hi,
I agree that a woman can do what she wants to her own body. But a baby is not her body. It has it's own heart, it's own brain, it's own DNA. The mother merely carries the child until it is ready to face the world. A baby's heart starts beating 24 days after conception and the baby can feel pain. I teach a Sunday School class and love those kids I can not imagine if someone had decided that they didn't want the burden of a child that these kids would not have had a chance. I am a firm believer in adoption and plan not only to adopt in the future but also to become a certified foster parent when I turn 21.
Trinity

OK, here it is, out in the open, loud and clear I AM PRO CHOICE!! and I dont care if you're pro choice or pro life! because im not pro abortion, im pro CHOICE. meaning i think everybody should have the right to choose! you cant have one rule for everybody. nobody is forcing anybody to get an abortion, its simply an option. a doctor can suggest it and the mother can refuse, or the mother can request it and the doctor can refuse to perform the surgery, PROVIDING they can refer the patient to a reputable and trustworthy surgeon who is willing to perform it. Mabey its my religous background, being jewish i was always taught that we are a special group of people selected by God to recieve His laws, and others are welcome to join us but we should not force them, and i know that many christian denominations are big on recruiting people towards their religion, so it makes sense that they should carry that principal into other aspects of their lives. but when you think about it, what i do with my body is none of your buisness, and visa versa. not pro ABORTION, pro CHOICE!

excuse me, JoeyDauben did you just say that a woman doesnt have the right to decide what happens to her body?

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One of the Ten Commandments laid down by God Himself says "Thou shall not murder." That's right in the Bible, and all of the Bible is God's word. So unless it is punishing a murderer, it is always wrong to kill somebody, according to Our Creator, and Our Creator should be listened to above anything that you or I have to say, because Our Creator (God) knows best. If He says we shouldn't murder anybody, I KNOW that we all ought to listen, and keep those babies alive! God bless you

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That's sweet, that you read only what you want in the bible. Because the bible considers a life ONLY AFTER BIRTH. A pregnant woman gettign beaten is a cause in the bible; if the fetus dies and she doesn't it's not a tragedy because it isn't considered a life yet. If she dies, EVEN IF THE FETUS LIVES, it's considered a tragedy. And I've got a bible test on this tomorrow, so I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about. So if you're going to blame the bible for your anti-choice views, at least do it right.

Where do you draw the line? If I take birth control regularly every day to keep from getting pregnant is that wrong? Now if instead of taking the pill every day, what if I decided to take the morning after pill every time after I had sex? This would be wrong in the eyes of a lot of people who think birth control is okay and I just want to know what you all think...when does it become a life? Is there an hour limit? What is wrong with aborting a multi-celled organism that is only seconds, minutes, days, weeks old?

I struggle sometimes with whether or not I consider a fetus a person with rights. But at the end of the day, I always come to the same conclusion: I will always put the life and well-being and rights of a developed and cognizant human person ahead of those of a developing embryo, which might admittedly be full of future promise, but is essentially devoid of human characteristics--emotion, humanity, expression, experience--that are just not a part of pre-natal development.

One of the Ten Commandments laid down by God Himself says "Thou shall not murder." That's right in the Bible, and all of the Bible is God's word. So unless it is punishing a murderer, it is always wrong to kill somebody, according to Our Creator, and Our Creator should be listened to above anything that you or I have to say, because Our Creator (God) knows best. If He says we shouldn't murder anybody, I KNOW that we all ought to listen, and keep those babies alive! God bless you.

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If I'm ever elected state representative (in Texas), I'm going to introduce a law that would illegalize abortions in this state and if caught doing it, women violators would be sentenced to prison.

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Yet Texas kills tons of criminals on death row. No one is rotting for that. Anyone who is pro-life should also be anti-death penalty. The death penalty is ok .. and abortion is wrong? Give me a freakin break please.

All this "women have rights to their body" crap is just that - crap.

Americans don't have the right to do anything; can't pray in school, can't keep your money, can't walk around in public nude - I mean, give me a freakin' break.

If I'm ever elected state representative (in Texas), I'm going to introduce a law that would illegalize abortions in this state and if caught doing it, women violators would be sentenced to prison.

It's just that simple; you kill, you rot.

Actually I can admit it's a person (thought I don't) and still be pro-choice. Even a fully animate and human person still doesn't have a claim to anyone else's body. That's slavery.

You're right---the person who has the ultimate choice is the woman, after all, she can't be legally stopped from going to a clinic by anybody else. Now...why the others you listed in your post should have a say. If it was just the woman's body, then that would be one thing...but its not. ANOTHER BODY IS INVOLVED! The baby's life is at stake...so it's not just the woman's body that is part of this decision. I know that most pro-choicers will argue that the being in the womb is not a real baby...but that is what separates most pro-choicers and pro-lifers. That part of the argument can simply not be resolved.

thank you brooke i totally agree with you!!!

~Jade

Will somebody, anybody, please explain to me how it works that any man, boyfriend, father, priest, politician can tell me what to do with my body!! Please tell me, I'm dying to know!

Let me state once more, I think it's great that there are guys out there who want to be supportive of a pregnancy and want to be fathers and want to be part of the discussion...I gladly acknowledge this. But please tell me how at the end of that discussion the ultimate choice belongs to anyone but the woman carrying the child! Spell it out for me. Explain it to me like I'm five years old, cause I just don't get it. A woman's body is not a democracy, there should be no negoitiation. It is her choice and her choice alone.

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Stopping the baby from dying wont solve its problems, it will give them a life of new ones.

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It will give them a life.

The fact remains that the child is partly his. I’m sorry that your boyfriend chose the irresponsible route, and chose to duck out of his previous promise of being there for you. But just because some guys are like this, doesn’t mean that the sincere, caring fathers should be denied a say in their child’s fate. Not all guys are like your ex.

woo hoo!! i agree with you Jookly 100%

"The thing is, though, that the child is half his...she couldn't have made it without him! So the father's opinion should definitely have a lot of weight if the baby is going to be aborted...even if its not in his body."

really? cuz this seems kinda off. Sept '01 I find out I'm pregnant, again, still not married (big no no in my family) & I say to my boyfriend "Donnie, I don't know if I can do this alone, again!" He said (yes & I quote) "You're not alone. I'm here for you with you & I swear to you I'm not going anywhere!" "But (he says) if you abort this baby, its over between us!" Talk about real luv huh?! Anwayz, april comes around &, at 2 weeks till term, we broke up. 6 days later, beuatiful baby boy, but where's Donnie? He's running, out of state to be accurate!! Do you still think the father has a say? Cause I sure as hell don't! Faula420@earthlink.net

No an abortion is not murder. It isnt alive it isnt breathing, it doesnt think it doesnt move it doesnt blink,eat,or take a ****. It is no different than a rock at the point abortions take place

Abortion is murder!When you have an abortion,you are killing a living thing.It is alive.After becoming an embryo,it starts developing into a human.Just because it's inside a woman doesn't mean that it's not alive and a human being,and you have no right to take a life.
I believe,contrary to Esto,that abortion IS killing millions of lives in a cruel manner.Every day there are hundreds of abortions worldwide.Don't you think that adds up to millions really quick?And,do you know how someone aborts a baby?The doctors cause you to go into labor so it comes out,then they kill it.Don't YOU think that's cruel?
I think that if a woman is going to have an abortion,though,she should seek approval and advice from the father,because after all,he helped create it!

In theory, yes, the baby is "half" the father's I suppose, but in practicality that's just unworkable. If there are two people in the discussion (the mother and father) and the mother wants one thing and the father wants another, how do you suggest democracy prevail? Should the mother carry "half" the baby to term? Speaking of "half" a baby is nonsense--you aren't half one of your parents and half the other, you're a combination. And half of you doesn't belong to one parent and half to the other. "Half" babies don't exist, so let's deal with the issue as it exists in practice:the overwhelming physical and emotional and financial burdens are on the mother and it should therefore be the mother's choice.

Once again, let me reiterate that I think it's great if two people can discuss it together and reach an agreement, but in reality that just isn't always the case. And if there are differing opinions between a pregnant woman and the man who impregnated her, how can you possibly suggest that the man's opinion should be given equal credence when he largely won't bear the burden? And this isn't to say that there aren't guys who would gladly share in the burden of a pregnancy as much as they are able, but they can only assume so much of it. Which is why final decisions on such matter should be the choice of the mother.

I'm not advocating abortion, I'm simply advocating a woman's right to choose what to do with her own body.

Well, of course in the end it will be her choice, unless of course the guy locks her in a closet so she won't go get an abortion or beats her to produce a miscarriage. The thing is, though, that the child is half his...she couldn't have made it without him! So the father's opinion should definitely have a lot of weight if the baby is going to be aborted...even if its not in his body.