Hey PrincessL, nobody said it was ok to kill or hunt animals! I am appalled by all of you who think that just because an unwanted child might have a hard life, being in orphanages, or getting maltreated by their immature mothers, means that they should be murdered. I believe in God, a higher spirit, and that that baby was conceived and put on this earth by God for some reason, I don't know what, and it's not up to us to decide. Maybe just to do one task or whatever. Yes hundreds of kids are waiting to be adopted, but I'm sure they'd rather be waiting than dead! Also, the government shouldn't be able to decide what we do with our bodies, and therefore we shouldn't be able to decide to murder another's body. You're all being hypocrites.
Ah, but the difference between killing a human fetus and a chicken egg, is that the chicken eggs haven't been fertilized yet. The human has, and once an egg is fertilized, then its a life.
actually, the kind of chicken egg we eat, are simply chicken eggs that haven't been fertilized... that would be the equivalent of a human egg that hasn't been fertilized... the fetuses that are killed in an abortion, HAVE been fertilized. There's your difference.
What about the 11 year old girls raped by a man with AIDS and the child will eventually die whether it is instant or a few weeks. What about the teenagers who will throw there child in a trash bin and have it suffer until it dies, or the ones who put there babies in a plastic bag and suffocate the child to death. What about the young girl whose parents will throw her out of the house even if she gives the child up for adoption. What about the mean comments a young girl will get if she was raped and is now pregnant. What if the baby is destined to die in the delivery room or the mother will die from having a child. There are circumstances and the women deserve the right to choose what will be best. Would you want your child if you lived in a undeveloped country to go through starvation and beatings at an orphanage? Would you want a mother to have a child, decide that putting it up for adoption is to much work so she keeps the child, then starves it, beats it, and teaches it to do wrong things and one day he or she gets angry at the world and shoots up their school, or commits suicide, ect. ect. All of these things can and do happen, teenage mothers aren't the most responsible or mature(some not all) and many have a child and the child is worse off then if he or she were dead.(this goes all mothers not just teenage ones that are irresponsible and imature. Abortion isn't the answer for all people or even most but there is the small precentage that benefits and so do the would be children from abortion. Besides making it illeagal does not stop it, it just makes it done illegally and it is a lot more dangerous to the people having the abortion.
ppl this is the only thing i have to say: if you decide that you are old enough and mature enough to go through the act of procreation, you are therefore old enough and mature enough to handle the consequenses, whether it may be a pregnancy, std or anything else that may result from sex. i'm sorry to be so crude but if you can open your legs to spread the joy, you can now close them and take care of outcome. it is not the child's/fetus's fault that you didn't protect yourself or your partner properly. finally, in my friend's eternal workds, just spread the joy not your legs, so not to find yourself in this situation.
A baby's heartbeat can be seen on ultrasound as early as 18 days gestation...18 days after conception. A baby's heart has been beating for a while before most women even know for sure that they are pregnant. Just a thought...
Frankly, my opinion is that, personally, i think abortion is homicide and I could never do that to my children. On the other hand, I am for it because if the government passes a law saying that we can't have abortion, then the government would have control over our bodies and what we to our bodies. And when you come to think about it, thats pretty scary.
i dont necessarily agree with abortion, but i do think that it is the right of the woman to choose. i dont think anyone who hasn't been a teen mother, wheather it be by rape or just not being careful could understand the situation that young mothers are in. if i myself were to get pregnant then i wouldnt choose abortion, but to take away a womans right to choose is unconstitutional. America is all about choosing and having the freedom to choose. if a person wants to have an abortion then it is their right to do so. no, i do not agree with it or condone it but i strongly disagree with the government trying to take away a basic human right. by saying that women should not be allowed to have abortions, you're saying that woman should have a right taken away from them. is that what you want our country to be like?? our decisions made for us?? and its true that you can adopt but look at all the orphans there are out there today. there just arent the facilities to house all the children that are not chosen to be adopted. the child could be put in a home and grow up that way but would u like to spend a good part of your life bouncing from one foster home to another?? so yes, abortion may not be what you would choose to do with your life if the situation ever came up but let the woman choose, after all its her right.
To everyone who have said abortion is wrong GOOD FOR YOU!
I agree 100%
If you are raped, I understand the pain you must feel... especially if you become pregnant. But don't take your pain out on an innocent life. The baby did nothing to you.
If you feel like you can't give the child a "Proper" life.. than give the baby up for adoption... There are many couple's who can't have babies, you may be bringing a couple joy.
And there is no such thing as a mistake. You know the second you lose your virginity the chances that you are taking. If your a teen and you don't want to be a mommy quite yet... there is a fail proof option, it's called abstinence.
i agree with u 100%! and whoever said that some girls in some countries dont know any better - that's not neccessarily true. al least not in all cases. poor peeps can have proper morals too, u know. and about the rape thing, i know u cant help it , but THAT KID DIDNT DO ANYTHING. right now im talking the USA. there are lots of peeps in the US that use abortion. & they can afford to take care of the kids. as long as u dont make the kids life the worse for it (like talking about it all the time) if u got raped, their's nothing wrong for keeping the kid. your parents shouldnt get mad about it - u couldnt help it - & if all u will to accomplish by killing it is to keep yourself from all the responsibility then ITS WRONG!!! a baby is alive as soon as it's born. duh! bacteria are "alive" and they're only ONE CELL. i know they arent really the same but enough to make my point. and im going to bring religion into this. if God didnt happen to bring babies' souls into Heaven, just think of all the souls that would be suffering in Hell. B/C SOME GIRL MADE A WRONG CHOICE.
Fruitloop, it's quite an assumption to make that if we pro-choice people "got in a fight, or a loved one died, or a boyfriend/girlfriend broke up with you and asked would you rather be dead right now? you'd probably say yes." All of the above has happened to me, and I've never thought of suicide, or wished death upon myself. I do however have sence enough to know that never having to live an horrible life of neglect, starvation, abuse, (which, by the way would probably result in death before the age of 5) is better than trying to exist through it.
Ok, my guess is that if I would talk to you guys after you got in a fight, or a loved one died, or a boy/girlfriend broke up with you and asked 'would rather be dead right now?' you'd probably say yes. Nothing in life can be worse than no life (I'm putting aside religious beliefs for the moment, even though it does play a huge part in this issue.) Even if the mother was raped... what the hell did the baby do to deserve to die? It didn't ASK to be conceived that way. I don't know when scientific life starts, but there's a spirit there. No matter how much you try to run around it, it's still murder. And what's all this about having unsafe sex? If you don't want to go through the pain of that, DON'T FREAKIN HAVE SEX! Abstinence is the only 100% form of birth control. I'd throw away a night of pleasure to have the rest of my future.
i agree with JaxB.. as sad as it is, to hear that children, little inocent children, would rather be dead, even though they have not expierienced all the great things in life, but they know, at that young of an age that they no longer want to be living! that is a strong strong statement.. and if a child has to make it, wow... im speechless.. thats sad..
i duno.. in that situation, you really do have to take the well-being of that child to mind.. i know mothers, well at least mine, would do anything in the world for me.. and does everything she can to protect me... and if you were the soon to be mother of a child who will really have nothing throughout most is his/her life.. i just think you have to see it from the mothers point of view.. she would rather have them taken away in a manner which will not hurt the them.. i just dont think it is fair to have a mother bring a child into this world, and know that from the day its born, its suffering, and basically on its own..
i myself, would never have an abortion, but thats just becuase i could not bring myself to do it, but in some cases, that is the appriot thing to do.
you also have to take the freedom and right that mother has to make her own decisions in to concern.. as selfish as something like that may be, in some instancis, it is the rigth thing to do..
i just think this is how people should view this.. if it is better for the child, and this is what the mother wants.. then that is what is going to happen.. no one is saying you yourself have to do it.. we are just asking that you respect the decision that some people feel is best.
NSYNCGIRL, protection isn't always that simple. Sometimes condoms and pills fail. I completely agree with JaxB, Between foster care and death, with so much abuse and neglect in the system, I think I'd prefer to never begin life in the first place.
I agree with Heaven021 and gooberflinch, if you don't want the baby, DON'T HAVE THE BABY! You should not punish unborn children. What if your mother didn't want you? Would you rather be in a foster home, or DEAD? They did nothing, why kill them. If all the teenagers want is sex, then use protection, it is that simple!
Personally, I don't like abortion, but I do believe that it is everyones personal choice. And a fetus is not really a baby until it is born, or at least has a heartbeat and organs. It is just a cell at that stage, maybe not even get past that one. And as for dumb parents, yes, maybe they were dumb to get pregnant, but they were probably just as ignorant. I live in a country that so many homeless, penniless, ignorant women get pregnant because they don't know any better. And sometimes, when their kid is born, they leave them. These kids starve, are cold and work since the day they were born. And even if they're with their mother, they still suffer. There are so many kids like this that the orphanages there are don't have any room, money or food. Trust me, I've seen lots of them. So if you ask them if they'd rather be dead or alive, I bet you they'd say dead. Furthermore, what if the women got raped? How could you carry something like that in you, thinking that it was your child by force and violence? I know some women can do it, but some others just can't. And if the women was in problems, or her life was in danger, then most likely the baby's is too, and even if it wasn't, the mothers should come first, because she is alive and there are already people that love her and care for her. So that's just my opinion.
P.S. And i think it's horrible how you say it's just our "right" to kill animals for food, just cause we eat them. HOw much food do you waste every day, out of curiosity? We share this world with them, and by all rights, they deserve much better treatment than we give them.
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