder is something that is medically wrong with someone. Like Bi-polar disorder or Borderline Personality disorder. Honestly, I would condsider homosexuality being called a disorder insulting.

I'm sure the bi-polars feel the same way. The fact is that mental disorders are frequently caused by hormonal or chemical imbalances. There is mounting evidence that homosexuality is a condition created by those factors. It most likely is a disorder, and if you take insult to that, that's your own problem. Medical science shouldn't try and sugar coat the findings.

I'll tell you what, proving homosexuality is a disorder and not a choice will go a long way in helping people accept it.

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That really bothers me calling homosexuality a 'disorder', like there is actually something wrong with gay people.

This is not meant as an insult, but stupidity is a disorder as well. A disorder is really just something that differs from the norm, be it an actual sickness or homosexuality. It's not meant to say, "Homosexuality is a disorder, thus it's wrong." Homosexuality is just "not normal" according to society's definition of homosexuality. Whether you agree with that sentiment or not doesn't change a thing. Society is, as a whole, pretty darn stupid.

Actually a disorder is something that is medically wrong with someone. Like Bi-polar disorder or Borderline Personality disorder. Honestly, I would condsider homosexuality being called a disorder insulting.

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That really bothers me calling homosexuality a 'disorder', like there is actually something wrong with gay people.

This is not meant as an insult, but stupidity is a disorder as well. A disorder is really just something that differs from the norm, be it an actual sickness or homosexuality. It's not meant to say, "Homosexuality is a disorder, thus it's wrong." Homosexuality is just "not normal" according to society's definition of homosexuality. Whether you agree with that sentiment or not doesn't change a thing. Society is, as a whole, pretty darn stupid.

well like GRACIOULYME i have no idea weather u are 4 or against homosexuality now im not a lesbian or anything but i know that gay or not it doesnt really matter aND IT shouldnt matter to u that this is going on in the world cuz frankly i do believe that this is NOT effecting u in any way so just dont judge ppl and there sexuality and if u r homosexual than dont let anybody tell u other wise u r u and thats what it is and if they cant except that u shouldnt have them around u cuz there not worth having as friends or anything else!!!!
thanx hope not to offend any 1 this is just my opinion!!!

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What we do know is that there is mounting evidence that homosexuality has something to do with disorders in the way the person reacts to sex pheramones and other hormones. The scary (and in a way interesting) implication of that is that homosexuality can be "cured" by modern medicine.

That really bothers me calling homosexuality a 'disorder', like there is actually something wrong with gay people. I understand the medical evidence and all that, but could we please not call it a disorder? If you told the entire nation that, gay people would be treated as if they had leprosy by most.

Yo u cant change the way people love other people in ways.

How's about this? Homosexuality is an uncommon, but not rare, disorder. It's not "normal" but it's not a sin, as I don't really believe in sin as most people know it. However, it is not the biological norm of our species. We're the only ones that we know can feel some sense of romantic love, and as such we can't really compare the animal world. What we do know is that there is mounting evidence that homosexuality has something to do with disorders in the way the person reacts to sex pheramones and other hormones. The scary (and in a way interesting) implication of that is that homosexuality can be "cured" by modern medicine.

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For Goodness sakes, bees have be document to have "life partners" rather than mates.

This statement truely makes me question whether that list is actual homosexual behavior (sexual attraction to members of the opposite sex), or two members of the same sex acting together in a nuturing manner. The latter is not the definition of homosexuality.

wait so are you for or against homosexuality? mind your words, im a lesbian