Originally posted by WJ2: hay if you lose an arm in an accident cloning seems pretty good it just sux when people get all touchy-feely "ohh its human life" ahh plez when you lose an apendege dont cry to me!!!
I won't, if you were to clone your missing arm, what will happen to the cloned person who had to give you his/her arm? Is he/she not living and have their own rights too? Hey, don't forget limb prostheses or artifical limbs is also a good idea too.
yea but a real arm is better than a plastic one and thats the touchy feely crap i mentioned i know that it could be done i dont know the details find an expert this is all from stuff my step dad has told me and hes really into these things
"The only thing bad about cloning is 1. try to tell someone they are a clone and 2. people might take it as messing with human life because god created us how we are and also what happens to us is how its meant to be"
Originally posted by WJ2: hay if you lose an arm in an accident cloning seems pretty good it just sux when people get all touchy-feely "ohh its human life" ahh plez when you lose an apendege dont cry to me!!!
I won't, if you were to clone your missing arm, what will happen to the cloned person who had to give you his/her arm? Is he/she not living and have their own rights too? Hey, don't forget limb prostheses or artifical limbs is also a good idea too.
"Older men declare war. But it is the youth that must fight and die." - Herbert Hoover
hay if you lose an arm in an accident cloning seems pretty good it just sux when people get all touchy-feely "ohh its human life" ahh plez when you lose an apendege dont cry to me!!!
I don't think it's good or bad, I think it's dangerous.
A lot of people want kids or pets cloned to deal with their grief and convince themselves they have their child or dog back....and I think it's risky and possibly unethical to mess with people's emotions like that (including a cloned human, because they will be an individual but perhaps expected to be somebody else). They never will have the original.
Also, I think clones tend to age way faster. the cells of a kitten might be 17 years old because they came from a dead cat, and sometimes they act like 17 year old cells instead of newborn cells and cause serious health problems.
And then, like stupidity said, would we treat clones the same way? What if somebody decided that the wanted a clone so they could harvest the clone's organs and cure their heart disease with a genetically identical transplant? What if cloned people were seen as a weight on the health care system or the economy and they were completely shunned and mistreated?
rockon4ever, you're replying to a very very old post well IMO I believe cloning is a bad idea if should be use in society frequently. Having identical beings of yourself causes too much identity problems. Cloning may show to the world that humans have advance in technology to this stage but humans are playing God! It's not the right thing to do, but if people insist on doing so, humans will lead to their own destruction. God's power are never meant for humans.
"Older men declare war. But it is the youth that must fight and die." - Herbert Hoover
well hell, the world's already overpopulated enough, we dont need a whole nother way of making kids...but the ideas a really intresting concept and could go far if exploited
Why do I have a conciense, all it does is **** with me?
___There is no easy way to incorporate them into society. Why would you clone more babies or children that would need to be adopted, why would you clone adults that would need jobs? Who would pay for it? How many hate crimes would have to be commited before they would become labelled as more segregated than people of separate races? How will their existence in general be protected from the growing forces of monotheism(who just love being able to decide things dealing with human life)?
___You see, this is just a major sequence of problems waiting to happen. Whether they are physically similar or not, people discriminate... there is no escaping human nature(especially not in our society). The difference between twins and clones is mainly in the reaction of the world toward them. It may be humane to treat clones the same as everybody else(which not everyone would do).... but is it humane to create them in the first place?
I think clones would be like regular people. Actually, they WOULD be regular people wouldn't they? They would have a brain, a body, a mind like ours. How would they be different besides the way they were err..produced? Like with any other humans, our thoughts and ideals are shaped by our surrounding environment and teachings.
___Religion has stopped less from being legal, so it doesn't matter how similar they can be if most of the world doesn't hold them as equals anyway. It's the same thing with A.I., if it can't co-exist peacefully among the rest of the population it'll never be something worth pursuing. The fact that it's "a crime against god" will end up being enough to keep it from ever being legal.
quote:how can twins or triplets be clones, they don't look like each other sometimes, therefore they don't have exactly the same genetic make-up, clones do. Clones are EXACTLY the same.
Wrong, my young apprentice.
Some multiple births come from one egg which splits, so they have the same genetic makeup. Sometimes multiple births result from two or more eggs being released and fertilised at once, so are no more similar than any other siblings. This is why some multiple births look very alike and others do not. Even identical twins/triplets/whatever don't look EXACTLY the same, but apparently thats down to environmental factors. I know me and my sisters used to look almost exactly the same, but our faces have grown apart as we got older.
'the equivalent of a brain'… hehe. Dumba.ss. Cloning is scary, but don't make more of it than is actually there. A brain is a brain. I think you're more talking about genetic engineering, creating a new kind of being by altering the genes.
Clones are human, and I'll sit on anyone who says otherwise.
Or what if I was cloned twice, now that would be just plain inconceivable! I mean it's just not fair!!! What kind of unspeakable atrocities would we have to commit before being subjected to such beastly inhumanity????? Ahhurhhhhgugahhhhh!!!!!!!
Does anyone out there, anyone at all... have any clue what the difference between twins and clones are? You'll get a scooby snack if you guess right because it's obviously not as incredibly easy as well, it is. Come on people this takes about the education of a third grader.
Certain types of twins do have the exact same genetic makeup... my older brothers were nearly impossible to tell apart until they were around 16, for example.
quote:If something like a clone is created and given the equivalent of a brain, it could take over the world, it could become stronger than the human race. Think about it, you may think it's stupid at first.
I thought about it, and I still don't get what the hell you're attempting to say...
how can twins or triplets be clones, they don't look like each other sometimes, therefore they don't have exactly the same genetic make-up, clones do. Clones are EXACTLY the same. If something like a clone is created and given the equivalent of a brain, it could take over the world, it could become stronger than the human race. Think about it, you may think it's stupid at first.
"""""Concentrate real hard then try and fathom how this can be so... it's actually not that difficult."""""
You're all still missing the really, really big difference to why they can't be grouped together when proving which life would be more real. It's not some big secret I'm refusing to tell you, it's blatant truth!!!
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well IMO I believe cloning is a bad idea if should be use in society frequently. Having identical beings of yourself causes too much identity problems. Cloning may show to the world that humans have advance in technology to this stage but humans are playing God! It's not the right thing to do, but if people insist on doing so, humans will lead to their own destruction. God's power are never meant for humans.
