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<JoeyDauben>
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I love being a reporter, I get to find out things that nobody knows about or won't know about until the news comes on.

But who here has a mental health problem, like say bipolar disorder or obsessive compulsive disorder?

Anyone with (real) Attention Deficit Disorder?

Well, if you don't, you're about to find out.

Thanks to federal legislation passed two weeks ago, those in public schools - and eventually everywhere - will have to go under socialist mental health screening, which you know will be the advent of putting more kids back on Ritalin and other suicide-causing anti-depressants.

Isn't that always the case? If it's some sort of disease or whatever, drug them. Drug them all.

This, folks, is the last straw. It is now time for parents, guardians and loved ones to begin the mass withdrawal of their children from government-run schools.

This federal legislation goes after the schools first, and eventually, it will go after anyone with a job at a company with more than 50 employees or who works for a government of some sort.

Parents have no rights whatsoever in any of these above mentioned situations. Individual rights are being sacrificed thanks to the "wonders of socialism."

Yes, I'm going after the socialists who either call themselves Republicans or Democrats, communists or fascists.

The main problem with all of this is that it makes eeeeeeeveryone the same. Conform or get drugged, it's that simple.



Just pull out now before your kid ends up killing him or herself.

http://www.ntimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=1209
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Registered: March 02, 2003
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I'm so sick of hearing that America is over-medicated. Maybe it is, but I shouldn't have to get a lecture about how the burning in my throat is really in my head every time I take my acid reflux medicine.


When the president talks to god are the conversations brief or long? Does he ask to rape our women's rights and send more farm kids off to die? Does God suggest an oil hike when the president talks to god?
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Registered: March 08, 2004
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Oy, more Dauben-style scare tactics. Look, I'll admit I don't know the specifics of this legislation, but I'm willing to bet all it requires children to do is get tested for mental illnesses, which I personally believe has the potential to be very helpful. They will not force drugs down kids' throats; if they were, we would be already be hearing loud and harsh objections from more sane people.

Now, to point out the untruths and leaps of logic in your post and article:
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Isn't that always the case? If it's some sort of disease or whatever, drug them. Drug them all.

While it is true that sometimes psychiatrists and physicians are quick to reach for their prescription pads, there are more children today suffering because they are not taking medications that could greatly benefit them than there are children like Clare Parsons. I can say from personal experience that anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications can make all the difference in the world for someone who is suffering. While I agree that these medications should not be prescribed too liberally, I strongly support any piece of legislation that will make it easier for people in need of these medications to access them. From there, if they want to take them, it is their choice.
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This, folks, is the last straw. It is now time for parents, guardians and loved ones to begin the mass withdrawal of their children from government-run schools.

Yes, let's have all the kids who can afford it leave public schools out of fear of the men in the white coats. I don't see how this can possibly further seperate the wealthy from the poor. Roll Eyes
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Parents have no rights whatsoever in any of these above mentioned situations. Individual rights are being sacrificed thanks to the "wonders of socialism."

As I said, the parents will always have the decision not to put their kids on medications. If the legislation says otherwise, it won't (nor should it) pass. I guarantee it.
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The main problem with all of this is that it makes eeeeeeeveryone the same. Conform or get drugged, it's that simple.

Little do you know, no two kids react quite the same way to a good amphetamine rush.
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Just pull out now before your kid ends up killing him or herself.

I'm so sick of hearing stuff like this. SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) have come under fire for making kids more depressed and more likely to commit suicide. In reality, this happens to a very small percentage of users, and it only happens to them when they first go on the medications and their bodies are adjusting to the meds. Often, effective combination-treatment plans can eliminate the risk of new users falling into the suicidal category all-together. For example, if a person's mood took a dip when he/she first went on Prozac, if he/she had a fast-acting prescription like Xanax or Seroquel ready, it could take the edge off the process of the body adjusting to the artificial serotonin. After a couple of weeks, the Prozac-user would be off the other drug and in a better place than when he/she started. And remember, this is the worst case scenario that affects only a small percentage of users.
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Clare Parsons, a Waxahachie High School student, said the medication doctors have prescribed for her “learning disabilities” gets old after a while.

“Do you know how horrible it is?” she said. “It’s killing me slowly, but it makes [mom] feel better. Some people feel better knowing they’re ‘fixing’ the problem. I get used to the dosage of medication I’m on, so my body becomes immune to that.

“It’s been three years of hell,” she said. “Having to go through being sick to your stomach for two weeks, getting used to the new, higher dosage. My eyes are dilated all the time because of it. I look like I’m high all the time.”

This is simply ridiculous. This girl is clearly on medications that are having a bad reaction to her body. In a situation like this, she and her mother should explore other medications that would not create these same negative side effects. I assure you, stomachaches and dilated pupils are not the norm; they're the medication-induced equivalent of an allergic reaction. If her mother is refusing to let her go off the medications, as you suggest, then that is an example of poor parenting, not a case against the medications themselves. By that logic, we should outlaw cars, because although they help hundreds of millions of people get where they need to go faster, some people just have no idea how to use them.


And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Well, I am an insomniac


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
<JoeyDauben>
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I don't think you people realize the true effects of this legislation.

It will require either your parents or school to determine (via a doctor) if you have a mental illness of some sort.

We can safely assume the number one treatment for this will be a drug of some sort.
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Registered: April 15, 2003
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Good thing you got through there before the legislation was passed, eh?


Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. Frederick Douglass
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