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Originally posted by mac123:

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Business is great until people like Enron hurt the system

Agreed but there will always be businesses like them.

Did they ever get charged, or did they escape to the carribean?

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Business is great until people like Enron hurt the system

Agreed but there will always be businesses like them.

Business is great until people like Enron hurt the system

I don't even know what the hell is going on any more,

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What are you talking about. He didn't say that part in the middle. That makes no sense.

Yes my mistake I didn't quote correctly. I'll fix it immediatly. Thanks!

EDIT: Never mind for some reason I can't edit it. Anyways you understand now.

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Please rephrase wat you are saying here because I'm not getting what you are trying to say.

I second that motion

What are you talking about. He didn't say that part in the middle. That makes no sense.

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They are made of Steel. Thats my proof. And your guess is not as good as my educated hypothesis. If it was your conclusion would be more similar to mine.[quote] Fair enough but 10000 years is too fa roff IMO. Maybe 2000 if we're lucky.
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And you were saying that, you said that we can't say one building is better than another.that means that I say steel is better than rocks, and you don't. Pretty cut and dry.

Please rephrase wat you are saying here because I'm not getting what you are trying to say.

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Well good, this way they could work 24 hrs a day all year long. YOur opinion about only three month working a year is a lie. They were slaves and you seem to be OK with that.

The workforce is too important to do that, and you know you are being downright stupid. The workers on thoe pyramids had lavish rock-cut tombs, and finds show that they dined on fish, beef, bread, bear, and wine every day.

The Pyramids were built about 2649BC to about 2400 BC during the Third dynasty. The Hebrews entered the delta in 1781 BC, during the decline of the Twelfth Dynasty. Thus sayeth "Ancient Egypt: Art and Archaeology of the Land of the Pharaohs," by Maurizio Re and Giorgio Agnese.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Pictures\piramses1.jpg

An artist's rendition of the place where the Hewbrew worked and lived.

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at any one time there were no more than 20,000 workers on the site.

Well good, this way they could work 24 hrs a day all year long. YOur opinion about only three month working a year is a lie. They were slaves and you seem to be OK with that.

I am not anti-sematic, I just know that there were no jews on the worksite.

Its alright FreeMarketLover, northstar didn't say a half million Hebrew slaves was okay, but 20,000 Hebrew slaves are.

Northstar - your anti-semitism makes me sick.

Did he say 500 thousand slaves at the same time? I think not. You are defending enslavers of Jews. I'm just waiting for you to tell us how great Heinrich Himler was.

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I guess slavery of the hebrews is OK

The Hebrews were not even wandering nomads when the Pyramids were being built. In the time of Unas, one of the later Pyramid Builders, the Hebrews were still in Turkey. The Hebrews were not "Slaves" they just did not like that, when their bid to overthrow the Egyptian Kingdom from their fortress at Aravis, they were forced to, like everybody else, work for 3 months of the year on various building projects, notably the two pylons at Pi-Ramasses. The pyramids were the mystic past by the time the Hebrews even existed.

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It's amazing what you can do with half a million hebrews isn't it.

at any one time there were no more than 20,000 workers on the site.

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They used slaves

In the Middle East, slaves were only used for housework and temples. Mass-market and plantation slaves were not used until the Greek period.

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I know limestone crumbles and Iron does not.

Which is why we still have Trajans Coloum but not one matiza pattern Roman gladis?
I agree with the first two though.

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So just to get back to topic, you think that buildings can't be better than others? You thank that all buildings are the same and that if it is falling down, it is just as good as a 110 story high rise.

A bulding is not just bricks and steel and a foundation and a roof, but it is a being. When a building is made with love and care, and people put their heart and soul to make it beautiful and useful, it is better than a building that is ten times the size, but boxlike and cold. THere is a reason there is an enigma surounding places like the Sagrada Familia or the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Even though they are imperfect in design and structure, they are just so marvelous for what they are, as monuments to art and architecture, that fails to surround normal skyscrapers. Skyscrapers are too capitalized. Building is now an industry, not an art. We of the nostalgic circle are very sorry we care more for a building that is ancient and imperfect than for a box that is new. But tell me this: would you rather have a Roman villa next door or a 115 story tower?

They are made of Steel. Thats my proof. And your guess is not as good as my educated hypothesis. If it was your conclusion would be more similar to mine.

And you were saying that, you said that we can't say one building is better than another.that means that I say steel is better than rocks, and you don't. Pretty cut and dry.

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I know steel is stronger than rock.
I know brick erodes and plexiglass doesn't.
I know limestone crumbles and Iron does not.


I guess you think subpar materials build an equal product to superior ones.

No I don't think that.

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In ten thousand years some people will be having a conversation on whether your piles of rubble are equal to my everstanding testaments to capitalistic greatness.

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that our buildings will not last forever or even 10thousand years. Do you have a source for how long these buildigns last? If not than your guess is as good as mine.

YES.

I know steel is stronger than rock.
I know brick erodes and plexiglass doesn't.
I know limestone crumbles and Iron does not.


I guess you think subpar materials build an equal product to superior ones.

In ten thousand years some people will be having a conversation on whether your piles of rubble are equal to my everstanding testaments to capitalistic greatness.

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So just to get back to topic, you think that buildings can't be better than others? You thank that all buildings are the same and that if it is falling down, it is just as good as a 110 story high rise.

Yes we were getting off topic, thanks for bringing me back. Yes I think that buildings cannot be better than one another because better is too general of a word. It is an opinion. Can one building be taller, wider, bigger, more advanced technology wise, and even better maintained yes because those things can be measured. Better, greatness and goodness cannot be measured.