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Picture of rootofevil
Registered: April 10, 2004
Posts: 439
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justsosweet, you've got to be one of the dumbest people i've ever known. we arn't mad that you criticized wavemaster's poem. we're mad that you did it in a mean way and that the comments were retarded. you actually said "What's going on here? The sunlight took hold of your sleeve and made your heart cold? A bit confused...please explain." wow, you just insulted him because you couldn't understand his metaphor. who's the one who doesn't understand poetry? cuz if you can't understand a basic metaphor then you have no room to talk. and this is just one example of all the stupid things you said. i don't even care if you're the same person as dieingrose. just stop being an ignorant fool.

and does anyone know why my previous post was randomly deleted? anyway wavemaster, why didn't you say something about the DWM thing earlier? in any case i absolutely loved your poems and i'm sure anyone who has even a basic understanding of metaphors will too.


-~[{(*if you think things are going your way, you don't have a good grasp of the situation*)}]~-
Picture of Sunset
Registered: October 17, 2003
Posts: 4607
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I say common facts to be a smart ***. I do believe that I am not an intelligent being on this planet. I have never said I was another Einstein.

I'm not good at poetry, at all. I write more paragraph and story-base pieces. I'm good at that. (Or so I believe)

I do not claim to be some great writer.

I write 'poetry' for ranting, venting purposes. Not to have them be idiolized by people.

I do have countless people tell me I'm 'good', I do not know if they're telling the truth or not. I try to write pieces that some people can relate too, and I do that by writing simple lines, stanzas (sp?),ect.
-Sunset Smile


Picture of depressedwavemaster
Registered: June 09, 2003
Posts: 5084
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JUSTSOSWEET:
Are you dyingrose or something? ya both have the same avatar, and you defend her like she's your own kin. I don't like mushy compliments. I like criticizm, but please don't ignore me when I say there is a fine line between constructive criticizm and tearing someone down. Instead telling sunset her poems are too simple and whatnot, you could tell her (in nice ways, please), how to correct that problem.
Evidence:
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Oh, and 'Sweet' and Rose. I would like to point out that there is a difference between being cruel and giving feedback



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Well you are wrong just like you are wrong about all "non-professionals" having "SIMPLE" poems.
I do agree with you there. Hell, look at my poems. Not even you could understand them. Does having poetry published make me a professional poet? Oh yeah! I's pro-fess-ee-on-ale! I's pro-fess-ee-on-ale!

Your poem had mediocre (sp?) descriptions. Where's the suppressing light? Where's the dirt between your fingers? Where's the fading breese? Where are the beautiful flowers of your mind, the story to the words? Where are you besides the garden?

We defend Sunset because she's earned our respect. How has dyingrose earned yours? Newbies, both of ya; you know nothing of each other. Earn our respect and perhaps respect shall be given. You know nothing about us or our history we've shared on these boards. Do you ignore every comment if only to shoot out poisonous barbs? You are a bard without a lyre, a poet without a scenery, a scribe without a pen. You're lacking something, the something that gives you others' respect.

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1.) Same avatar.
2.) People started to complain about you, giving you a reason to create an alternative name.
3.) Both 17 yr old females.
4.) Came to one's defensive.
5.) Write the same things (basically)



The Game

Tears,
Falling, rushing, streaming
Clouded eyes beneath clouded skies
Never to know peace again
Sobs echo in the night
Louder and louder until
All the world hears your cries
And knows your secrets as they all will die
The moon shines down in melencholy
As her tears they fill the sky
Mixed with the blood of the lost
And the memories of the slain
You laugh above the battle-field
Life is just a game

Hey, Sweet, what'ya think of that? Seriously?
Picture of Ohiosweetgirl
Registered: November 30, 2004
Posts: 4514
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This is just a stupid argument. Im done here. Ignorance does not deserve attention.


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
Picture of JustSoSweet
Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
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..no offense. What you said is common sense.

Yes and you were quite lacking of it to say such an ignorant thing. You talk so much of her poetry being simple, but she never claimed to be pro and she obviously has more talent then you or else you would try to write something. So obviously poetry isn't that simple!


Which ignorant thing? I never she was a pro. I never said I was more talented than her. And I never said I never try to write something. I do not see your point in this argument except for: you get an A for effort Sunset.


"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
Picture of JustSoSweet
Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
1.) Same avatar.
2.) People started to complain about you, giving you a reason to create an alternative name.
3.) Both 17 yr old females.
4.) Came to one's defensive.
5.) Write the same things (basically)


You may believe this if you want ... as you had believe bad poetry to be good poetry. I can't complain...it's just the way your mind functions and then come to an illusional conclusion.


"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
Picture of Ohiosweetgirl
Registered: November 30, 2004
Posts: 4514
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..no offense. What you said is common sense.

Yes and you were quite lacking of it to say such an ignorant thing. You talk so much of her poetry being simple, but she never claimed to be pro and she obviously has more talent then you or else you would try to write something. So obviously poetry isn't that simple!


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
Picture of Ohiosweetgirl
Registered: November 30, 2004
Posts: 4514
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1.) Same avatar.
2.) People started to complain about you, giving you a reason to create an alternative name.
3.) Both 17 yr old females.
4.) Came to one's defensive.
5.) Write the same things (basically)


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
Picture of JustSoSweet
Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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Originally posted by Sunset:
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as you did with most of your own poems.


Actually, I do think about each poem. If I didn't think, I wouldn't be alive. People without brains aren't alive.

Walked yourself into that one.
-Sunset Smile


That just sounded ridiculous. Thinking about writting a good piece of poetry requires an entire different level of thinking than those that actions that your brains control. And by the way, your reference to "If I didn't think, I wouldn't be alive. People without brains aren't alive." is absolutely silly. Let me just say that people in coma does not think the same way you do and yet they are alive. And obviously people without brains can not live, but pointing out such a simple fact really shows your intelligent level..no offense. What you said is common sense.


"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
Picture of JustSoSweet
Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
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Ah..I get it now. Is there a unwritten code that you people follow where you do not trust the newbies simply because they are new? Do you also defend your "friends'" comments, who has been on this forum for a while, but attack those newbies' comments? It is all clear now. Wow, this is horrible.

Haha How foolish. I never attacked your comments. And newbies have a record of making foolish mistakes such as having 2 NNs. I only say things if we have reason to believe them and we have reason to believe that you are the same. Smile


And those reasons being...?


"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
Picture of Sunset
Registered: October 17, 2003
Posts: 4607
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as you did with most of your own poems.


Actually, I do think about each poem. If I didn't think, I wouldn't be alive. People without brains aren't alive.

Walked yourself into that one.
-Sunset Smile


Picture of Ohiosweetgirl
Registered: November 30, 2004
Posts: 4514
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Ah..I get it now. Is there a unwritten code that you people follow where you do not trust the newbies simply because they are new? Do you also defend your "friends'" comments, who has been on this forum for a while, but attack those newbies' comments? It is all clear now. Wow, this is horrible.

Haha How foolish. I never attacked your comments. And newbies have a record of making foolish mistakes such as having 2 NNs. I only say things if we have reason to believe them and we have reason to believe that you are the same. Smile


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
Picture of JustSoSweet
Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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Originally posted by Sunset:
No. Because I do believe you two are the same person. Smile
-Sunset Smile


Sorry. But we are just simply not. You should not be so quick to judge without thinking..as you did with most of your own poems.


"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
Picture of JustSoSweet
Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
[QUOTE] However JustSoSweet and DyingRose are both new and nobody knows anything about them...making it seem more believable that they are the same. Smile


Ah..I get it now. Is there a unwritten code that you people follow where you do not trust the newbies simply because they are new? Do you also defend your "friends'" comments, who has been on this forum for a while, but attack those newbies' comments? It is all clear now. Wow, this is horrible.


"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
Picture of Sunset
Registered: October 17, 2003
Posts: 4607
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No. Because I do believe you two are the same person. Smile
-Sunset Smile


Picture of JustSoSweet
Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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as Sunset because you are constantly defending her.


Hah. You're funny.

We're not the same person, we're friends. We both have two different IM sns, two different xangas, etc.
-Sunset Smile


I'm funny now? That's cute. Is it as funny as when OhioSweetGirl said,"Does anyone else think that DyingRose and JustSoSweet are one in the same?" Smile


"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
Picture of Ohiosweetgirl
Registered: November 30, 2004
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We're not the same person, we're friends. We both have two different IM sns, two different xangas, etc.
Lol, not to mention in 2 different parts of the country. Smile
And it's ok sun, everyone at YN know that we are 2 completely different people. However JustSoSweet and DyingRose are both new and nobody knows anything about them...making it seem more believable that they are the same. Smile


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
Picture of Sunset
Registered: October 17, 2003
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as Sunset because you are constantly defending her.


Hah. You're funny.

We're not the same person, we're friends. We both have two different IM sns, two different xangas, etc.

You all, can we please stop the arguing. Comments are welcome. Be helpful, not cruel. Thank you.

I e-mailed Lissa and she is going to delete all of the arguemental posts.
-Sunset Smile


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Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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So what you're saying Ohiosweetgirl, is that the ONLY type of people that knows how to enjoy good poetry is someone who writes them as well? I competely disagree. I do believe that the general public do not spent a great deal on writing poetry, and yet the poems that have been published are enjoyed by those general public. You do not need to attack someone just because they make a comment on your poem.
You completely misunderstood everything that I said. I meant that alot of poems may seem simple but it's a way of expressing ourselfs and that is unique because they are our own work.None of here are professionals or even plan on becoming professionals. They write how they feel, and there is nothing simple about that. That is why I asked Dyingrose to post one by someone that isn't professional and see how "simply" it is.

Does anyone else think that DyingRose and JustSoSweet are one in the same? *shrugs* maybe it's just me.


hahaha. I knew you would think that we are the same person just because I agree with what she is saying. Well you are wrong just like you are wrong about all "non-professionals" having "SIMPLE" poems. There is a difference between GOOD poetry and PERSONAL journey type rambling...sorry to hit you with this truth. For all I know you may be the same person as Sunset because you are constantly defending her. Well, if you want a non-"simple" poem by a "non-professional" person, well here it is (I found it on this forum: everypoets.org - just in case you do not believe that it is actually by a normal "non-professional" poet like you and me:

Ground Force
In my garden there's a lesson
that's buried deep and hard to find
It's man-made, and inlaid with gold.

Colours infuse the patina
made conciously with fright
Paved over, there it chokes the rose.

Where I've weeded is suppression
the nat'ral bark has petrified
It's hardened, and the root has broke.

Fibrils distort my retina
This development needs light
I'm under, where I can't feel growth,
my stems are weak with mould.

A nice piece of poetry on a simple topic that uses appropriate vocabulary without whinning and complaining but filled with descriptive words that form a nice imagery throughout. That's all I have to say.


"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
Picture of Sunset
Registered: October 17, 2003
Posts: 4607
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Does anyone else think that DyingRose and JustSoSweet are one in the same?


No ****.

Oh, and 'Sweet' and Rose. I would like to point out that there is a difference between being cruel and giving feedback.
-Sunset Smile