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Registered: August 17, 2001
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The best poems are simplistic in nature but analytically comprehensive: "Is that for me? Your pardons reek of roses Which have burst with radiance. Not for me, I see And not for you, either."
"We know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling"
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Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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quote: Originally posted by Jenos: I am not being defensive, all works of literature need revision, even my poems, which are a few pages back. But your attitude was not that of simply suggestion, you said that the poem needed punctuation, which is entirely different.
Seeing that the comments came from me, thus makin it my opinion, I do not see how they are not considered suggestions. You are not forced to take any of my comments/suggestions into consideration. How is it entirely different? And what is the problem here?
"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
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Registered: May 03, 2003
Posts: 8901
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And you know the author did not intentionally include punctuation because?
I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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quote: Originally posted by Jenos: Writing poetry contains the freedom to include or exclude punctuation at the author's will.
I completely agree with you. However, sometimes there are just some places that need punctuation not because the author left it out purposely but had forgotten.
"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
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Registered: May 03, 2003
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Writing poetry contains the freedom to include or exclude punctuation at the author's will.
I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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quote: Originally posted by Jenos: quote: What a way to be crude. And poetry doesn't have to have perfect punctuation, it is a poem. Not a paragraph.
That is what makes it poetry.
The lack of punctuation makes it poetry?
"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
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Registered: May 03, 2003
Posts: 8901
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quote: What a way to be crude. And poetry doesn't have to have perfect punctuation, it is a poem. Not a paragraph.
That is what makes it poetry.
I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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quote: Originally posted by risika2004: Shadow
Sunken cheek bones, standing gaunt Blue veins shone through ivory sheen Revenant, lonely, hollow, looming haunt Splendor immortal from crism weaned He stares at the heavens and thinks of gods Drunk from the deathbed, a disturbed one himself Praying just a little on his ancient knees Prostate and frozen, he plans and prods Caught between eras, facing alone Poor angel of death without an Eden, white-faced wretch Living a fairy tale for so long now, he may become stone Ingesting the life breath like a lutton and a heart he must fetch Wandering wonder-beast, an enigma, at best A crisp crackle of dew mists evaportate into the sky This plethora of sins consecrate Pallid never to die Murdering eternal a servant of Death.
Praises to you. A job well done. I very much enjoyed it. However, place more punctuation in your poem ... such as the periods to end a thought. And then re-read and do some small twiking. Otherwise I think it's an overall good piece of poetry.
"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
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Registered: February 13, 2005
Posts: 43
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quote: Originally posted by JustSoSweet: I enjoyed the imagery and basic idea of this poem, however I've pointed out some things below: quote: Originally posted by depressedwavemaster:
A Day in the Orchard
The sun was shining (cliche) In the copse of apple trees, And the glittering rays (cliche) shown through your eyes They were brown and gold, As the autumn breese, Yet here we sit Deep in springtime
The wind blew through, The apple trees, change it to a period And here I sit, Gazing into your soul, And the sunlight Took hold of my sleeve And made my heart Freeze in fear, in cold (What's going on here? The sunlight took hold of your sleeve and made your heart cold? A bit confused...please explain.)
The sun was shining Through the whispering trees, (cliche) And the shining beams Caught your smile fair And the shadows shifted Across your soul free, (What do you mean by "free"?) And I wished in your beauty, I could share (share what in her beauty??)
The darkness moved (Where did the darkness come from in the first place? You seem to have skipped some information.) Away through the trees, (It moved away THROUGH the trees? that doesn't really make sense. And revealed Your beauty fey(.) And in the glittering light (cliche) In your eyes that see, (This seems very out of place. Of course her eyes can see. ) Seem so beautiful To me today (Fix your ending...it's too blunt and elementary) You have way too much repetition of And's, My's, Your's, and sunlight's. You also have many punctuation errors; mostly lacking periods. Some parts do not flow well and other parts are choppy. Re-read and revise.
"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
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Registered: February 13, 2005
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I enjoyed the imagery and basic idea of this poem, however I've pointed out some things below: quote: Originally posted by depressedwavemaster:
A Day in the Orchard
The sun was shining (cliche) In the copse of apple trees, And the glittering rays (cliche) shown through your eyes They were brown and gold, As the autumn breese, Yet here we sit Deep in springtime
The wind blew through, The apple trees, change it to a period And here I sit, Gazing into your soul, And the sunlight Took hold of my sleeve And made my heart Freeze in fear, in cold (What's going on here? The sunlight took hold of your sleeve and made your heart cold? A bit confused...please explain.)
The sun was shining Through the whispering trees, (cliche) And the shining beams Caught your smile fair And the shadows shifted Across your soul free, (What do you mean by "free"?) And I wished in your beauty, I could share (share what in her beauty??)
The darkness moved (Where did the darkness come from in the first place? You seem to have skipped some information.) Away through the trees, (It moved away THROUGH the trees? that doesn't really make sense. And revealed Your beauty fey(.) And in the glittering light (cliche) In your eyes that see, (This seems very out of place. Of course her eyes can see. ) Seem so beautiful To me today (Fix your ending...it's too blunt and elementary) You have way too much repetition of Ands and punctuation mistakes. Some parts do not flow well and other parts are choppy. Re-read and revise.
"Sisters share the scent and smells... the feel of a common childhood."
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Registered: June 28, 2003
Posts: 2745
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quote: Jamaica, they were okay. I tend to stay away from asking a lot of questions in my poetry.
thanks! It's ok though... Poetry for me is where I ask questions as well as the telling of my innermost feelings. 
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Registered: May 03, 2003
Posts: 8901
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Peace, I liked it. Sunset, very good, your poems never cease to amaze me.
I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: June 09, 2003
Posts: 5084
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peace: that was pretty good. Sun, that was really good, and sad. Jamaica, they were okay. I tend to stay away from asking a lot of questions in my poetry.
None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: June 28, 2003
Posts: 2745
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Hey Sun... I do love your "alcoholic face" poem.. It is very emotional! 
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Registered: June 28, 2003
Posts: 2745
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WHICH DO YOU LIKE BEST??? The first version or the second? thanks.
Why? By: Jamaica
Why is the world so unkind?
Why is there filth in every man's tongue?
Why is there chaos everywhere?
Why are there bombs and disasters?
Why do people hate others?
Why do we have different religions?
Why do we feel superior sometimes?
Why does everything have to be so complicated?
WHy can't some people appreciate?
Why can't we have our own rules?
WHy can't we have freedom and justice?
Why can't we just live in Peace?
Why? (Second version) By: Jamaica
Why is it so difficult? To choose the right against the wrong? Between good against evil? Why is sex so casual today? Doesn’t anyone value virginity anymore? Or is the wait for aroused passion to be quenched Too much to bear? Why is there abortion? Doesn’t anyone see beauty in the life of a newborn? Or is it because of selfishness over selflessness? Why is there abuse of drugs? Doesn’t anyone know that it makes you sick and makes you lose focus? Or is it the weakness and the fear that makes one escape reality? Why is smoking such a fad these days? Doesn’t anyone realize that it causes lung cancer and affects those around us? Or is it because of the stubbornness to listen or to care? Why do people commit suicide? Doesn’t anyone find worth in living and in themselves? Or is it because of too much peer pressure or one’s negative outlook in life? Why do people cuss? Doesn’t anyone know that it is rude and a product of bad manners? Or is it because you’d rather join the crowd and refuse to stand alone? Why are good advices plenty yet only a few heed them? Why does caring have to be instructed instead of being spontaneous? Why do many fall into temptation? In real life, there are only two choices. Tell me, Why is it so difficult To choose the right against the wrong Between good against evil?
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Registered: October 17, 2003
Posts: 4616
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Another one of my crappy poems, that I used for ranting purposes. Alcoholic Face The pain you still put me through The pain you brought back up The pain that I feel when I look into your blood shot eyes The pain of an alcoholic Staring right in my eyes Yelling slurred words Not understanding the marks you leave The marks that scar my body The marks that you leave in anger Or the marks you leave with your words Numb Not feeling the pain Not feeling the blood that drips down my arms Or the pain of the black and faded bruises on my legs Or the burning of that hand print Sprawled across my pale face Running Running from the pain The pain that you say I caused That brought you to lift up the glass Of your drunken fate No matter how many times you say you're sorry That you're sorry you strangled me the night before I still don't believe it But I come back for more The tears running down my face As I cry myself to sleep The sleep that I wish would last forever So I would never have to suffer again. -Sunset
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Registered: March 23, 2004
Posts: 430
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RockingRocking back and forth in my imaginary chair, into a wretching slience and in darkness do I stare, clutching all my broken dreams for which I used to care, rocking back and forth in my imaginary chair.
I want to be unique, just like everybody else.
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Registered: June 09, 2003
Posts: 5084
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Ever Green
Bright needles against a sunfilled sky Dim darkly in the wood, In a clearing of evergreen, The sunlight filters through the hood A single tree, a single tree, Shines brightly in the light, Green needles turning golden Someplace where there is no light Step through the eaves, the wall of green, Into the damp secrets mossy boughs bear And listen to the whisper nigh In soft secrets do you share Through the wall of needles dry The wood turns into the trees And every tall pine or cedar Have each personality Now the needles are shining red, As the haze drifts into the air, Deep within the evergreens You feel the peaceful springtime near
A Day in the Orchard
The sun was shining In the copse of apple trees, And the glittering rays shown through your eyes They were brown and gold, As the autumn breese, Yet here we sit Deep in springtime
The wind blew through, The apple trees, And here I sit, Gazing into your soul, And the sunlight Took hold of my sleeve And made my heart Freeze in fear, in cold
The sun was shining Through the whispering trees, And the shining beams Caught your smile fair And the shadows shifted Across your soul free, And I wished in your beauty, I could share
The darkness moved Away through the trees, And revealed Your beauty fey And in the glittering light In your eyes that see, Seem so beautiful To me today
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Registered: December 02, 2002
Posts: 638
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this is something i wrote last week. i guess you could call it a poem. i started typing an away message for IM, and i just kept writing until i felt like i had expressed a feeling. it's about the empty, lonely, "i miss the cast/show/rehersals" feeling and i have the week after a school play ends. this time the show was the school musical, "The Wiz". p.s. "Ease on down the road" is a song in the show, the wiz's equivilant to "follow the yellow brick road" in the wizard of oz. easin' on down the road of life i knew it had to end it gave me a reason to want to come to school and now its over back to the daily grind easin' on down the road of life all good things come to an end sometimes too soon easin' on down the road of life is easier now because that show gave me things i've never had before. now it's over, time to move on keep easin' on down that road but now there's a hole in my heart. i'm not much of a poet. that just sort of came out when i started writing.
It actually DOES say adam and steve. Thats what you get for reading the translation!
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Registered: June 09, 2003
Posts: 5084
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Take your time
None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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