quote: Yes, Dante, you host a living person in your household. They may screw up, so you have the right to kick them out. They're a "burden" because of the faults of others.
Not the faults of "others". It's their fault. They are a burden and they are disruptive. You get to kick them out even if they're nice people because it's your house and you aren't obligated to support them. If you do, you're a nice person, but if you don't there is nothing moraly wrong with that. If they later die from exposure or malnutrition, sure you may feel guilty but in no way are you morally or legally guilty of anything.
Abortion, in my opinion, is 100% wrong. Whichever way you view it, it's still murder, regardless of the situation.
Yes, Dante, you host a living person in your household. They may screw up, so you have the right to kick them out. They're a "burden" because of the faults of others.
But we're referring to an unborn child. They haven't screwed up. It's the other way around. But they have no say in their future. Consequences be damned, they still can't speak for themselves.
Personally, I think adoption is wonderful. A large percentage of those children who get adopted had mothers who could not take care of them and didn't abort them.
A few people in my family have had abortions and have later had given birth to other children. According to them, abortion is far more painful then actually giving birth. That's an opinion, and I'll believe them. I personally don't want to experience either anytime soon, heh.
how could you live with yourself after killing an innocent child? I DON'T agree with the woman has control over her body therefore she can kill a living being. If that sounds weird, I don't mean that a woman shouldn't have any control over her body because that's just messed up... what I mean is that baby may be a IN her body but the baby isn't her body. She is hosting a human being.
it may be wrong to some but you know it is a womenns right to choose. if some one ( yourselfs as example) got raped would you want to keep that child and have to look at it everyday and be hurt. cause that would just never heal teh scars.
its not murder. its someson freedom to choose and thats not a bad decsion.
I am against to a point like say some hooch who screws around all the time and keeps not using protection or whatver ans keeps getting aortions then it just wrong cause its a privlage being abused.
But in one case i am only in favor for. is Rape basically cause its a hard issue to deal with.
Abortion isn't a snwer to all our problems. and you know sometimes people make mistakes a relize that the can't have a child right now. I know i wouldn't want to bare a child and then give it up for adoption i wouldn't be able to live with my self with a chold from me out there calling some one else mom cause i couldn't do it.
im not saying that everyone is wrong its my opinion but you know. Women do have the freedom of choise and if they choose abortion. then just let them live and let live their lifes withut ebing a shamed....
Anyone can make up facts. I can say having an abortion makes your body stronger and increases your white blood cells. Why believe me unless I offer a source?
And as for adoption- after all the millions of children already waiting to be adopted are, and world hunger is ended, then maybe I'll agree and say abortion should be illegal. Though I doubt it. Don't like abortions? Don't have one. It's quite simple, really.
and fyi...theres thousands of children who are up for adoption already and most dont get adopted so if you want kids adopt...the world dosnt need anymore unwanted kids
abortions are a females right...if your against them then fine to take the right away from the rest of us...to me the THING is nothing but a bunch of cells, a parasite...who cares, its not your body its not your decition...even if abortions were outlawed we'd still have them so there is nothing you can do about it
posting incorrect information interferes with rational discussions on a topic. if you're going to claim statements as fact, then you should be able to back up your claim. you wouldn't get away with making up facts in a public debate - why should these message boards be any different?
I have been reading all of the replies here and what struck me is that everyone is focusing on bashing people who don't share their opinion. Instead of focusing on where the posters get their info, perhaps we should focus on the issue at large. I do not think there is much question about whether abortion is wrong or not. Pretty much everyone would agree that abortion is a controversial solution to even larger problems such as premarital sex, spousal abuse, ect. I, for one, believe that there are better options to solve these unfortunate situations. I think that mothers who believe they cannot have their child should give it up for adoption because there are so many loving couples who cannot have children of their own.
Now, how is our generation going to solve this problem? It is difficult to place mandates on people in a democracy such as we live in without overstepping personal rights. It is for this reason that I do not think we will ever make abortion illegal. However, I do think that by focusing our efforts on prevention campaigns that focus on waiting for sex we can help others see that sex is not necessary to be popular, which will eliminate some need for abortions. I also think that pro-adoption programs that would support mothers who wish to give up their parental rights provide another avenue for people who think abortion is the best option.
on the one hand, we have medical journals and professionals who see no correlation between breast cancer and abortion. on the other hand, we have you, an annonymous poster on a message board, claiming the opposite. please forgive me for siding with the medical professionals on this issue. if you are so confident in your utterly incorrect claim, then please provide reliable research backing up your claim of abortion increasing chances for breast cancer.
think of this yes abortion is legal so therefore it is right? If the goverment made rape legal would that make it right or what about incest should that be legal and to the dumb**** who said we don't have are facts straight ummm yeah if your are under the age of 18 and have an abortion you are 800% more likely to get breast cancer
quote: most of my information i get off of http://www.abortionfacts.com abortionfacts.com is the most complete collection of abortion information on the web. It is composed of research that SCIENTISTS send in, not opinionated people. It IS fact, if you choose to believe it or not.
Not true. The site is run by the Heritage House (note the icon in the upper left corner), a devoutly christian, pro-life organization. Its Mission Statement: http://www.heritagehouse76.com/mission.asp Hardly neutral or scientific.
For a truly neutral site I reccomend http://www.religioustolerance.org/abortion.htm It provides all sides and information for everyone. It is not run by anyone with an agenda nor is it beholden to a group with a stake in the debate.
quote:abortionfacts.com is the most complete collection of abortion information on the web. It is composed of research that SCIENTISTS send in.
abortionfacts.com is your source? try looking in medical journals like the new england journal of medicine and the journal of american medicine association and you'll see that you are absolutely wrong on this "fact." tell me the journal article that you get this information from.
abortionfacts.com is the most complete collection of abortion information on the web. It is composed of research that SCIENTISTS send in, not opinionated people. It IS fact, if you choose to believe it or not.
quote:having one abortion doubles the chance of breast cancer and women under 18 years of age who have abortions are 800% more likely to have breast cancer
that is patently false. regardless of your correlations to rape and abortion, there is no correlation between abortion and breast cancer. show me the article you got this from, and i'll show you a fake study. the entire medical profession is against you on this "fact."
I would like to know where you got most of your information, because, frankly, I think most of it is a bunch of bull ****. 800% chance??? Doubling the risk? Yeah right. Try 0 increased risk. Check your facts before you post them.
The only choice when considering abortion is between a live baby or a dead baby. If pro-abortionists really believe that "choice" is absolute, then they would have to condone a person's "choice" to rape another person (a second individual is also in the abortion picture), or to use drugs ("I want to control my own body!"). Yet, pregnant women who exercise the "choice" to take drugs are prosecuted, penalized and sometimes incarcerated for harming their preborn children. Rapists are sent to prison. A former abortion-provider confessed that the abortion advocates have lots of laughs over the coining of the word "choice" as it regards abortion, and are amazed that the public bought into that lie. The laugh is on us!
Alive-growing, developing, maturing, and replacing its own dying cells. It means not being dead.
A baby has a heart that is beating 3 weeks after conception.
75% of women who have abortion think about committing suicide
having one abortion doubles the chance of breast cancer and women under 18 years of age who have abortions are 800% more likely to have breast cancer (yeah that does say 800)
In a study of post-abortion patients only 8 weeks after their abortion, researchers found that 44% complained of nervous disorders, 36% had experienced sleep disturbances, 31% had regrets about their decision, and 11% had been prescribed psychotropic medicine by their family doctor. A 5 year retrospective study in two Canadian provinces found significantly greater use of medical and psychiatric services among aborted women. Most significant was the finding that 25% of aborted women made visits to psychiatrists as compared to 3% of the control group. Women who have had abortions are significantly more likely than others to subsequently require admission to a psychiatric hospital. At especially high risk are teenagers, separated or divorced women, and women with a history of more than one abortion.
43.3 million babies have been killed by surgical abortion since 1973
Browse. Go tell all those children there are "plenty of people wanting to adopt". Go on. Tell them that even though they were told that they were too sick/fragile/not the right color/too old/not pretty. I mean, did you even read replies before yours?
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