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Registered: June 28, 2003
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quote: I'm talking about people in general. You don't get addicted to what you do not allow in your life you will most likely never loose control of your tongue unless you let it loose, and you are not likely to commit fornicaiton if you keep youself from being obseesed by sex.
Basically what I am saing is that I belive, in general (there are exceptions), that people start off as a clean slate, and what ever our actions are, they become our nature.
i agree.... 
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Registered: June 28, 2003
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quote: Question for all: Is self love necessary to be a good person?
yes. LOVE is good enough... in fact, it is everything good. LOVE=GOOD=GOD 
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Registered: February 27, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by CelticNewAger: To love yourself, to respect the person near you, and to not wish evil.
Question for all: Is self love necessary to be a good person? quote: You're talking of Adam and Eve?
I'm talking about people in general. You don't get addicted to what you do not allow in your life you will most likely never loose control of your tongue unless you let it loose, and you are not likely to commit fornicaiton if you keep youself from being obseesed by sex. Basically what I am saing is that I belive, in general (there are exceptions), that people start off as a clean slate, and what ever our actions are, they become our nature.
"End Overpopulation! Support Socialized Medicine" - protestwarrior.com
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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quote: What is you definition of good?
To love yourself, to respect the person near you, and to not wish evil. quote: Our tendencies to do these things exist because we originally took no self-control to stop these things in the first place.
You're talking of Adam and Eve?
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: February 27, 2004
Posts: 193
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For each poster: What is you definition of good? For me it means to be motivated by a love for God, and a love for other people. I also belive that we are as evil as we let ourselves be. Think about it. A person will never be an achoholic unless he alows himself to get drunk, and a person will never be a sex addict unless he looks a person in a certain way. Our tendencies to do these things exist because we originally took no self-control to stop these things in the first place.
"End Overpopulation! Support Socialized Medicine" - protestwarrior.com
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Registered: December 13, 2004
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I belive human beings are born neutral. It is the environment and interaction we have as we grow that dictates and aids in who we become, whether or not we are good or evil.
"Circumstances make men, men don't make circumstances."-Heroductus
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Registered: February 18, 2004
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yeah, i mean most of us are "innocent" when we were 8 of younger. We've been corrupted by society, mainly because it's been corrupted. But i agree with his basic idea.
Hope for the best and expect the worst............take whatever life throws at you...
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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A warm heart does not get you a good job, in fact, not even good friends. You are disgusted by witchcraft because you are HIGHLY ignornant, and what I mean is you know nothing of it. If you knew, you have every right to hate it or not.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 28, 2003
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quote: I suggest you research on witchcraft. I want to be a college proffessor, not a kinder garden teacher.
oh...fine then.... but i dont need to do any research.... Witchcraft alone makes me puke. and yes, a kinder garten teacher may be nice since i love kids but you???? yo'll never pass. I mean you even aborted your own kid.  I may not pass to be a college professor but at least i got a warm heart.... not a cold one.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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I suggest you research on witchcraft. I want to be a college proffessor, not a kinder garden teacher.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 28, 2003
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quote: Witchcraft is prayer. In fact, we do it more than you do. A ritual is a prayer. Meiditation is a prayer. Know before you speak.
really? how?? by casting spells on each other?? and meditation is not only for witchcraft... anyone who can go spend some time by themselves and listen to the beating of their hearts and their surroundings where there is peace and calm and serenity, is meditation.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Witchcraft is prayer. In fact, we do it more than you do. A ritual is a prayer. Meiditation is a prayer. Know before you speak.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 28, 2003
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quote: Yeah, you know that bomb looks down at you and says "Oh wait she believes in god so i wont bomb her!"
You live in La la Land and you'll have a hard blow into reality one day. I was you, thinking life was perfect and crap.
in reality, i still find prayers really powerful... I have prayed for a lot of things... some of them didnt come true but most of it really did... i truly believe in the power of prayer... Its the strongest weapon we have these days.... unless you dont pray and you would rather do some kind of witchcraft, you would never experience the power of prayer.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Yeah, you know that bomb looks down at you and says "Oh wait she believes in god so i wont bomb her!" You live in La la Land and you'll have a hard blow into reality one day. I was you, thinking life was perfect and crap.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 28, 2003
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quote: And I'm sad the bomb in your country didn't blow up on your head.
thats because i pray and because i am such a good person. God spares those who do good. and if someone whose faith isnt strong enough, they might doubt themselves and thus would fall into some kind of danger.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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quote: really? like how are we changing when in fact, we are still on the brink of suicide attempts, kids killing kids, abortion and use of drugs... what is changing about that???
Did you see the blue thing on my post. You're supposed to click it to view the article, *******. http://skepdic.com/indigo.htmlquote: oh yeah. like being pagan... and witchcraft.
And the Christian witch burnings and the Crusades and the KKK. And I'm sad the bomb in your country didn't blow up on your head.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 28, 2003
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quote: Well, it's not happening. We are changing. In fact, there are humans who are a new race, I'm glad to say I'm part of it (born that way)...
really? like how are we changing when in fact, we are still on the brink of suicide attempts, kids killing kids, abortion and use of drugs... what is changing about that??? quote:
Religion has created evil in a way. It brought up intolerance.
oh yeah. like being pagan... and witchcraft.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Religion has created evil in a way. It brought up intolerance. quote: If humans are inherently good, why then does each generation go from bad to worse with each passing year?????
Well, it's not happening. We are changing. In fact, there are humans who are a new race, I'm glad to say I'm part of it (born that way)... the new ones....
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 28, 2003
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i agree....i think it has nothing to do with religion or spirituality... I have often thought man's evil ways are conjured up by man himself.... If the kind of environment where you are from is composed of druggists, people who discriminate other races and, pro-abortion, sex and other stuff, then sometime naturally, a person who is inherently good may become influenced by his surroundings. And hmmm.... while i was thinking more of what to say, this thought occurred to me: If humans are inherently good, why then does each generation go from bad to worse with each passing year?????
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Registered: June 09, 2003
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I don't agree, but then again, I'm not a Transcendentalist. I just happen to be an Anti-Transcendentalist. I don't remember all the beliefs of (anti)transcendentalism, but one of them for transcendentalism is that humans are born naturally good and then are corrupted. I don't agree, and besides, transendentalism is way to optomistic for me. Does anyone else know the beliefs? I'm waay too lazy to look them up.
None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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