quote:Originally posted by Bushsupporter: Is that from the Koran?
No, I have never read the Koran, do you doubt that it is true? Give the earth three millenia and this will just be a bad dream. Nothing wroat by the hands of man will last the final test: the test of time.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
Hi, Im new. I have some thigns to say, please forgive me if ive replied to a post someone has corrected or soemthing. Ill say soemthign in regard to what northstar316 has said. the very computer you were using was probably made in china, as much as you despise all the commercialism, you survive as a product of it. The fuel of china and third world countries economy is driven by labour. its not as if companys rip these people from high paying jobs to put them in their factories; they create employment. And you will never know where others get their knowledge from, or if your education was tainted by whatever. As for other posts, commercial companies create jobs. they allow you to live in the financial security that many take for granted. you will probably end up working for a large company. is that such a bad thing? When you put man against nature, that can be a very confusing hting. Man is nature, we are natural. why cant a building (the taj mahal or something) be beautiful and a "natural thing" be beautiful at the same time?
I refuse to believe something created by man (unless it is a work of art, like a painting, a sculpture, a book) is more beautiful than what wa granted by the Earth.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
aye. The day will come when all humanity is destroyed, and even the ruins of your crystal cities lie under the grass, and the trees and the sky will still be here.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
The world is much more beautiful than skyscrapers and steamrollers. Look around someday, past the city, past suburbia. Although cliche, look at the trees and the sky. How can you say that nature is not comparable to mankind?
Illiud Latine dici non potest - You can't say that in Latin
quote:Originally posted by Bushsupporter: I was reflecting the other day and was overwhelmed with a sense of beauty in what I saw. The middle of downtown. I was in awe of what humans have been able to accomplish. Business, accomplishment, progress, all of these things are what seperates man from beast. With all the talk from the left about evil corporations and faceless demons in control of people's lives, even the title of this topic heading "Big Business" one cannot deny the greatness that we have accomplished. Huge buildings of glass, streets, sewers, all of our greatness cannot be denied. I find the left's assault on business not only unfair and incorrect, but immoral. Business and progress is a moral issue and any tearing down of that morality is disgusting. Do you agree? You should.
you are kidding right?
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
You are right about Martha. CEO's should be charged and jailed for thier crimes. Look where she is.
Walmart sells equal quality products with "Dave's Grocery," but at a cheaper price. That is the point of market economies. The market sets the price. People want cheaper items and better selection so they go to walmart. Let "Dave" do that and people will shop there. How did Sam Walton do it? The same way.
"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
I think big business is great when properly checked, what makes me sick is breaches of ethics such as the recent TYCO executive trials and Martha Stewart's stock swindling. These people are FILTHY rich already, why rip off the companies and stockholders? Also companies like Wal-Mart, while seeming to be good by bringing us low prices, are actually undermining free enterprise by muscling out locally owned and even nationally owned businesses. They do this by being the largest wholesaler on the planet which allows them to muscle people around. Wal-mart can make or break a company if they choose and as such their is no room for negotiation with them, which makes them a scary entity.
"Mac, you ever been in love?" - "No, I've been a bartender all my life."
Right so, you would favor high tariffs, which would create high prices (at least in America), and to solve this problem you would cap prices like Diocletian? This defeats the whole concept of market economies. Capping prices is not the solution and niether are high tariffs. I support NAFTA but I think that wages should have been an issue. It is not free trade if one country has a minimum wage of $5.15/hour and the other of $40/week. That is not right, but it doesn't shoot down the argument for lower tariffs and market capitalism.
"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
You obviously know little about Diocletian, and the little that has come to your ears has been tainted by christian teachings. Whereby you want to keep prices low by lowering a tarriff, thereby weakining interior industry, and producing products in overseas factories that a dog would not live in, Diocletian wanted to better the lot of the common people. He was one of the greatest emporers in Rome.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
quote: That is what the christians get for burning down half of Rome.
What an intolerant thing to say. That would be like me proposing to round upmuslims, kill the, and destroy their mosques because a muslim killed 3000 people on Spet. 11. That is ignorant and hateful. I knew that your true colors would shine through. That should be enough to disqualify him from greatness. Hitler killed jews. Would you quote Hitler to help you make a point?
"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
quote: You are quoting a man who outlawed Christianity and killed people for practicing it, took their property, and destroyed thier churches?
That is what the christians get for burning down half of Rome.
quote: He was also one of the most irresponsible emporers when it came to fiscal responsibility.
He was a respite from the economic decline in the Roman World. This was the first time in about five hundred years that the Roman World-State was well-financed, prospering, and beginning to get over the misrule of the past. He was the last great classical ruler in the world.
quote: He also stole a lot of the senate's powers so as to create a totalitarian monarchy of sorts.
At least there was no anarchy under his rule. The senate wasn't a real senate anyway. Patritians controlled it; Plebians were bought for their votes. The entire system was corrupt, and should have been established.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
If you will so allow me, Bushsupporter, I will explore a scenario of what it would be like withouyt big buisness. I can go to a chain gorcery store and pay 50 cents a can for soup or I can go to a localy owned store and buy the same can of soup for 75 cents. Now let's say I want to buy a suit. I can got to Nordstroms and get a suit for about $600 or I can go to Kingsley Brothers that is locally ownded and pay almost $800 for the same suit. Big Buisness keep prices low.
You are quoting a man who outlawed Christianity and killed people for practicing it, took their property, and destroyed thier churches? He was also one of the most irresponsible emporers when it came to fiscal responsibility. He also stole a lot of the senate's powers so as to create a totalitarian monarchy of sorts. I don't put much credence in his thought. Just because you are an emporor of Rome doesn't make you thoughtful.
I find it humorous that you are against hig prices, as am I. I like low prices. That is what we have.
"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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