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Picture of luv4ever104
Registered: July 06, 2004
Posts: 87
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Abstinence, even in theory, is not a good idea. Humans are animals too and we all have a sexual instinct


NO! un true for many reasons
[LIST]
  • Humens experiance sex as a personal incounter and not just a niological one
  • almost all animlas have a space of time where the female it reciptive (in heat), humen females can be reciptive any time
  • We are the only speices that commonly had intercouse face to face, and have full body conntact
  • unlike other scocial animals humens prefer privicey
  • humens are one of VERY few species where females experiance orgasim
  • in the animal word rape is common as a way for the male to spread his geans

    humen intercourse is a relationship and not simply and act.

    ** I got this information form the book Rumors by Philip Yancey**
  • Picture of berenelen
    Registered: July 15, 2004
    Posts: 212
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    I disagree. I think that schools should teach ALL froms of birth control and STD prevention. ABsinence should be included becuase it is the only birth contrel and std prevention that works 100% of the time.


    I never thought about it this way and it makes sense. Abstienece should be taught as a way to prevent pregnancy, but just like another form of contraceptive. I guess what I'm just against is the preaching of abstinence.
    Picture of mxchick1522
    Registered: July 21, 2004
    Posts: 87
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    I feel kids should be taught abstinence and about contraceptives. You can't stop every teen in America from having sex at a young age (or before marriage). It's just not possible because we all do not have the same views, values, or beliefs. But you can give them ideas on how they can protect themselves or stay safe (condoms and getting tested for AIDS and STDs). And what a lot of kids need to understand is that abstinence not only keeps you from getting pregnant, but it is done as a moral thing (for some people), and because many kids today that are having sex are not emotionally ready for it?
    Picture of luv4ever104
    Registered: July 06, 2004
    Posts: 87
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    Abstinence is ok, but I don't think it should be taught in school.
    I disagree. I think that schools should teach ALL froms of birth control and STD prevention. ABsinence should be included becuase it is the only birth contrel and std prevention that works 100% of the time. They shouldn't make it seem as if this is the ONLY option. My school is in a poor area, so we get all the talk, assemblys, and presntaions on EVERYTHING. The youth clinic ( with free condoms, and birth control) is right next to my school.
    I'm absinante because if I were to get pregnate I would never forgive myself. (this is just my little side note)
    Picture of NewWorldHippie
    Registered: December 20, 2002
    Posts: 236
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    f you're not ready to raise a child, you are not emotionally prepared for sexual intercourse


    Not entirely true, but anyways, what if you just don't WANT to raise a child right then (or ever).
    Picture of Kharybdis
    Registered: April 15, 2003
    Posts: 1396
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    Abstinence should be practiced. We have that sexual need but we are not like animals... Animals are wild, they dont know how to control and stuff.. I think that there the population is ever increasing nowadays so thats why abstinence is a good thing... Plus, people treat sex in a casual way and not with emotions and deep love. People should realize that sex isnt everything and that teens should aprreciate virginity or abstinence coz its the only 100% sure way not to have STDs and other diseases.
    I think Bush is right. By banning contraceptives, people wont depend on them as these contraceptives are the ones making people say its ok to have sex coz we have protection and they just forget about the fact that it isnt just about protection, its abut sex being an emotional and a thing to be done only when two people are married.
    As shocking as this may be, lots of people like to ****. They **** with protection, they **** without protection, they **** in a plethora of ways. If every sort of artificial contraception there is were to be banned, people would keep on ****in'. You'd have to be incredibly naive to believe that by simply promoting abstinence above all else and banning birth control, people will magically decide to wait until marriage to have sex.
    Picture of taurusgirl
    Registered: July 13, 2004
    Posts: 372
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    I don't think it makes a person irresponsible to have premarital sex. It is important for schools to teach kids about using protection. It is unrealistic to think everyone is going to stay a virgin until marriage.Many virgins make a bigger deal out of sex than it really is,even if you love the person you lose your virginity to, it won't be what you're expecting. I'm you sure you will all understand what I mean someday. I think that there needs to be birth control available, people would still have sex even if there were none, we would all just be more likely to get STDs and become pregnant.I don't think it is fair when people act like anyone who disagrees with them is wrong. Having sex is a personal decision, only you know when you feel ready to have sex no matter what anyone else says. No one has the right to tell another person whether or not they are ready for sex, you can only decide for yourself. Never let anyone pressure you into doing anything you are not comfortable with, the decision is yours.Whether you decide to have sex or to abstain never let anyone make you feel bad about your decision. People should mind their own business when it comes to very personal issues like sex, and not try to impose their views others.I have noticed quite a few of you have said that you intend to wait until you are married to have sex,there is nothing wrong with that but I know so many people who said that once but have changed their minds. I am not saying this will happen to all of you, but people do tend to change their minds about abstinence as they get a little bit older.One downside to waiting until you are married is that some people never get married. Whatever you do I wish good luck to all of you. Smile
    Picture of lakergal08
    Registered: May 16, 2003
    Posts: 37
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    if you're not ready to raise a child, you are not emotionally prepared for sexual intercourse. sex is not sheerly about physical pleasure. there are emotional and spiritual aspects to it as well.
    Picture of WorthWaitingFor
    Registered: June 14, 2004
    Posts: 2721
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    Abstinence is ok, but I don't think it should be taught in school.


    I completely agree. In a family life class (that's what we call them here), there are still going to be people who go out and have sex no matter what you tell them. So it's better that they know the facts and know how to protect themselves so they don't get themselves in any unnessecary trouble. I believe it's partially the school's fault that there's so many teen pregnancies nowadays. But it's never going to change in my school---we still have a "small town" mentality.
    Picture of WorthWaitingFor
    Registered: June 14, 2004
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    Well, it would be evil if he took away all forms of birth control, but he only took away one, the one which is most harmful to women. So it's not much of a dictatorship.


    Wow, that comment almost sounded like you think I'm stupid. I know I must be surely mistaken.

    I didn't say it was a dictatorship. I said that IF he took away all forms of birth control it would be BORDERING on dictatorship.
    Registered: June 28, 2003
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    Abstinence should be practiced. We have that sexual need but we are not like animals... Animals are wild, they dont know how to control and stuff.. I think that there the population is ever increasing nowadays so thats why abstinence is a good thing... Plus, people treat sex in a casual way and not with emotions and deep love. People should realize that sex isnt everything and that teens should aprreciate virginity or abstinence coz its the only 100% sure way not to have STDs and other diseases.
    I think Bush is right. By banning contraceptives, people wont depend on them as these contraceptives are the ones making people say its ok to have sex coz we have protection and they just forget about the fact that it isnt just about protection, its abut sex being an emotional and a thing to be done only when two people are married. Big Grin
    Registered: July 20, 2004
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    Abstinence, even in theory, is not a good idea. Humans are animals too and we all have a sexual instinct. Preaching abstinence as the ONLY way to go won't work--people will still have sex, and then they'll just end up pregnant if there are no forms of birth control available to them. How ideal would it be to have a country full of people with unwanted children? Or, worse, a country full of people with HIV.

    I think the only way that will work in terms of sex education is to teach ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies and how to have safe sex. Hormones rage and cannot be controlled simply by learning that abstinence is the only option. Granted, there are those who choose to abstain, but that is a personal choice and that choice should not be restricted.
    Picture of berenelen
    Registered: July 15, 2004
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    Abstinence is ok, but I don't think it should be taught in school. Instead of teeling us what not to do, they should be teaching us more about the consequences if something happens and how to use birth control. By preaching abstinence, authority is creating a forbidden fruit which is not really the greatest thing to do for obvious reasons. I believe that people who can handle the responsibility and possibility of getting pregnant (despite all the birth control) should have sex. It is their decision, their body, their life.
    Picture of CelticNewAger
    Registered: December 11, 2003
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    omg if bush is againt birth control, he is older than the pope.

    and **** any law. if i want condoms, ill get them and i dont care how illegal theyll be. same with the pill. im not going to get raped and not take the morning after pill because of bush. idiot getting into my life....
    Registered: June 24, 2004
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    I think it's a good way too avoid a lot of mushaps OBVIOUSLY but forcing it upon people is inhumane and seriously wrong. If someone wants to abstain, good for them!I salute those people. But if they don't all the love to them! Human rights bush...HUMAN RIGHTS!!!!!
    Picture of ayudante
    Registered: June 17, 2004
    Posts: 47
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    I think that abstinence is a great thing, but I also think everyone should have their own choice when it comes to sex.
    Picture of LinkinParkGurl88
    Registered: December 19, 2003
    Posts: 163
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    I support abstinence but I also think that the class should also tell students ways to protect themselves if they choose not to abstain.

    **Courtney**
    Registered: July 05, 2004
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    But taking away forms of birth control is completely stupid. Not every one is going to practice Bush's values and he shouldn't expect them to by banning forms of birth control. That's bordering on dictatorship because I'm guessing the basis of his stance on abstinence is that he's Christian. By taking away birth control, that's like saying America has to be entirely Christian and follow the rules of the Bible, as in don't have sex until you're married.

    Well, it would be evil if he took away all forms of birth control, but he only took away one, the one which is most harmful to women. So it's not much of a dictatorship.
    Registered: July 18, 2004
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    I think abstinence is fine, as a personal choice, but I don't agree with imposing it on everyone else through legislating things like 'abstinence only' education. For starters, its unrealistic, and secondly it makes the ridiculous presumption that everyone even plans on getting married, which they don't. That doesn't mean they should be expected to be terminally celibate if they choose not to marry. Promoting that borders on theocracy since its imposing a subjective religious idea of 'morality' on everyone whether they share those beliefs or not.

    I personally could never marry someone I've never been intimate with in all ways, including sexually.

    I also think that a lot of women in certain areas of the country don't have good acess to emergency birth contol because of conservative attempts to block it. I know that some hardline Catholics even think that birth control should be made illegal, which is scary...fortunately that will never happen.
    Picture of NewWorldHippie
    Registered: December 20, 2002
    Posts: 236
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    wow, this is noiseboard of the day, yeah!
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