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Picture of DrStrangelove
Registered: March 13, 2002
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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
Mental disorders, some of them, have no cure. Not even a treatement.


Ones caused by chemical biology and not environmental conditioning are likely to have some sort of a treatment. This is the direction it seems to be going in. Point being, we don't know that much about it, and I'm afraid many people will write it off for political reasons rather than scientific ones.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Mental disorders, some of them, have no cure. Not even a treatement.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Actually, though, if it IS a chemical imbalance, the odds are that it can be "cured".

I know this idea is really offensive to a lot of people, and I've been called all sorts of slurs for making that statment. I'm only calling it as I see it though. If it is indeed a brain/hormone/pheramone disorder, which I beleive it is, that means it can be treated. Are we supposed to ignore something like that because it doesn't mesh with the what other people think?

And people are forced to accept disorders under legislation protecting the handicapped.

This is a sticky subject because people have become so emotionally connected to it. Keep an open mind.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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But nobody "accepts" disorders. Making homosexuality a disorder will only make people delusional into thinking there's a "cure" or a medication you can take to stop it.

If it becomes accepted as a disorder, it's a completely irreversible and incurable one. THAT distinction needs to be made.

Homosexuality is not normal, but it is natural, by psychological definition.


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Actually a disorder is something that is medically wrong with someone. Like Bi-polar disorder or Borderline Personality disorder. Honestly, I would condsider homosexuality being called a disorder insulting.


I'm sure the bi-polars feel the same way. The fact is that mental disorders are frequently caused by hormonal or chemical imbalances. There is mounting evidence that homosexuality is a condition created by those factors. It most likely is a disorder, and if you take insult to that, that's your own problem. Medical science shouldn't try and sugar coat the findings.

I'll tell you what, proving homosexuality is a disorder and not a choice will go a long way in helping people accept it.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: September 21, 2005
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That really bothers me calling homosexuality a 'disorder', like there is actually something wrong with gay people.


This is not meant as an insult, but stupidity is a disorder as well. A disorder is really just something that differs from the norm, be it an actual sickness or homosexuality. It's not meant to say, "Homosexuality is a disorder, thus it's wrong." Homosexuality is just "not normal" according to society's definition of homosexuality. Whether you agree with that sentiment or not doesn't change a thing. Society is, as a whole, pretty darn stupid.


Actually a disorder is something that is medically wrong with someone. Like Bi-polar disorder or Borderline Personality disorder. Honestly, I would condsider homosexuality being called a disorder insulting.


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That really bothers me calling homosexuality a 'disorder', like there is actually something wrong with gay people.


This is not meant as an insult, but stupidity is a disorder as well. A disorder is really just something that differs from the norm, be it an actual sickness or homosexuality. It's not meant to say, "Homosexuality is a disorder, thus it's wrong." Homosexuality is just "not normal" according to society's definition of homosexuality. Whether you agree with that sentiment or not doesn't change a thing. Society is, as a whole, pretty darn stupid.


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well like GRACIOULYME i have no idea weather u are 4 or against homosexuality now im not a lesbian or anything but i know that gay or not it doesnt really matter aND IT shouldnt matter to u that this is going on in the world cuz frankly i do believe that this is NOT effecting u in any way so just dont judge ppl and there sexuality and if u r homosexual than dont let anybody tell u other wise u r u and thats what it is and if they cant except that u shouldnt have them around u cuz there not worth having as friends or anything else!!!!
thanx hope not to offend any 1 this is just my opinion!!!
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Originally posted by DrStrangelove:
What we do know is that there is mounting evidence that homosexuality has something to do with disorders in the way the person reacts to sex pheramones and other hormones. The scary (and in a way interesting) implication of that is that homosexuality can be "cured" by modern medicine.



That really bothers me calling homosexuality a 'disorder', like there is actually something wrong with gay people. I understand the medical evidence and all that, but could we please not call it a disorder? If you told the entire nation that, gay people would be treated as if they had leprosy by most.


*This is what we do. We fight. You tell me when I'm being an arrogant son of a b*itch and I tell you when your being a pain in the a*s. Which you are. 99% of the time. I aint afraid to hurt your feelings. You have like a two second rebound rate and then your off doing the next pain in the a*s thing.
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Yo u cant change the way people love other people in ways.


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How's about this? Homosexuality is an uncommon, but not rare, disorder. It's not "normal" but it's not a sin, as I don't really believe in sin as most people know it. However, it is not the biological norm of our species. We're the only ones that we know can feel some sense of romantic love, and as such we can't really compare the animal world. What we do know is that there is mounting evidence that homosexuality has something to do with disorders in the way the person reacts to sex pheramones and other hormones. The scary (and in a way interesting) implication of that is that homosexuality can be "cured" by modern medicine.

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For Goodness sakes, bees have be document to have "life partners" rather than mates.


This statement truely makes me question whether that list is actual homosexual behavior (sexual attraction to members of the opposite sex), or two members of the same sex acting together in a nuturing manner. The latter is not the definition of homosexuality.


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Registered: September 15, 2005
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wait so are you for or against homosexuality? mind your words, im a lesbian
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