listen here your name is freedom or death but you say gay marriage is wrong. You need to read that bible one more time and get your shit straight you talk alot of bull

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1. Marriage is meant for procreation. If you can’t procreate, you shouldn’t be allowed to marry. This includes sterile people. Everyone, before marriage, should be forced to be tested in order to determine whether or not they are eligible for marriage. In fact, once you are no longer allowed to pro-create, your marriage should be forcibly ended.

So here we go with the Eugenics debate... if someone is deemed inappropriate for procreation or something, we lock them up in an insane asylum. Come on, SO last centurry.

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2. Lesbianism is unnatural. If you aren’t able to have intercourse where one person enters the other, it is not appropriate. Unless they have a natural appendage below the waist and above the knee to insert in an edifice, it is unnatural, and will not allow for a marriage to become consummate.

Of course, this person doesn't know about a strapon. Oh wait, natural... meaning fingers? Cause when someone stands up, the whole hand is naturally below the waist and above the knee...

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3. Likewise, unless a sexual act can cause an orgasm simultaneously for both parties involved, it is unnatural and not an act of consummation. If a marriage cannot be consummated, then it should not be allowed.

I think this was intended to target the men in the audience.. and let me tell you, it works. Anyone heard of prostate milking? Chyeah. Look it up.

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4. By wanting to get married, they are trying to fit their unnatural ideas into a natural and straight society. This becomes detrimental to the sanctity of marriage, because if anyone can become married, how can we possibly be able to define the marriage and family unit that we hold so sacred? On that note, divorces should be outlawed as well since they encourage “trial” marriages of sorts. If you marry a member of the opposite sex, you should legally be bound to them, no matter the circumstances.

The whole "unnatural" thing still has to be proven... and besides, now you're saying the human being has no freewill. Uhhh... anyone?

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5. By allowing gay marriage—a currently illegal act—it sends the message that anyone can mess with the government and change any law to support their own needs. This is completely out of line with what the U.S. stands for, which is “for the people, by the people.” The fact of the matter is, the people don’t want gay marriage, and by allowing gay marriage, the government is undermined and the people are left unheard. Through this happening, there will be an increase of rapes, murders, thefts and a cornucopia of other crimes to that effect. The U.S. is not a place for crime.

I'd like to see your sources about rapes, murders, etc. And you're taking things about the US for face value. First, it is not illegal - it is simply not legalized. However, it IS legal in one state, and civil unions are legal in several others. and your quote comes from the Gettysburg Address. It has nothing to do with what the US "stands for" though what Lincoln probably meant anyway is that the people of the US EEEELLLLEEECCCTTT politicians they feel represent their most important issues. And it just so happens those same politicians, as of late, have been sticking up for a minority. I say good for them. The majority should not interfere with the equal liberties of the minority.

I love the sterile point

And remember now: it's perfectly legal to marry someone for money, but illegal for two men or two women to marry for love!

Great post.

i think you guys are missing the point

im pretty sure her original post was meant to be ironic

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unless a sexual act can cause an orgasm simultaneously for both parties involved, it is unnatural and not an act of consummation

ironically, simultaneously orgasm generally requires techniques that are pretty "unnatural"

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Just because it happens in animals doesn’t mean it’s natural for humans. Humans are above animals; they know the difference between rights and wrongs, and they have choice.

being gay isnt wrong!
and we dont have a choice what our sexual oriantation is....that how we're born!

Look There is a huge problem all over the world with over-population and famine so saying that people shouldn't have gay marriage because they can't have kids is somewhat... wrong. And who to say what is natural just because they were not made to have sex with others of the same sex doesn't mean they can't. Human sex is for 3 reasons #1 children. #2 pure fun. #3 love. All the time there are people who don't have kids yet are married so are you saying that they are evil?

Also it is only illegal in some places and the justice system is flawed all over the place you cant say its not. So who's to say this isn't something it should change? And what about wife beaters? rapists? Molesters? are you saying that people would have to be chained to them?
and if someone loves another very much but they're sterile they wouldn't be allowed to marry?

The argument you present is riddled with holes and sugar coated with prejudice.

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Originally posted by Rosalyn_Andrews:
Any one with an extreme opinion is insulted by people, many of whom just were passing through this site.

There is no way around it....extremeists only cause problems.

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Anyone else find it funny that her avatar is a rainbow?

Ah! Sweet Irony!

Anyone else find it funny that her avatar is a rainbow?

Yes... this bullshit is over.

YEE HAW!!!

*square dances*

I'm sorry I will not be able to answer any more of your lovely debates, but this site is not what I thought it was. Any one with an extreme opinion is insulted by people, many of whom just were passing through this site. Because of this, I no longer feel welcome on this site, and as such, am leaving.

i think some stated this in some other thread but the reason gays want to get married is so that they can get some of the benifits of marrage like say man1's family closed his hospital room to all but imediate family man2 unless they are married cant visit

If they aren't, they shouldn't get married. Or crawl out of their hole and interact with the world. Marriage is about much more than our society today has made it. But delving into that would get off the subject at hand.

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Love isn't something that lasts forever. It's too easy to fall out of it. You need to constantly reaffirm your love and trust for that person. In that way, love can last. (That's my only response to the troll)

But are people willing to work at it?

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an abstract idea that does not always exist in places people believe it exists in. Half of "love" marriages end today

Love isn't something that lasts forever. It's too easy to fall out of it. You need to constantly reaffirm your love and trust for that person. In that way, love can last. (That's my only response to the troll)

thepoetic1:
I am against marriage of anyone who can't produce children for economical reasons. I am not against anyone who is gay. They can be gay, they can live with their partner for as long as they want. I don't care. I just do not want them to take benefits from people who are meant to have them because they can give society back something in return: posterity.

Ikki14Reed, Kharybdis, clpo13:
I like rainbows. And I don't care if it's a Gay Pride symbol.

brokenrazor21:
1. I know about homosexuality, and I know people who profess to be homosexual. Therefore, I do not know nothing about it.
2. Yes, I have heard of love. It's an abstract idea that does not always exist in places people believe it exists in. Half of "love" marriages end today, so why not go back to making marriage what it should be about: a social contract?
3. I think you mean ignorant, because "illiterate" is not being able to read and write, or showing that one is not able to read or write. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illiterate You understood it; therefore, it must not be illiterate.

Speed and clpo13, I'll get to your posts later. I only came on the site quickly in order to check up on the thread, and saw one I really had to answer. I don't have time to answer the length and intelligence that your posts contain right now as it means more thought than not.

this is ignorant. I'm so tired of ppl thinking that gay ppl have no place. well you cant help how you feel dont discriminate against something you know nothing about. And for your little ideas about marriage well have you ever heard of love? this is one of the most illiterate things I've ever read.

Heh. Irony, I bet.

The Rainbow is God's wonder which has only Recently been desecrated by Godless homo***uals .

Rosalyn, why is your avatar a Gay Pride symbol?