well then if it is hard to have a kid be adopted, like I said earlier, the parents should have thought of that before they got pregnant.

I agree with PrincessL. The second an egg is fertilized it is not a life. At best, I could call it a life when there is a heart beat, when organs develop. When there are just cells clinging to a uterus, it isn't a life. Adoption isn't always an option. There are hundreds of thousands of children who are in the system because they were put up for adoption. Most have been in foster care for 44 months (I posted more info in another thread). Most children will never get adopted at all, let alone into a good home.

You said, "but it isn't ok to kill a human being who did do something wrong unlike these innocent animals." The humans that are killed did NOT do anything wrong to deserve it! For cryin out loud, they are unborn babies. Use some common sense. It doesn't take a genius to realize that babies can NOT do anything wrong before they are born! my goodness. You amaze me.

Also, I personally do not think killing animals just for sport is morally right at all, so saying that is making a very general statement.

In answer to your question, yes, I believe miscarriage is death. The unborn baby fetus, or whatever you wanna call it, is unable to be carried to term because of whatever reason, and it dies. However, it is still a baby that dies. Although, in that situation, it is not a murder, because no one can help that.

HOW can you say that a baby is only life once it is born!? It is just as alive a day before it is born as it is when it is breathing! My goodness, common sense will tell you that.

I have no response to that. Other than...all that stuff I just said.

If the situation is one where the parent(s) don't want to have to take care of the child, the better option is to put it up for adoption. In a situation where the mother is at risk, well I can't really make anyone's decision for them, but personally I would die for my baby.

What about when aborted fetus's are used for scientific studies? is that wrong too, because I don't see how it is ok to experiment on all other animals but not ourselves. Why is it ok to murder all animals but ourselves, and plenty of people kill other then food reasons, mostly just for sport. In such a technologized world we don't need to go out and hunt yet many people do. why is it ok to kill animals without using any of the animal for resources but it isn't ok to kill a human being who did do something wrong unlike these innocent animals. In the world today it is morally ok to kill animals for sport, but then abortion of a fetus who will become a baby is wrong. Why is it when we are all animals sharing a common enviornment we find it horrible murder to kill each other but when we kill other animals for reasons other then needs then it isn't even noticed. ok I'll get back to the original topic now. personally i wouldn't have an abortion, but there are people who have to, whether having a baby would kill them during birth becaue of certain complecations or they were raped. I have a question for you, is a miscarrage death? because if abortion is murder then a miscarriage must be death. A baby is life when it is born and takes its first breath. the rest is preperation for life. A person isn't an adult until they are 18 and the younger years are preperation, you couldn't say that because they grew and developed during that time that they are an adult when they still aren't 18. i know it is a different situation but it does relate.

No one calls killing chickens murder anyways! People kill cows and chickens and so many other animals, obviously it't not called murder; its called providing us with food. However, the minute a human egg is fertilized it becomes a life. Furthermore, if it was "just a fetus," and "not a life", then why do so many mothers get post-abortion depression years after going through one? It's because no matter how many times you tell yourself it's not a life, you know that it actually is. It becomes a life as soon as conception happens. As does a "chicken egg." I'm not arguing that. However, we have rights to kill animals for food. Killing humans, however, is out of the question. Abortion is only a result of selfish parents who made wrong decisions to get pregnant, whether or not it was an accident, and end up not wanting to have to take care of a child. If they don't want a child to have to go through life with certain living situations, then they should not get pregnant in the first place. One more thing, according to your "its just a fetus theory," at what point exactly, does it become a life? And how about partial birth abortiions? Are those not lives?

How is it murder when the baby is a fetus, not even a person. Nobody calls chicken eggs murder because they were hatched for becoming chickens but were taken before the baby chicks could form and break out of the shell, and used for food comsumption.