I am pro-choice because I do not think that people should make decisions for other people. all of the people with stories that have i was almost aborted help prove my point that the choice should be the mothers.
just look at is sensibly, there were more abortions before it was legal than there is now and it is safer. The baby doesnt feel pain in most LEGAL abortions because it cant (nerves are not connected).
Just becasue you say people should be responsible doesnt mean that they will. DO you want a child to be care of another child. For some people that is okay but I know people that have gotten pregnent that could be bad influences on the child.
Abortion isnt an easy out. It involves months of therapy and is a major surgery. THey do not just walk in and get it done. they go in get info and come back later and come back again. it is a process.
Birth control does not always work. You can get your tubes tied and still get pregnant. there are many reasons that could be in play. it is a personal decision by the mother maybe even mother and father but it is not yours (really its leagally not and should not be)

Well Said!!!

I am completely pro-choice, I believe women should have the right to choose whether to have their baby or not. And a woman doesn't have to be "stupid", just to be pregnant. Birth control fails, and what about the ones that are raped? where I live (not the u.s.) many girls on the street or in poor communties don't know any better. They don't know what the consequences will be. I think you would call this "ignorant" though, not "stupid". So what about the kids? There is not enough money or people to take care of all the poor children. Some luckily stay with their mothers, but others are left alone, on the street, having to beg for money or food. Have you seen a two year old having to take care of itself? There are simply to many of them to take care of. And even those that are lucky enough to be in orphanages and such, don't have enough food, attention or anything else. Can you really claim responsibility for all these millions of children? Many times these children grow up to be like their parents, ignorant, continuing a vicious cycle. And it's like this around the world. If you asked a lot of these kids would say they have a horrible life and not even living. Can you let a woman give birth knowing what the life of her child will be like?
What about the women's life as well, if it were in danger because of the baby? I think that the mother's life should come first, no matter what. I think no one, especially the government, has the right to take away women's choice of whether they can have an abortion or not.

Angelface, you don't have to be stupid to get pregnant. There are many birth control options, but they can fail.

And from what I remember from biology class, in the beginning stages an embryo is little more than a bunch of cells. I specifially remember seeing "nervous system develops" in the book, meaning that before that point they had no nervous system. I'm really not sure what I think about having abortions 5-6 months into the pregnancy, it's a confusing issue.

Well , I do not believe it is anyone elses responsibility than those who are dumb enough to get pregnant. I can understand if you're raped or whatnot , but when you're willing to lay down with a guy and not use birth control , or not use it properly than I guess you're just an idiot. With all the birth control available now I don't see how anyone has an exscuse when they get pregnant. Now of course if they had any decency in them they would do the right thing and not murder one of God's most beautiful gifts. The man who wanted my mother to have an abortion said basically the same things you are saying. Tell's me a lot right there....

Anyway you can badger me with the same question all you want....you're not making much of a point in my opinion. There are plenty of people I know of who were born "unwanted" , but became a happy , "wanted" child and grew up with great adoptive parents. With as many people out there right now who WISH SO BAD that they could have a child....and then to see a bunch of worthless , no-good women walk into an abortion clinic like it's no big deal.... that's just sick. That baby could grow up in a wonderful household , but who will ever know when he's been murdered. LIke it or not....it's murder. No way around that. Seems to me that you're trying to justify the execution of a human being just because an inconsiderate woman became pregnant.

AngelFace - you have not answered my question. Are you willing to take on the unwanted fetus of people you are telling not to have abortions? - The thousands of woman that you don’t know? – So, thousands and thousands of unwanted babies? You think you have the right to make that choice without having to be involved in the repercussions?

By saying that YOU are willing to take on the responsibility is exactly it. YOU are making a choice for YOU. DO you honestly believe you have the right to make that choice for others??? Especially when you are in no way involved with the consequences

And Ms. Heaven-
’It doesn't stand up to civil rights, but I'm not telling them what to do, I'm telling them not to do exactly what you said. Having an abortion is forcing death on someone else. Taking control on another's body within them.’

I’m not saying that I agree with it. My views on abortion are probably closer to yours than you think. With that- why is no one asking why there are so many abortions in the first place? Regardless, the issue is still about choice- I’m saying that a woman that I don’t know should have more control over something growing inside of her than I should.

AGAIN. The issue is about choice. -If you don’t want to have an abortion, than don’t have one. If you think they are wrong, you are entitled to that opinion. BUT DO NOT try to change the law to take that choice away from other woman. PERIOD.

It's common sense that a conceived life should live, and I have the right to make that decision as I am a life, and therefore know the natural instinct to live from birth.

"Are you kidding me?
You should never force anything on anyone else. - Especially, what to do with their body. How does that stand up with civil rights?"

It doesn't stand up to civil rights, but I'm not telling them what to do, I'm telling them not to do exactly what you said. Having an abortion is forcing death on someone else. Taking control on another's body within them.

"It is your opinion that an unborn child is even considered life. It is your opinion that abortion is therefore, murder. It is your opinion that life is valuable. It is your opinion that your views are common sense."

I'm not a science major. However, I know that around 4-5 months or so, a time when many women get abortions, the fetus is very much a life, (see Kahira's posts). It is my knowledge that life is valuable. It's something I know in my heart, because it's an innate sense that I've known since I was born. The common sense that I speak of, is that when a baby is born it tries to breathe.

If that was my baby inside of me....YES! I would take the responsibility of taking care of HIM or HER! NOT IT! Btw , it's not an assumption thata fetus is a baby....it's the God-honest truth. Face it. You all saying a fetus is not a baby is just another way to try and justify murder. Makes you feel better to make up an exscuse doesn't it?!?!Yah...exactly ...another form fo blaming it on somebody else to get the blame off of you.

You are assuming that a fetus is a baby. And are you going to take care of the unwanted fetus when it becomes an unwanted baby?

helllloooo! my goodness. If someone came up to you and started strangling you, then you could scream. A baby in the womb can't scream out when a doctor kills it. Is this fair? Why is killing an adult any different than killing a child?

Are you kidding me?

You should never force anything on anyone else. - Especially, what to do with their body. How does that stand up with civil rights?

Your argument has no bases because not only are you placing value on things with a completely subjective view, you are defining terms with these same views.
It is your opinion that an unborn child is even considered life. It is your opinion that abortion is therefore, murder. It is your opinion that life is valuable. It is your opinion that your views are common sense. You see?

Let me be clear. I am not saying that life is invaluable. I am saying that you have no right to tell me or anyone else what to do with my body. Just like I wouldn’t tell you to have an abortion.
No we are not talking about what to eat for breakfast, however it can be looked at in the same way because that too is about choice. And, what you do or don’t eat for breakfast does affect your life for that day – at least for a few hours anyway.

I have a question. If you think you should ‘force” your opinion on people who want to have abortions, telling them not to. Then, are you willing to assume all financial, emotional, and physical responsibility for the consequences of that? Are you willing to take on all unwanted children?

Think about it. Before you say- well they should have taken the proper precautions, etc. What if they tell you they did? And if they didn’t, the reality is that people are having sex. Unfortunately because this country is so divided in socio-economics, the education about preventing pregnancy and STDs is a long way from being available enough, thorough enough, or soon enough.
I’m not saying abortion should fulfill the void of proper birth control. I have already said that I, personally, would not have one. I will not, however, “Force” this belief on others and therefore I am pro-choice. Because, the fact remains the issue is about choice.

Well of course it's an issue about choice also. This is a civil rights choice. I'm not going to have one, because I don't believe in it, but why shouldn't I force this particular ideology on other people? It's common sense. This is a choice that results in the taking of another person's life. Murder is an issue about choice also. A murderer has the choice whether to kill or not, just as a pregnant mother has the choice to kill her unborn baby or not. We're not talking about forcing opinions on what to eat for breakfast on each other. I'm speaking out for the right for life, which is an opinion that we're all naturally born with, but some are denying to others.

This is my final time responding on this subject for the simple fact that I have already revealed my perspective and given key arguments and facts that support my perspective.

Heaven021, if you were to carefully read my last statement on which you referred to, then you would see that I personally rebuke the whole argument of women just being "tools of reproduction". For that reason is why I am pro-choice. I was just stating how women have, and continue to be defined in those derogatory ways such as them being capable of only house work. The way you twisted my words were not cool.

Another reason why I am not responding is because no one truly has responded to my arguments concretely. Or, you just did not read my last line. Here it is for the last time.

I do not believe that abortion should be mandatory of forced upon any women. I am not against women having babies or being mothers. After all, I had one of the best. If you do not like abortions, do not have one. But do not force you beliefs and ideology on some one else. Every one responds to different circumstances different ways. Til next time.

P.S. Excuse me if I sound somewhat arrogant, I just believe that I have proven my point.

I'm sorry! I must of read it wrong!! I agree with that statement-I'm sorry I didn't give you the credit for saying it!! But I agree abortion is a PERSONAL CHOICE!!!! Like I said before if someone decides to have one it is their decision NOT OURS!!!

Ms. Heaven –

The statements are the same in that the issue is about choice.

I don’t see anything wrong with that. What is life?
What do people mean when they say “get a life” or “live life”?

The issue is still about choice.

LilSarah-
"If you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one." That's what I wrote. Heaven disagrees with us;)

CALIBLU---->You had an AWESOME post!!! Perhaps the best one that I've read!!!!!

I believe it should be legal and stay legal..I know I'm gonna get bashed for saying that but, I say that b/c it is personal choice...there are pros and cons to EVERY decision we make in our lives. Regardless of what it is...You cannot tell another human being to do or not do something. The simple fact is like I think Heaven said is if you don't believe in them don't get one! It all goes back to it being a personal choice, the person having one is the person who has to make that choice and live w/ it for the rest of their lives!! I don't think it's our right to try to persuade them one way or the other-it's their decision to make not ours.

Also to the person who said if you get pregnant then you deal w/ the consequences..I would never consider a child to be a consequence...

"If you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one."

That's the same thing as saying, "If you don't believe in life, then don't have one."

People who say that anti-abortion laws are taking away a woman's right over her own body are being hypocritical, b/c by having an abortion you are taking away EVERY right over another's body.

i do believe that abortion is wrong. if you get pregnant then you have the consequences. but what if you are raped or its a case of incest? i think in those cases it should be up to the person what they want to do. i know that may sound a bit off but think about it.