IF you're not ready to take full responsibility of another life then you shouldn't be having sex. Now when i say this, i direct it towards teenagers and people without decent homes and jobs. Most of these people do it for satisfaction but what they aren't seeing is that they are not only putting their life in danger, but they might be putting an innocent child's life in danger.(the "danger" could be very mild depending on the situation) Also, why can't you just wait? Why must you "copy" adults by screwing somebody thinking you're cool? or whatever feelings you could want out of sex? Studies have shown that sex partners that get the most satisfaction out of sex are married partners. Not teenagers, or one-night standers; now the people don't neccesarily have to be "married" people but people who are willing to be together forever and who love each other to death. A lot of people make me sick by going out and having so much sex and for what? Pleasure? What about kids? Thats what sex is supposed to be for. Thats what our bodies are made for. Now i'm not saying sex for "fun" is totally bad, but when you go out and do it with 50 different people in one month, that just makes you dirty. And dirty is never good.

Fortunately, recent studies have shown that teen pregnancies have been going down(Thank God!) in the last couple of years and at least half of the teens whom were spoken to said they were practicing abstinence. It's really cool these days because there are a lot more sex-ed teachers out there informing kids about STD's than before.

Bush's plan is ignorant and unrealistic. Let's face it hardly anyone waits until they're married and tons of teens are having sex, it's just how things are so at least they should be educated and have protection available to them, because without it there's only going to be more problems.

Hi.I'm abstinence and I'm for it but I don't like what bush is doing because for the grown ups they need protection against anything. But for teens I believe that if your big enough to have sex then your big enough to have babies.

sorry to bring up a dead thread, but i just had to give some responses to this...

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yes, it is... Because it means you are prioritizing pleasure over much more important things.

what is more important than pleasure? anything you enjoy gives you pleasure, whether it be sex, baseball, nursing, etc.

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WOmen are meant to be people. Pregnancy is just something that comes along with being a woman.


Children wouldn't be born if there was no pregnancy. You and I would never have been here if it weren't for pregnancy. Tell me yoggie, if you are so protective of women's rights, why are you hindering women to get pregnant or say that pregnancy is a burden and that it is ok for a woman to abort her baby when in FACT, it is a woman's right and DUTY to bear children. Without children, life would just be full of adults and old people.

you just completely ignored his argument, and instead went spouting off more of your stuff. yes, women can get pregnant, is is part of their biological function. but it is not their only purpose! your a woman, in your prime fertile years, so why arent you married and pregnant already. afterall, isnt that what you were born for? dont you maybe think that takign up your whole life with a career is selfish? or do these rules only apply to other people?

oh, also, women arent the only ones designed to reproduce. men have two testicles and sperm cells, so by your reasoning they should be off ******** everything in sight. Personally, I think its selfish of people not to have sex, because they are just ignoring their god-given purpose for life.

IF ITS FUN DO IT

I'm sorry, but I disagree. I don't think my sole purpose on this planet is to make children. That's degrading to the female gender, in my opinion.

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Prioritizing sex is not selfish.

yes, it is... Because it means you are prioritizing pleasure over much more important things.

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Youi were banned for breaking the rules. I wish they owuld ban your IP address

ha! so, you were the one who wanted to ban my IP address? WOW. No, If I was banned for breaking the rules, how come many are not banned for breaking them?

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WOmen are meant to be people. Pregnancy is just something that comes along with being a woman.

Children wouldn't be born if there was no pregnancy. You and I would never have been here if it weren't for pregnancy. Tell me yoggie, if you are so protective of women's rights, why are you hindering women to get pregnant or say that pregnancy is a burden and that it is ok for a woman to abort her baby when in FACT, it is a woman's right and DUTY to bear children. Without children, life would just be full of adults and old people.

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If you think it is, you should stop being "righteous", because getting pregnant and having children is your sole purpose.

of course it is the sole purpose!!! Pleasure only comes second. I mean, why are women made to have 2 ovaries and egg cells if not the purpose to become pregnant? besides, women were made to have these ovaries and stuff TO PRODUDE CHILDREN. If you can make me see a woman who doesnt have any ovaries at all or egg cells, then I will truly believe that women's sole purpose is to have pleasure and sex.

so did you wait till you were married?? do you think it was worth waiting for?

i am married so i don't have to be abstinent anymore...

i think i have said this before somewhere else but...abstinence is great to teach but abstinence only is not. there has to be some sort of happy medium...

(man i really like using elipses)

The reason you think Abstinence is unrealstic has to do a great deal on your morals and values. And in reality it has to do with your upbringing how your parents have taught you. If you have parents that tell you protect yourself, use condoms, or help you get birth control. Than there is your problem for why you think Abstinence is unrealstic. It is sad to say that, the majority of parents don't care for there children.
Here is a question for you and whomever else reads this. What is the purpose of sex? You will be surprised (and if you think for real) at the same time saddened, that you know why you should have condoms and birth control, but not the purpose for sex. Abstinence is realistic if you have morals and values that are realistic. I recommend you watch this movie , "Kids"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113540/
Powerful and realistic when you come and think about Abstinence being unrealistic.

I think that it is a good thing, if you can not have sex, you have great mind control (For those who can and would have sex, unto which i am not one of) So yeah i think that it is a good thing, so yeah...

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someone you "love" at such a great risk.

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Premarital sex is no more dangerous as long as you take precautions.

Can I just say that I have had sex with only one person - my girlfriend - and the only reason we broke up was because it'd be easier with both our busy schedules (and different schools) than trying to find random time to see each other?

Oh, and I'm kind of screwed (no pun intended, I swear!), according to you, jam_18, because I'm a lesbian, and unless I get some form of artificial insemination, AND I cannot marry, so I can have nothing BUT premarital sex.

And as for the psychological reasons as to why teens have sex, you know what ligeia? I have had sex. I have been neither drunk, nor in an emotional fit. I have only had a great experience, if you want to know.

That's all I have to say about that for now. So unless you can find a decent argument as to why I, as a gay girl, should not have sex, as I can't get pregnant from it OR marry someone to solve the premarital issue, WITHOUT using God as an excuse, please just drop it.

The problem is that when you engage in sex, it is not just a physical act, there are so many emotianal and psychological results. For example, there is a hormone women produce automatically when they engage in sex that they also produce during childbirth. It is a hormone designed to bond with the other person, whether the man or the new baby, when they are both at their most vulnerable. That is one of the reasons it is so much easier to end a relationship before you engage in sex, and why it is so much more devastating if you do. The suicide rate among teenagers having sex is much higher than those who choose to remain abstinent. An unselfish reason to have teenage sex would be whatever reason someone could conclude after considering all of these things in terms of their partner instead of themselves.
And, just for the record, i would like to say that i don't consider myself "righteous", i just like things that make logical sense, and premarital sex is not. If you disagree, please give me any scenarios you think are logically appropriate reasons to put yourself, and someone you "love" at such a great risk.

I have a gift for Jamaica.

Here ya go.

Just, think....

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What would be considered an "unselfish reason" to have sex?

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Prioritizing sex is not selfish. Selfish is doing something only for yourself. That would make masturbation selfish and sex unselfish.

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I have been banned for being righteous.... LOL

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Youi were banned for breaking the rules. I wish they owuld ban your IP address.

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These teens obviously forget the fact that girls and women are made to PRODUCE offspring and no matter what you say or do (like, if you go bungee jumping or stretch your neck so hard it hurts) the fact is that, WOMEN ARE MEANT TO GET PREGNANT.

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WOmen are meant to be people. Pregnancy is just something that comes along with being a woman. It is not the point of your existance. If you think it is, you should stop being "righteous", because getting pregnant and having children is your sole purpose.

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ABSTINENCE

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Wouldn't that go against the "women are meant to be pregnant"?

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What would be considered an "unselfish reason" to have sex?

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To wait... and love.... That is what makes an unselfish reason. When you love someone, you dont automaticall think, "hey, i want to have sex with this person".... No..... If you really and truly love that person, you wait. Wait for the right time, Wait for love between you to grow and develop, wait for 2 years, wait until you have met that person's friends and family, wait until you already know that THAT certain person is really for you, loves you truly. Otherwise, having sex with someone whom you are not sure you really are loved in return is a selfish reason because you prioritize pleasure first before love.

What would be considered an "unselfish reason" to have sex?

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And what about the kids? Did anyone ever stop to consider the lives that are aborted, orphaned, or severly neglected? The problem is that teens have sex for purely selfish motives, usually without considering the consequences beyond a broken condom. Anyway, i'd like to hear what you guys have to say before i go on...

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I totally agree with you ligeia.... I have been banned for being righteous.... LOL... but for now, i will just use my other noisename. Yes, i do agree that teens nowadays have this abnormally high hormones that they cant say NO to sex.. I mean, why is that??? Is it really necessary for you to experience sex while still a teen? And also, i am one of the sponsors for the thread, "Abortion is Wrong" and i just dont understand why young teens engage in sex full of passion, and yet when they realize that they would get pregnant, they whine about it and go into a period of depression because of unplanned pregnancy. These teens obviously forget the fact that girls and women are made to PRODUCE offspring and no matter what you say or do (like, if you go bungee jumping or stretch your neck so hard it hurts) the fact is that, WOMEN ARE MEANT TO GET PREGNANT. That is why, ABSTINENCE si the only safest, 100% way (for teens) not to get STDs, and not to get pregnant. And i agree, that most teens have sex for purely selfish reasons, just so they can get to experience sex. I tell you (this applies to both boys and girls) that you should just wait for marriage, because in marriage, what have you got to lose right?? You are already married and it is legal.... you can get pregnant or not... It is better to be safe than sorry.......... Also, please, if you are a pregnant teen now, have the child and raise it. Children are special. They are the joys in life that cant be replaced.

I'm sorry, but i believe there is something everyone seems to be neglecting (and forgive me if i am wrong). Sex is not just about the physical act, and it comes with many psychological and emotional consequences, even if the participants are lucky enough to evade STDs and other unwanted situations. Pre-marital sex and extra-marital sex are mostly about self centered emotions. Teens often lose their virginity in a fit of anger, sorrow, or drunken stupor. It is proven that young people, especially women, are more likely to engage in unsafe sex if they have problems at home, or feel that they need to find love elsewhere than where it should be given, at home. It's a vicious cycle people, and remember that i am not speaking to everyone, simply for the majority. People who can't find love at home look for it elsewhere, and then create their own patchwork families where the kids end up being neglected.
And what about the kids? Did anyone ever stop to consider the lives that are aborted, orphaned, or severly neglected? The problem is that teens have sex for purely selfish motives, usually without considering the consequences beyond a broken condom. Anyway, i'd like to hear what you guys have to say before i go on...