Brehon, I've had so many similar thoughts. It's quite...sad. It's disappointing to think that even love, the ultimate goal of most lives, is just a type of neuropeptide our brains crave to receive more often. Our emotions are simply chemicals passing through our brains, created depending on our histories and patterns.

Now this is all true, but then I think, "Wait! But...but...LOVE! It's a force that we don't comprehend and that is not necessarily determined by ourselves!" And I'm glad I still feel this way, but often I think that we really are just animals who want, feel, and do according to our body's processes like those of the brain.

The human dilemma, no? Are we really so determined by the physical, or are emotions like love miracles that occur by some nonphysical force? In the end, I resort to amp's suggestion of accepting that we live this life now and that we should make the best of what we experience. For some reason, we all experience this type of life and these emotions, blame it on God or whomever you wish. But either way, this is it as far as the majority of us know and have experienced, so until I experience something totally new and unusual that may change my statements, I'm going to try to make whatever I have now as positive and enjoyable as possible.

I agree, amp. I think that we should do what we enjoy and have fun doing for as long as possible, but pondering questions like this is good for the mind, and for something my RS teacher constantly goes on about, spiritual development. Personally, I just find these questions interesting. I just wondered if anyone else had similar thoughts.

I think we shouldn't worry in the end Brehon we think we know what we experience so to that end we should experience all we can and enjoy what may or may not be. I'll tell you this mankind is so limited in his scope of vision that though there may be an awnser to that question we sure as heck won't figure it out till after the fact.

Though I will admit to wondering if my whole life is just a really long dream and if I'll wake up from a long nap in my so called "real" life when I die

I think that it is time to take this up a notch from basic sensory perception to discussing this in slightly greater depth.

To encourage this aim, therefore, some questions;

Is all the world a dream that we experiance?

Are we merely brains in jars imagining all these experiances?

Were we 'created' split seconds ago with all our memories as they are now?

This one is more complicated, perhaps I should try and explain before I ask the question. John Locke proposed that all objects have primary qualities, which were shape, weight, movement and that sort of thing; and secondary characteristics, which are things we percieve about objects, like colour and smell, which are just imaginative touches added by the imagination, so a red dress is really just a dress which our imagination 'photoshops' to appear red. Does this make any sense? Can you understand? If not, I apologise. By this, does our imagination act a film editior for us?

Enough to keep this post going for a while, perhaps...

well, if sights and sounds could be illusions, maybe the sense of touch could be an illusion...you never know....

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I've heard about something like this in the movie "what the bleep do we know".

Like from the link in the post before yours?

I've heard about something like this in the movie "what the bleep do we know". something about how we areall in our own reality and nothing that we touch is real, just to our own reality. Like if a blin person cant see something it doesnt exist until they touch it in their reality. That's bogus tho. Objective truth is truth. The tree outside isnt going to get up and move if you turn around. It's always going to be there.

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If the Earth was an illusion...would we be able to touch the components that it is made of (Earth, Fire, Water, Air)?

The world is made up of more than that, but...

Feeling something allows you to acknowledge that it's there because you've experienced it. But just because you have never seen a manta ray, for example, does not mean that it does not exist. It all comes down to your perception of reality.

If you'd like to get interested and confused by an interpretation of reality, go here .

This is probably going to sound stupid, but i mean, if an object can be touched...isn't it real? Real objects can be touched, seen, smelled, tasted, and heard. I can stand on ground, I can see the sky, I can smell the ocean, I can taste the salt in the air, and I can hear birds chirping, or waves crashing etc. These components are part of the world. Also, astronauts can see Earth when they're in space. If the Earth was an illusion...would we be able to touch the components that it is made of (Earth, Fire, Water, Air)?

The world is how we percieve it and therefore could be considered an illusion.

If a person needs proof, they'll never find it, because oftentimes the proof they find isn't enough.

Sometimes I find myself wondering if other places exist while I'm elsewhere. It's a bit like the "Does the refrigerator light REALLY go off when I close the door?"

the world is simply a hologram, none of us exist, we just appear to

I love that qoute, The Hitchhiker's Guild to the Galaxy is one of my favorite series (but I'm pretty mcuh the only person in my neighborhood that gets half the jokes because my enjoyment of british humor isn't limited to "Monty Python")

as to the Matrix I'd rather know and be able to fight back, enslavement is enslavement unknowing or not

yeah, I enjoy calling her pp,

I often wonder if the world exists myself... I am thinking it does, but if it didn't and it was like in the matrix where the real world was kinda crappy... well is it better to just not know???

pink Princess, not you. You are quite in fact, intellegent.

the world dosnt exist when ur goomin trust me!

Yuka, that is not a poem, it an extract from one of the most enjoyable and amusing books I have ever come across; namely a part of the trilogy of five of the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.

And Bella, whose stupidity?

Please, I beg of you, stop plaguing the boards with your stupidity. It would do all of our IQ levels good.

We are one mans body Adam. He's in a coma cause his girlfreind beat him w/ her lil apples. And god is giving him a vision of what is soon to be. IM SCARED>>>>NOT

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Originally posted by TalkingTomatoe:
It is known that there are an infinite
number of worlds, simply because there
is an infinite amount of space for
them to be in. However, not every one
of them is inhabited. Therefore,
there must be a finite number of
inhabited worlds. Any finite number
divided by infinity is as near to nothing
as makes no odds, so the average
population of all planets in the universe
can be said to be zero. From this,
it follows, that the population of the
whole universe is also zero,
and that any people you may meet from
time to time are merely products of
a deranged imagination.
~Douglas Adams,
"The Restaurant at the End of the Universe"


... To me, this says it all. *winks*

So, pretty much, this poem, says that the world doesnt' exist, though, that IS just one's person's point of view. This Douglas Adams must have a belief of everythign that we think of was made out of sand, and thus becomes into non-existence. Also, since our world(s) that we live in doesn't exist, then we don't exist.

Peace,
Yuka

It is known that there are an infinite
number of worlds, simply because there
is an infinite amount of space for
them to be in. However, not every one
of them is inhabited. Therefore,
there must be a finite number of
inhabited worlds. Any finite number
divided by infinity is as near to nothing
as makes no odds, so the average
population of all planets in the universe
can be said to be zero. From this,
it follows, that the population of the
whole universe is also zero,
and that any people you may meet from
time to time are merely products of
a deranged imagination.
~Douglas Adams,
"The Restaurant at the End of the Universe"


... To me, this says it all. *winks*