If you feel that whatever your faith is restricts your life to these guidelines, then good for you. Live your life the way you want to live it. I and everyone else in the world will live the way we want to live it.

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Originally posted by Rosalyn_Andrews:
1. Marriage is meant for procreation. If you can’t procreate, you shouldn’t be allowed to marry. This includes sterile people. Everyone, before marriage, should be forced to be tested in order to determine whether or not they are eligible for marriage. In fact, once you are no longer allowed to pro-create, your marriage should be forcibly ended.

I've gotta call my Gramma and PopPop right now! They better not still be married, I mean I know it's been like 50 years of happiness, but now that PopPop is sick they better split.
How dare they continue to be happy together without sex!!!

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2. Lesbianism is unnatural. If you aren’t able to have intercourse where one person enters the other, it is not appropriate. Unless they have a natural appendage below the waist and above the knee to insert in an edifice, it is unnatural, and will not allow for a marriage to become consummate.

ATTENTION ALL AMPUTEES, PARAPALEGICS, QUADRAPALEGICS, AND VICTIMS OF ACCIDENTAL MEDICAL OPERATIONS DEFORMING/REMOVING GENITALIA: Your marriages are now and forever terminated, you will not be able to remarry or generally have a happy life with your spouse because you can't get it up or get it on.

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3. Likewise, unless a sexual act can cause an orgasm simultaneously for both parties involved, it is unnatural and not an act of consummation. If a marriage cannot be consummated, then it should not be allowed.

This comment is too stupid to warrant any response.

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4. By wanting to get married, they are trying to fit their unnatural ideas into a natural and straight society. This becomes detrimental to the sanctity of marriage, because if anyone can become married, how can we possibly be able to define the marriage and family unit that we hold so sacred? On that note, divorces should be outlawed as well since they encourage “trial” marriages of sorts. If you marry a member of the opposite sex, you should legally be bound to them, no matter the circumstances.

"A natural and straight society?" Are you fucking joking?!? Our society puts more weight into how hot you are or how much money your parents have than actual brains or personality.
And I would love to see you tell my Aunt Terri that she is "legally bound" to the man who spent their twenty year marriage throwing her down the stairs and beating her to hell.

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5. By allowing gay marriage—a currently illegal act—it sends the message that anyone can mess with the government and change any law to support their own needs. This is completely out of line with what the U.S. stands for, which is “for the people, by the people.” The fact of the matter is, the people don’t want gay marriage, and by allowing gay marriage, the government is undermined and the people are left unheard. Through this happening, there will be an increase of rapes, murders, thefts and a cornucopia of other crimes to that effect. The U.S. is not a place for crime.

Anyone can "mess with the government" that is the point. The people are the government and as such all people have the right to challenge any law that they feel violates their rights as a human being and as a citizen of one of the freest nations on earth.
As for "changing any law to support their needs" the forefathers planned for that. The constitution is vague so that it can adapt to changing cultures and societies.
You make me sick, and I hope you know that people like you, 50, 40, even 30 years ago fought against the rights of interracial marriage, for many of the same reasons that modern day BIGOTS hate the idea of gay marriage.

BTW, nice rainbow.

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Originally posted by Matiko:
Im christian..and being gay is a TERRIBLE sin...why do you think got made a man and a woman..not a guy and guy and an adoption centre!?>>!
and i wanna get into heaven O.O

How about that whole "don't judge" thing? I thought it was up to God.
I'm a Christian, but I think it is TERRIBLE to force any of my beliefs on someone who doesn't feel the same way.
bigot

why is their avatar a rainbow? (?.?)

to finish my earlier post...

4. As for it testing the governments power...thats totally insane...the government can decide to whatever it wants. It does not mean that there will be a higher ANYTHING. Gay marriage is legal where I live, and we have a very low crime rate....so there you are proved wrong once again. I think that you should change your signature, because you obviously are NOT always right.

5. As for another thing about your marriage points, the priest that is marrying you, ( the christian prist) says "do you promise to love" not "do you promise to procreate.

you are the most narrow minded and ill researched person that I have ever had the displeasure of reading a post from. Please get your facts straight before posting on this sight. This sight is meant for knowledgable discussions. Not rants about something that is simply in your mind. You have no proof and no logical explanations.

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Originally posted by Matiko:
why do you think got made a man and a woman..not a guy and guy and an adoption centre!?>>!
and i wanna get into heaven O.O

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!
I'm ADOPTED. And you know what. My dad and MOM both love me a lot. I was adopted by heterosexuals. And... my birthmom was straight too. *glares*

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Originally posted by fallenjuggaletteadb:
Now here are some points on this side of the fence.

1. Christianity is not about judging people. I am bisexual and my church still openly accepts me. It is no ones right to tell someone that their relationship with god will change. You can not read Gods mind.

2. And if your such an avid believer of Christianity that you have to bring it up, you should read Revelations chapter 2. While speaking in the letter to the churches, it openly speaks about how they judge people and how to leave that up to God. You may not condone gay marriage, but don't try to be God for a day.

3. As for [QUOTE]Marriage is meant for procreation. If you can’t procreate, you shouldn’t be allowed to marry. This includes sterile people. [/QUOTE....thats just bogus. Marriage, is meant for the couple who are in love. (Listen to the preist while he is speaking.) In the bible God says it is a sin to have sex outside of marriage. God does not once say that it is a sin to not have sex in marriage.

3. As for things being unnatural, dont you dare throw that in our face! Hair dye is unnatural, makeup is unnatural, fingernail polish, most of the food you eat. All of that is acceptable, and I can bet anybody that reads this that they do something "unnatural" every day. So that's a hypocritical statement.

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The most reasonably presented post in a long time. (Y) Awesome.

Now here are some points on this side of the fence.

1. Christianity is not about judging people. I am bisexual and my church still openly accepts me. It is no ones right to tell someone that their relationship with god will change. You can not read Gods mind.

2. And if your such an avid believer of Christianity that you have to bring it up, you should read Revelations chapter 2. While speaking in the letter to the churches, it openly speaks about how they judge people and how to leave that up to God. You may not condone gay marriage, but don't try to be God for a day.

3. As for [QUOTE]Marriage is meant for procreation. If you can’t procreate, you shouldn’t be allowed to marry. This includes sterile people. [/QUOTE....thats just bogus. Marriage, is meant for the couple who are in love. (Listen to the preist while he is speaking.) In the bible God says it is a sin to have sex outside of marriage. God does not once say that it is a sin to not have sex in marriage.

3. As for things being unnatural, dont you dare throw that in our face! Hair dye is unnatural, makeup is unnatural, fingernail polish, most of the food you eat. All of that is acceptable, and I can bet anybody that reads this that they do something "unnatural" every day. So that's a hypocritical statement.

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RE: Christianity.

Read the Bible. If homosexuality is a sin, then so is eating seafood/ham, and wearing gold and pearls.

Do your research before making such narrow-minded polls. Kthnx.

Though I do love the fact you use kamoji as do I ^-^ I must ask you this... why is being gay a sin?

Im christian..and being gay is a TERRIBLE sin...why do you think got made a man and a woman..not a guy and guy and an adoption centre!?>>!
and i wanna get into heaven O.O

You do not choose who you fall in love with, and anyone should be allowed to marry who they love. We as a society do not have right to tell people who they can and cannot marry. Allowing gay marriage is not equal to theft or murder. Rapes, Murders, etc are not going to rise just because gay marriage is allowed.
Also, marriage is not just for procreation. Yes, you have to consummate a marriage through sex, but that has nothing to do with having children, it is about signifying for relationship w/ a person in the most personal way you can. Not everyone wants to have children or has to, we are not in a crisis for people. People have the right to choose whether or not they want children, and there is nothing wrong with not wanting children.
Lastly, there is nothing wrong with divorce, even when people actually marry for love, it does not always last and the two people decide they do not want to be married anymore, that is no crime. Or what about someone in an abusive marriage? They have right to take themselves out of that situation and to free themselves to find a spouse who will not hurt them. It is a person's choice if they want a divorce or not.

I've always rather enjoyed the idea of marriage meaning love but well I suppose it's about me becoming an established runt factory.

what a pig headed untidy little facist

are you serious?

well yes i know im not old enough to get married myself but love is love no matter what race, religion, or sex you are. I believe that as long as it is true love....then you wont' get punished in god's eyes.

So just leave all gays and what not alone....they are still human and therefore should have the same damn rights as those who date the opposite sex.

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Originally posted by jeje:
what if three people are in love with each other. can all three get into a marriage?

exactly. because part of the definition of marriage involves two people. thats just the way it is right? having three people in a marriage is just out of proportion and wouldn't work. its wrong. the bible says polygamy is wrong. history has told us polygamy is wrong.

this same logic can be applied to gay marriage. what if three people are in love what if they want to get married? whys that wrong then? we're already twisting the definition of marriage to begin with.

so according to you, if "nobody gives a fuck about the bible" then it should be okay. right?

I don't understand your position.

What's wrong with letting two people who are in love and just happen to be of the same sex get the same legal benefits as two people of opposing sexes?

As for polygamy, provided that all three are consenting and in their right minds, there is no issue with it for me.

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Originally posted by Kharybdis:
i no u r

omg!!, lol
its short!!!!

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what if three people are in love with each other. can all three get into a marriage?

I don't see why not. As long as all three consent to the marriage, I don't see a problem with it.

And with that, I just cut out marriages with inanimate objects and animals. Neither can give consent. Well, I suppose someone could make a case for an animal giving consent, but no one in their right mind would say that a sofa consented to get married. Of course, no one in their right mind would even want to marry a sofa, rendering my point moot.

At any rate, as long as love and consent are involved, marriage should be allowed. Things might get a bit thorny with minors, but if the age of consent is maintained, that shouldn't be a big deal.

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Originally posted by texaschick21:
okay.

if two people are in love with each other, no matter what sex they are, they should be able to get married.

i believe that the reason why gay marriage is illegal because people say it is against the bible. but i mean, who gives a fuck?
if they are in love let them be.

what if three people are in love with each other. can all three get into a marriage?

exactly. because part of the definition of marriage involves two people. thats just the way it is right? having three people in a marriage is just out of proportion and wouldn't work. its wrong. the bible says polygamy is wrong. history has told us polygamy is wrong.

this same logic can be applied to gay marriage. what if three people are in love what if they want to get married? whys that wrong then? we're already twisting the definition of marriage to begin with.

so according to you, if "nobody gives a fuck about the bible" then it should be okay. right?