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Registered: December 09, 2002
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I know this is a concept that has probably been introduced at some point and then died eventually, so sorry if im reviving it but here it is: What is worth dying for? This idea was first introduced during wars, where being a soldier and dying for your country were things that were admired and respected... But now there are people that are saying no to the draft and less and less people are signing up to be in the army... What is it that has happened in time that has made what a person would die for so much more rare? Also, what would you die for? Would you die for a cure for AIDS? would you die for peace on earth forever? would you die for your little brother or sister to live? All these questions are so hard to ask, but I'd like your opinions because I've been thinking about this alot lately... Lastly, during the Vietnam War, people started saying that nothing is worth dying for. Do you agree or disagree with this statement? Why or why not?
pourquoi te plains tu? tu es bien vivant non? moi je ne suis qu'en etre flottant dans l'air, sans ni sentiment ni souffrance, juste des particules en suspension.
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Registered: December 13, 2006
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Things worth dying for: love friends family
I love to walk in the rain-no one can tell that I am crying. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend.
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Registered: August 09, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by GQTM:
Dying for you country requires a great deal of love, admiration, and respect for your country. That is something that in and of itself is becoming rarer and rarer. In order to die for something you have to love, admire, respect, and believe in it very much. In an increasingly self-centered world the things we care about so much are becoming much less broad. Only the things that immediately affect us are that important to us: friends, family, our children, belongings, perhaps even our jobs. The value of human life has also consistently increased since the first war. We've gone through slavery, feudalism, racism, sexism, holocausts, and even genocides and now the world, in general, holds the value of life above all else. Why throw it away on war? Another interesting point comes with relation to advances in technology. Technology allows us to complete more complex tasks in less time using fewer people at safer distances. War is, on a large scale, automated. Of course technology is not perfect, so soldiers are required to clean up or complete any tasks that are beyond the ability of our technology to handle safely.
*Applauds*
The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: February 07, 2005
Posts: 193
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Dying for you country requires a great deal of love, admiration, and respect for your country. That is something that in and of itself is becoming rarer and rarer. In order to die for something you have to love, admire, respect, and believe in it very much. In an increasingly self-centered world the things we care about so much are becoming much less broad. Only the things that immediately affect us are that important to us: friends, family, our children, belongings, perhaps even our jobs. The value of human life has also consistently increased since the first war. We've gone through slavery, feudalism, racism, sexism, holocausts, and even genocides and now the world, in general, holds the value of life above all else. Why throw it away on war? Another interesting point comes with relation to advances in technology. Technology allows us to complete more complex tasks in less time using fewer people at safer distances. War is, on a large scale, automated. Of course technology is not perfect, so soldiers are required to clean up or complete any tasks that are beyond the ability of our technology to handle safely.
What would you give for your kid fears?
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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I think I would die for faith. I've never believed in much of any religion, and always envied the people who could be so sure that their whole life would work out, because that's what God wanted for them. That would be something I would die for.
It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
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Registered: September 06, 2005
Posts: 115
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I think it depends on your life right now. Right now for me, I would die for a child's future, my parents, a true love (once i find it). yeah, why u ask? I don't know...it just is something i might do...i supppose.
<3 "War is not the answer" "Where is the love?" <3
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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Some people would wonder what is worth living for. Just felt like pointing that out.
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: February 05, 2005
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Anything you can achieve by death can also be achieved by other means, with a lot more effort and work, but it is possible. Thus, I think there is nothing worth dying for..
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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I would die for my family and my love ones, my friends. I would die to protect someone who was in danger, especially if it was a child. quote: I would die for my family, for my enemies.... even for strangers if it meant their lives would be spared. I'd hand over my life for my religion, for a cure for all diseases, and world peace. I'd die in general if it meant it would help the world in some way. I would give anything to help my fellow man/woman/person, within reason of the situation.
Wow...that's a lot of reasons to die for.
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: November 29, 2006
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I would die for my family, for my enemies.... even for strangers if it meant their lives would be spared. I'd hand over my life for my religion, for a cure for all diseases, and world peace. I'd die in general if it meant it would help the world in some way. I would give anything to help my fellow man/woman/person, within reason of the situation.
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Registered: July 09, 2005
Posts: 47
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I would die for Ireland, family, and my faith
"Our revenge is the laughter of our children" - Bobby Sands MP
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Registered: August 23, 2006
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well i belive in dying for your country and also your family. i do not agree that nothing was worth dying in vietnam, there was plenty of things
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Registered: August 09, 2006
Posts: 1074
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quote: Originally posted by sweetiepie20:
I say dying for the one you love is sooo sweet.
All life ends so you might as well die well because sometimes the way people view your life can be changed by the way you died. (Ex. Darth Vader killed billions under the emperor but in his last minutes he chose to save his son luke skywalker and with that action the empire crumbled, the sith order was destroyed, the jedi order was saved and finally the Force came back to balance all because Vader made one choice to redeem himself and to die so his son could live.)
The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: December 20, 2004
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I say dying for the one you love is sooo sweet.
I'm confused... about life. and life hates me.
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Registered: August 09, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by Brehon:
Knighthammer, have you read The Book of the Samurai? It might make some interesting reading for you. You have to die a lot more often for your honour than you might think...
As long as its a good death because we all die why fight to live if your just living to die?
The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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(Note: GreenLantern's alter ego is Amp) Honor I think is a rather nebulous concept that changes from person to person and moral code to moral code. The diffrences between Bushido and Chivalry for example result in diffrent concepts of honor. There's a great chapter about this topic in the book "Living the Martial Way" by Forest E. Morrgan and I highly reccomend it. Another great book for the subject of honor and bushido in particuler is Hagakure
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: January 22, 2005
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Well, GreenLantern, I suppose honour is an external sense of conscience and integrety. Outside of your own mind, this is, since hopefully you have those in your mind already.
Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
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Registered: August 19, 2006
Posts: 55
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that still doesn't awnser the question of what honor is
In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night, No Evil Shall Escape My Sight, Beware My Power, Green Lantern's Light!
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Registered: January 22, 2005
Posts: 716
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Knighthammer, have you read The Book of the Samurai? It might make some interesting reading for you. You have to die a lot more often for your honour than you might think...
Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
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Registered: August 19, 2006
Posts: 55
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but what is honor? riddle me that young sir
In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night, No Evil Shall Escape My Sight, Beware My Power, Green Lantern's Light!
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