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Registered: March 29, 2002
Posts: 134
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What is a girl gets raped and doesn't want to be a teenage mother that is raising the offspring of a rapist?
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Registered: March 19, 2002
Posts: 140
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Puppy, killing your own flesh is more justified than giving it away? I don't think so. And the fifteen year old girl shouldn't have a one night fling and if she does she should take the measures to not get pregnant. But if she does, she needs to take responsibility and take care of the child. The child might have a good life and there is aid available to the girl.
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Registered: April 07, 2002
Posts: 35
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I'm very pro-choice. I am againest abortion, if it is done many months into the pregnancy. I believe that's wrong. But think about it, if a girl has a one night fling with her boyfriend at 15, then gets pregnant. How are you expecting a girl to be pregnant for nine months, have a child, and then support a baby for the rest of her life while still being a child herself. I think it would be wrong to bring the poor child into the world. I know that giving the baby for adoption is an option. But giving up your own flesh and blood is the most difficult thing for a girl to do. I believe that many girls would never be able to do it. I know ive been sounding very pro abortion at the momment, but you know, i really think it depends on the circumstances of what's going on.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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People like to make choices, but like to ignore the consequences. They like to live in a fantasy world and abortions are a way for people to escape a consequence of the choices they made.
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Registered: March 19, 2002
Posts: 140
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First of all, who's fault is it that there's a baby in the first place? It's not the baby's. Second of all, why should the baby get killed for the mother and the father making a mistake. You're right, it shouldn't. Third of all, what do you mean the mother's life is ruined? Sure, it will be hard to deal with a baby in high school, but that doesn't mean your life is ruined. There are so many high demand jobs right now, the mother can go get training and the gov't will help her out with the cost. This is yet another example of America making excuses for irresponsible people. You can't kill a child just because you were too stupid to not have it in the first place. There's no way around that. Now that you have the child, don't continue to make excuses and try to do the best you can. Just cause you have a child doesn't mean your life and its life is ruined.
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Registered: August 19, 2001
Posts: 180
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I am pro-choice, as I have stated before. I, however, would never have an abortion, unless absolutely neccessary. It wouldn't be a convinience thing for me. And I wish people would only do it in the early stages of pregnancy, none of those really late ones. But I have a conflict on my conscience. I am for protecting fetuses from abuse. I mean, like the mother smoking or drinking or doing drugs. I have an adopted bro and sis who we got when they were babies, and I watched what they had to go through to get that crap out of their systems. How is it ok to be for protection of fetuses and pro-choice? Can anyone help me reason it out? Here or noise-mail. Thanks. It's really bugging me.
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Registered: March 30, 2002
Posts: 9
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First off, those impressing their religious beliefs onto the situation: state clearly, and then back off. Wow, congratulations, you believe something. The key word is belief. However, there's something called civic law. That's the law citizens of the United States follow. It is pro-choice. Why? The baby is not a legal entity and therefore denied equal-protection rights. Why exactly do you assume that is it your business to tell other people exactly what they can and can't do? This is a nation founded on human law, and anyone who argues otherwise is false. Believe what you will; impress none of it on us.
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Registered: November 03, 2001
Posts: 378
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But the mom's already alive, why do you care about a baby who hasn't done anything yet? If the mom's life is ruined, why is it good that the kid's alive?
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Registered: March 19, 2002
Posts: 140
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Who is to say that the baby's life will be ruined? Sure, it will be harder, but that doesn't mean that it's life will suck. Who are we to decide what type of life the child will have? Someone I know was a prime candidate for abortion, a lot like the situation you described, but her mom didn't have an abortion. Now, she is a productive person and she is very important in my life. Sure, there are some negative after affects from the situation that wouldn't be there if her parents had an abortion, but she enjoys her life more than not. It's just an example, and I'm not saying it will always turn out good, but it is not up to us to determine if the child's life will be ruined.
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Registered: November 03, 2001
Posts: 378
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BigNewYorker: My thoughts exactly!
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Registered: March 26, 2002
Posts: 11
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I used to think that abortion was wrong in all situations...until one of my good friends got his girl pregnant. I think that the best option is to have the kid and give it up for adoption. His girlfriend wants to have it and keep it. He wants to have an abortion. Now, in a case like this, I think that an abortion would be a better choice than keeping the baby. I know...the kid would be given no chance. But look at this way. Ruin one life, or two.
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Registered: November 03, 2001
Posts: 378
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Kittie, I pitty yu morr!
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Registered: November 03, 2001
Posts: 378
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Okay, I'm not following the devil, I don't even believe in the devil!!!!!!!!!!! Please stop giving me reasons against abortion that have to do with god, I don't care, I'm athiest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, DrStangeLove, elfeminista has a good point of view, it simply needs to be tweaked into a point of view people can deal with. I think she is on the right track. By the way, you always use the the term closeminded, just a thought . . .
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Registered: December 31, 2001
Posts: 5
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To all those people who say that when a girl is pregnant that it is a fteus and not a baby you are extermely blind. Where did you get your information from? If you go to any doctor and say something as ridiculous as that they will laugh at you. Abortion has nothing to do with a religion, all you people who make it out be about that are crazy. It depends on the person not their religion or lack there of. I am against abortion but thats just me. People, you have to realize that no matter what you say or do people are still going to have unprotected sex before they get married. And even married women get abortions. They were doing it back in the time of jesus. you people need to get your facts straight before you post something on-line and make a complete jackass out of yourselves. 
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Registered: February 04, 2002
Posts: 85
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For the ppls who are talking this crap about Jesus is fake and unreal. You're full of it!!!! I think that u really need to look at ur lives and c-where it is going. Is it heading in the right direction? From the way it sounds...it isn't that great. My faith in God is very far from weak and hollow.U need to stop following the devil. He won't get u very far at all.  U obviously need to really rethink ur life.  because u really have issues.
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Registered: April 09, 2002
Posts: 38
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The way i see it is that it is wrong. if a female gets pregnant then its gods work. Espesialy if she's on the pill or had her tubes tide or whatever, its all in his hands. if you don't want a child their are people who can't have children who would be willing to adopt it. babygirl 
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Registered: November 01, 2001
Posts: 390
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For my full and unabridged opinion, visit "Yet Another Abortion Thread" in this same board. Thank you! Peace, Birdy 
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Registered: March 13, 2002
Posts: 3477
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Would you please attempt to open you eyes and stop saying anything that has to do with religon or our current society is "phallic" or "patriarchal". Your repeating the same weak, non-informed, and unbacked argument for everything. You read a book and it closed your mind.
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Registered: April 06, 2002
Posts: 15
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Boy what a cheezy post that last one was. First... They are fetuses, not babies, not children. *Jesus freaks* brainwashed by patriarchal Instititutions are the people who make up the overwhelming majority of antiabortinists. How would christianity ensure a stedy stram of jesus slaves if it did not control womens' bodies? well to hell with jesus. Christianity is a fake and hollow religion as are all patriarchal, phallic religions.
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Registered: February 04, 2002
Posts: 85
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I think that abortions are extreamly wrong. I think if ur having sex u should be married. and if ur married and still want an abortion ur really dumb. I say this because, the only reason God put sex and married ppls on earth is to reproduce. Marriage is a sacred thing that was only made for married people, because they had permission from God to take part in such an act. We are here to replace the angels that were thrown in the fires of hell because they thought that they could over power God him self.  Boy were they wrong!! "FYI":in order to actuall have an abortion...the baby has to be developed enough so that the docter can perform the operation. in order to kill the child...the doctor goes in with this tool that grabs the childs head and snaps it. The sad thing about this is that when it is being done....many people,"even some doctors", said that the child knows that its in danger and tries to get away from the tool. It actually moves around trying to avoid death!!! Birth control is another form of abortion. once a sperm and egg is together....there is a soul inside of that cell. When a child is killed before birth....their souls go to hell. a child must be baptised in the grace of God if they are to be saved. The only way they are allowed into God's kingdom is if we pray fro their lost souls. 
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