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Picture of faerienite
Registered: August 20, 2003
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Funny, I was under the impression that the objective of WWII was to reclaim countries' status quo in regards to security and world power. Peace was not the impetus, fear was.


The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mystical. It is the source of all true art and science. --Albert Einstein
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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ooh I 've been skewered I will now take 17 hours to re-evaluate my life

But a defensive war's whole point is just that to achieve piece. In WW2 the whole goal was not to kill krauts and japs but to return the world to to peace


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by ampmaster:
which is why we have war, to achieve peace


A little 1984 Amp? Razz


draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Simple the agressors, those who harm the innocent are killed and then it's problem solved because those who made war are dead.

Also I just read back and saw I never said what I would die for

so to spell it out:
My Nation
Freedom for all peoples, of all races, of all nations
My comrades in arms
My family, my friends
Peace
and of course Love


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by ampmaster:
which is why we have war, to achieve peace


There's an oxymoron for you. How can war achieve peace? The whole point of war is to go kill people.

Don't get me wrong I'm not some peace seeking hippie/liberal, I'm just saying that war hardly ever achieves peace. A new government, sure, A religious change, sure. But i don't think in the history of the world there has been a war that ended in peace.


It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
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Registered: May 07, 2003
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something that is bigger than myself and is for the greater good


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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which is why we have war, to achieve peace


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of ladymadonna
Registered: May 01, 2006
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peace

its a bit like gandhi said, "im willing to die for peace, but im not willing to kill for it"
Picture of Anna06
Registered: March 05, 2006
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As far as what is worth dying for, it's up to person-to-person. Each of us are different, and we'd die for different things. We were not made on this earth to be the same kind of people, and die for the same thing...which would make our life so miserably boring more than anything. Our creator, God, wanted everyone to see who they are, inside of themeselves, so that we can all decide what we'd die for.

What we are worth dying for may have some impact with on how our life is treating us, an dhow we respond to that part of our life. Or, we may just choose by who we interact with, on a daily basis. Either way, everyone has a different reason to die for, which is perfectly fine.
Picture of Yuka
Registered: February 26, 2005
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Originally posted by newyorkdoll790:
Who needs action when you have words?


Actions is more powerful than words, therefore, we need more possitive actions than just talk.

Peace,
Yuka


In the End, we will remeber not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. - MLK
Picture of Brehon
Registered: January 22, 2005
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Originally posted by Euterpe:
I think a really pointless list what would, "What is not worth dying for?"

Burger King paper crowns, sandwich meats, Sharpie markers, floppy disks, checkers, Scotch tape, X-Files Season 9 DVDs, Liza Minelli, Paris Hilton's Sex Tape, cordless phones, Glade Plug-in Scented Oils.


Yes, it really would be pointless. But I would add Bonsai food, postcards and school text books.


Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
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Registered: September 29, 2004
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I think a really pointless list what would, "What is not worth dying for?"

Burger King paper crowns, sandwich meats, Sharpie markers, floppy disks, checkers, Scotch tape, X-Files Season 9 DVDs, Liza Minelli, Paris Hilton's Sex Tape, cordless phones, Glade Plug-in Scented Oils.


A lo hecho, pecho.
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Originally posted by morethansound:
ampmaster- you wouldn't die for God? He did for you.


God didn't die. Jesus died. I don't even believe in that and I know the story better than you.


draft beer not soldiers...
Picture of Maya
Registered: November 27, 2004
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I don't know what is worth dying for. I guess it changes from person to person.

But I can tell you what's NOT worth dying for and that is patriotism, Bush(for example the Iraq war, people aren't dying for a good cause, they're dying because some assholes decided to go to war, and that's very sad).

anyway...It's so easy to write on here but who really knows. I'd say like karategirl I'd die for the people I love.


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: February 18, 2004
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I'd die for those I love, my beliefs, my friends, peace, the innocent and my love. <3


Hope for the best and expect the worst............take whatever life throws at you...
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Registered: December 18, 2005
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I would only die if my love died. Without love I can't go on; it's what sustains me (sort of like vampyre with the need for life force).

With love, I am immortal!


-toodles
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Registered: April 03, 2004
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WTF then who do you think is watching over all you do now?



HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. That was priceless. I'll have to use that sometime. Way to go whatever your name is, you're on my good side. Smile


The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. - Robert Bloch
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I know he's there vut then I look at other people who say they are dying for God and really I have a hard time thinking he would want us to die for him


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: November 24, 2005
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Originally posted by morethansound:
ampmaster- you wouldn't die for God? He did for you.


WTF then who do you think is watching over all you do now?


Who needs action when you have words?
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I wouldn't die for God because I'm not sure who or what God is when I've learned more about religion maybe I'd die for God


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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