Question:
I haven't seen one of these threads before, so I can only assume it is has been shunned or one has not been written.

The real question:

Does the world exist?

Philosophers throughout the ages have been trying to prove our existance. Such ideas as cognito ergo sum, and the prevelance of dreams, and so forth.
Go ahead, discuss!

Choices:
The world is real!
The world is an illusion.
The matrix was right all along.

 

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It;s that whole you can only use 10% of your brain thing right? maybe you can only use 10% of your brain when you are concious?

What an intresting concept...

Where I sometimes like to humor this idea, it simply does not make sense to me.

O.k. so I found this site by going to my search browser and just typing in does this world exist. I thought i was alone in this whole frame of mind. I think and think and try to rationalize this world and all that goes on here. The only thing is is that i just get lost in my thoughts and eventually end up with a headache. If I exist if anyone else exist if this idea of existance exists. It is very cool that at least someone can gather there thoughts and put them into words like you all have done here. When i try to relay my thoughts to others they end up saying "what are you even talking about". I wish i could get some closer to this subject or i fear i will go mad.

Anthony Kosinec explains how our five senses block us from perceiving the true, eternal reality, and how we can use what Kabbalists have discovered, to break through our limitations, and achieve the complete, eternal perception of reality.
http://www.kabbalah.info/engkab/kabbalah_revealed/kabbalah_revealed_2.htm

I am convinced that animals have a sense of humor. Have you ever seen the way monkeys act? They love to amuse people and make us laugh.

And yea, about the sense of creativity. Like I said before, I think the whole mystery lies in the fact that we have imagination. Its one of those things that science knows very little about it. Its fascinating. I don't really know what to make of it. How do you just acquire something like that?

Something that humans have that animals don't: a sense of creativity, in terms of artistic and aesthetic. And possibly a sense of humour, although this is not so fully evolved in some people.

well if we accept the theory that there is some form of creator in the universe and that He/She makes us perhaps it's like a memory or something of that moment when God for lack of a better term created us that drives us to look beyond

well yea, but by digging further you are exploring something. Curiosity doens't just stop as soon as you discover something.
Either way, it just seems like there must be something that humans have and animals do not. I'm think maybe its the concept of a spirit is what separates us from the rest. The fact that we have such an imagination that enables us to think beyond what is just around us. And then you gotta think, where does that all come from?

curiosity is completely diffrent from a sense of wonder. Curosity to me is what makes you explore something in the first place a sense of wonder is what makes you dig further and quest to know more

curiosity and sense of wonder are pretty much the same thing.
Intelligence, another thing animals have.

Where did Brehon go?

Curosity combined with two other things then as I see it

our intelligence which is unqiue among creation as we know it and a sense of wonder at the world around us. these three things I think are what makes us look beyond

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I've had a sleep study performed on me and portions of your brain are very active when you are asleep

Yea, I know this. But how much of your brain are you actually using compared to the 10% we use when we are awake?

And we may be gifted with curiosity, but so are animals. Our whole desperate search for meaning can't just be based upon curiosity b/c if this was the case, then why don't we see other animals out there learning anything new and developing ideas as to where they came from? Humans have evolved in their collected intelligence and scientific understanding, but the same cannot be said for... say, cats as an example. There has got to be more than curiosity that makes us look for answers and meaning.

One day I know I'm going to use that wedding crasher's line it;s just to chessey for single males to pass up

I've had a sleep study performed on me and portions of your brain are very active when you are asleep

I think the reason we want to know is that we are gifted with curiosity and from that gift we have learned and done everything you see around you. What creature who could learn so much about everything around him would not be curious as to where he himself came from and his people's history?

"I think we only use 10% of our hearts" ...lol, sorry it just reminded me of wedding crashers

But that is a good point. Maybe when we are dreaming, we are actually using 100% of our brains? Who knows right? But then again, I think we are able to track brain waves when we people are sleeping. I really have no idea about any of that, but I'm sure if you looked it up, they could tell you how much of your brain you are using.

But anyway, I just thought of a new question. Why is it that we are always trying to find out why we are here? Why are we trying to find meaning? What makes us want to know what came before? It seems like the human race has throughout all of history been so desperate to find answers to where we came from... but why do we need to know?

It;s that whole you can only use 10% of your brain thing right? maybe you can only use 10% of your brain when you are concious?

Ok, I see what you mean amp...that because our minds work in different ways when we are conscious vs. unconscious that what happens when we are un/subconscious doesn't make sense to us when we are conscious. (lol..umm i think) But the weird thing is, is that we are aware that there are other types of consciousness when we are conscious, but when it comes to being un or subconscious, the focus seems to be completely on what is happening at that time. Basically, why do we know about dreams when we are in a different state of consciousness, but don't know anything beyond what we are dreaming when we are dreaming? We know that we were dreaming once we wake up, but we don't have much of a concept of anything outside of dreams once we fall asleep. Its almost like we can't think with the same depth when we are conscious.

well the mind has several levels. the concious mind (your using this one right now) Then there's the sub-concious and the unconcious that do work but you can't utilize. These portions of our minds take over when we dream and may view things diffrently than the concious mind views things. which would explain why another reality what we call "dreams" (if dreams are indeed an alternate reality) don't make any sense to us

Philosophy is the equivalent of tripping on acid...without the side effects of course.

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Well with dreams maybe when we shift from this reality to another reality the subconcious or unconcious takes over. So that would be why we don't have any control and if our un/subconcious processes information diffrently then the consious mind that would explain why it makes no sense to us

haha...you lost me there

Kate to clarify Trippy is a reference to the wierd stuff you see when your "triping" on acid, it means strange or weird or far out.

Well with dreams maybe when we shift from this reality to another reality the subconcious or unconcious takes over. So that would be why we don't have any control and if our un/subconcious processes information diffrently then the consious mind that would explain why it makes no sense to us