so you are for practically enslaving the workers of east asia so that the companies can squeese a little more wealth out of te populance?

"Is anyone so dull and unfeeling not to know, not to have seen, that the high prices in our markets, on which the daily life of our cities depends, are not checked by abundance or bumper crops? So abandoned is the passion for gain that men in the business...wickedly abhor the rains which make the fields fertile, for the abundance which favorable weather brings they calculate as a loss...Men with enough wealth to satisfy whole nations try to capture smaller fortunes, and strive after ruinous percentages; concern for humanity in general persuades us to set a limit to the avarice of such men."

-Diocletian-

Fundementally yes. Now the way that they are going about success is wrong, but the success is good. It is possible to have morally right labor practices and morally right business. You union slobs think that they are mutualy exclusive, an "us against them" mentality. THAT is morally wrong.

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Business is a moral value, a right or a wrong, a good or a bad. Clearly the thriving of business is right and good; there is no question about it.

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Really? So the success of business is morally good, even when it's at the expense of Malaysian sweatshop workers?

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Clearly the thriving of business is right and good; there is no question about it.

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Especially when that thriving business depends on slave labor to get its raw materials. You talk about advancement through business, but you obviously can't see that, if the governmental regulatios were taken away, we would turn around, and repeat our mistakes. There can be no benifit from human misery.

So what your argument is against business, is that 100 years ago there was a scandal. I know about all of that - I went to public school where they tied to indocrinate me, and I go to college where the assualts come in every class. Thoses things are irrelevant today, but they are also a testament to the progress of man. We have fixed problems and done things to ensure that business cannot get out of control. But your anger and hatred for business is shown clearly in your posts.

I don't know what to say about third world countries. I mean, I wish they could be more like America, but the fact is that the leaders of those nations are still stuck in the 19th Century. The steal and lie and kill and torture and rape to get more money for their palaces and black market trade. Saddam was one of them, and we have fixed that problem. The world must see the value of capitalism, or they will fail. Don't let your hate blind you, it is business that provides jobs and advancement, business that funds inventions, business that furthers our economic wealth. It is, as I have said, a moral question. Business is a moral value, a right or a wrong, a good or a bad. Clearly the thriving of business is right and good; there is no question about it.

http://tinypic.com/xr2n9
Business in politics
http://tinypic.com/xr2qf
Why we regulate business
http://tinypic.com/xr2wm
Corruption in a complaceat business

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With all the talk from the left about evil corporations and faceless demons in control of people's lives, even the title of this topic heading "Big Business" one cannot deny the greatness that we have accomplished. Huge buildings of glass, streets, sewers, all of our greatness cannot be denied.

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You cannot see the horrors of the third world, where people are enslaved so that those monstrosities can stand. And you do know that the parks and sewers and the skyscrapers were not built by private cooperations, but by the City, the Social Progressives, and Architects, right?

You obviously know nothing of history if you could speak like that...Haven't you ever heard of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory? That is what big bussiness does, along with Boss Tweed, the "Teapot Dome," "Standard Oil," and the "Copper Bosses" does to society. It causes corruption and opression of the masses, severs democracy from the working class, outlaws Unions, and lynches African American bussiness people.

http://tinypic.com/xr2a1
Women, desparately trying to flee from the 9th story of the factory, jumped to their deaths, for the doors were bolted shut from the outside by the managers
http://tinypic.com/xr2ht
What an unrestricted bussiness does(standard Oil)

Meh, my family has a busniess, so I obligated to agree.

Bushsupporter, how right you are. Without big nuisness we would be no where. We would be stuck in the state Russia is in right now.