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Picture of HeliosLoire
Registered: December 02, 2003
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Then I looked down and saw a homeless person eating out of a trashcan and muttering to himself. A stray malnourished dog is waiting for the homeless man to throw him a scrap. Next thing I know a lexus SUV pulls up alongside me and two wealthy looking young men laugh at the homeless guy and the dog. They roll down their window and one of them says "Hey, why don't you get a job buddy." The lexxus rolls off to a decadent restaurant where the 2 investment bankers spend $300.00 on lunch. They then head to a strip club where they each pay $500 to have a stripper give them head, although they are married. They end the night by getting drunk, snorting a couple lines of coke, and going home to argue with their wives and beat their kids.

How fatalistic. Not everyone with money does drugs, partakes of the use of prostitutes/strippers, or beat childeren. It sounds very spiteful. I feel no pity for the homeless person, being as he could help himself out of it (I agree with the "Get a job" sentiment).

Whats wrong with a $300 lunch, if the people own their own money? So, what you're implying is that these men should take their $800+ and go give it to the poor homeless man. I do understand to a point charity, but if you're implying that it should be manditory like that, then that's just bare-faced communism.

That whole paragraph was worse than a poem on a emo-core web site: Pulling at every heart string available trying to get attention. That doesnt work all the time.
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Registered: November 22, 2004
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Joey probably means he knows latin people from school and whatnot. I highly doubt he has illegal immigrant mexican friends.
As for this, let me complete it:
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I was reflecting the other day and was overwhelmed with a sense of beauty in what I saw. The middle of downtown. I was in awe of what humans have been able to accomplish. Business, accomplishment, progress, all of these things are what seperates man from beast. With all the talk from the left about evil corporations and faceless demons in control of people's lives, even the title of this topic heading "Big Business" one cannot deny the greatness that we have accomplished. Huge buildings of glass, streets, sewers, all of our greatness cannot be denied.

Then I looked down and saw a homeless person eating out of a trashcan and muttering to himself. A stray malnourished dog is waiting for the homeless man to throw him a scrap. Next thing I know a lexus SUV pulls up alongside me and two wealthy looking young men laugh at the homeless guy and the dog. They roll down their window and one of them says "Hey, why don't you get a job buddy." The lexxus rolls off to a decadent restaurant where the 2 investment bankers spend $300.00 on lunch. They then head to a strip club where they each pay $500 to have a stripper give them head, although they are married. They end the night by getting drunk, snorting a couple lines of coke, and going home to argue with their wives and beat their kids.


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Registered: February 22, 2002
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I see being a serf is okay but being a slave is not. That makes alot a sense northstar.

The only difference between slavery and serfdom is slaves are captive for life and serfdom is for a defined perior of time that is not for life.

They are both treated with the same disrespect that no human should be subject to.

FreeMarketLover is right just because you say you have Jewish friend doesn't mean you aren't an anti-semit. FML said it best - JoeyDauben claims he has Mexican friends and is not a racist - give me a break.


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Registered: September 19, 2001
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I refuse to believe that the Jews were held in literal "slavery." Possibly serfdom, but not slavery, no.
OK, I will ammend my previous comment to read as follows: "I suppose if I were a 'serf' and had a wife who could be raped at any time and a house that could be destroyed and children that could be stripped from me, that is the place I would like to live."

The Egyptians were "meticulous record keepers" when it came to records that they wanterd recorded. You think the Pharoh would have a defeat like the xodus recorded for all to see for the rest of time. I certianly dont.


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Registered: January 30, 2005
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Power to the FreeMarketLover. Smile


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Registered: June 06, 2004
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I see no slave markets selling yiddish children.


Yiddish is a language you idiot. Jews are still being persecuted. There are plenty of markets in Israel where they are blowing up Israeli children. I think getting blown up is pretty bad.

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I do see Nubians being captured and sold as slaves, though

American children get captured as slaves and taken to mexico. Russian children get kidnapped. Nubians aren't kidnapped because they are Nubian. Jewish children are blown up because they're Jewish.
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I have jewish friends

The classic answer. Just like Joey Dauben has Mexican friends so he can't be racist.


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Registered: October 06, 2004
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The fact that you deny this happened to the jews disgusts me. You are an anti-semite.


Funny, I have jewish friends, and I never knew! Excuse me aas I goo slaughter their families...

But what evidence supports it, besides the book of Bible?
The Egyptians were meticulous record keepers, but they do not even mention the jews living in Egypt, or even Syria!

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Sea-People enslavement isn't relavant today, jewish enslavement is.


How is it relevent? I see no slave markets selling yiddish children.

I do see Nubians being captured and sold as slaves, though.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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I refuse to believe that the Jews were held in literal "slavery."


Slavery-
1. [n] the practice of slaveholding
2. [n] work done under harsh conditions for little or no pay
3. [n] the state of being under the control of another person

The fact that you deny this happened to the jews disgusts me. You are an anti-semite.
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No! I might label you a misanthrope for this lack of thought or judgement,

I think it's quite obvious that I like lots of people especially because my friends happen to be human people. I am obviosly not an introvert and I think a misanthropic person would almost have to be.
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Do you care of the thracians, the Nubians, Lybians, Syrians, Sea Peoples, and other bizarre ethnic cultures that were held in Egypt during it's 4000 year history?

I would if there had been a historical recurrance of sea-people enslavement. Since the nubians haven't been persecuted and chased out of every country they've lived in for ten thousand years having to endure massacre and holocaust along the way; I will focus on the Jews. Sea-People enslavement isn't relavant today, jewish enslavement is.


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Registered: October 06, 2004
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do you always have to be so dry and spiteful FML? I do not hate any freedom. I tire greatly of your rude and hurtful comments, for I have done nothing to warrent them, besides give an opposing point of view. I lament that you hate me so, but I am not going to apoligise that I refuse to believe that the Jews were held in literal "slavery." Possibly serfdom, but not slavery, no.

And you seem to care of them so, and not others? Do you care of the thracians, the Nubians, Lybians, Syrians, Sea Peoples, and other bizarre ethnic cultures that were held in Egypt during it's 4000 year history? No! I might label you a misanthrope for this lack of thought or judgement, but I hold a little honor, and try to keep my tongue.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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So you only hate jewish freedom.


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Registered: October 06, 2004
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oh aye, you caught me, I am a freedom hater. Roll Eyes That is why I have a STOP SUDANESE SLAVE LABOR poster on my binder.

I am not appoligising, just straitening out a misconception.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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An Egyptian slave could own propery, inherit land, marry whom he wished, and have servants.

I'm tired of enslaver apologists. Northstar, you may try and downplay slavery as not that bad because they had property. But you are just as bad as people saying that Hitler wasn't as bad as is let on.
I can now see that your'e a freedom hater.


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Registered: October 06, 2004
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I know that if I were a slave and got whipped all day long, had no rights or freedoms


A direct quote from "Who's Who in Egyptian Mythology, Second Edition." By Anthony S. Mercatante

Slaves-Slavery was common in Egypt and the entire Near East. An Egyptian slave could own propery, inherit land, marry whom he wished, and have servants.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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"Did they ever get charged, or did they escape to the carribean? (In regards to Enron emploess)" by northstar.

Are you kidding me. Did you even turn on the tv or pick up a paer for the entire year after the Enron scandal. People were charged and people were convicted. And you people say me and Bushsupporter don't open our eyes.


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Registered: September 19, 2001
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Oh nice. I know that if I were a slave and got whipped all day long, had no rights or freedoms, and was treated like a slave by all egyptians, I would like to live there.


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Registered: October 06, 2004
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http://tinypic.com/1hwo0g

Pi-Ramasses
This is where the Hebrews worked and lived after their il-contrived attempt to conquer Egypt.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: January 12, 2005
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As a side note because hebrew slavery is not the name of this board: read the Bible and get God's - not some artist's - rendition of how the "happy Hebrews" were kept in bondage and slavery for uhndereds of years.

Ok, FML is right and I have been careful to never imply that the people at Enron should net be charged. Capitalism is about openess and transparency. Businesses who don't practice those two things are hindering the advancement of the market. The problem that the left makes is assuming that ALL business are like that. They aren't. They understand that to make money you have to have customers and if you run a business that treats its employees badly and customers badly it will go out of business. Just like not all homeless people are rapist, neither are all businesses corrupt. The left needs to get over their "corporat conglomorate is hurting Ma and Pa stores because no one will shop there because they don't want to pay $2 more for everything and it isn't fair that one business can charge less for something than another" rhetoric. Business is morally good in general and stands up for freedom and liberty in the market place.
Except for the generilisation of 'the left' a very good post.


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Registered: September 19, 2001
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An artist's rendition of the place where the Hewbrew worked and lived.
As a side note because hebrew slavery is not the name of this board: read the Bible and get God's - not some artist's - rendition of how the "happy Hebrews" were kept in bondage and slavery for uhndereds of years.

Ok, FML is right and I have been careful to never imply that the people at Enron should net be charged. Capitalism is about openess and transparency. Businesses who don't practice those two things are hindering the advancement of the market. The problem that the left makes is assuming that ALL business are like that. They aren't. They understand that to make money you have to have customers and if you run a business that treats its employees badly and customers badly it will go out of business. Just like not all homeless people are rapist, neither are all businesses corrupt. The left needs to get over their "corporat conglomorate is hurting Ma and Pa stores because no one will shop there because they don't want to pay $2 more for everything and it isn't fair that one business can charge less for something than another" rhetoric. Business is morally good in general and stands up for freedom and liberty in the market place.


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Registered: June 06, 2004
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I think they should be shot. They ruin capitalism. If they aren't shot, I hope they get a cell mate named bubba-sue.


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Registered: January 12, 2005
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Did they ever get charged, or did they escape to the carribean?
Enron? Most of them got charged. I say most because there's probably more involved that just nobody knows about.


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