I didn't agree with what that one person said about teenagers. Most of us just don't get informed. It's not like we don't care. I know a lot of people who care. And, yes, they are teenagers. So I think you should get your facts straight!!!!!

i'm with you...i also live in so cal. i understand. sometimes you just think, "wow...people are complete morons. do they not care?!? do they not think about anyone or anything but themselves?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM?!?!" sheesh! but then you have to take a step back and think, "wait... maybe they aren't THAT horrible. maybe there's SOME substance behind all the make-up and the trendyness and all the 'dudes!'" sometimes you may be surprised. there are actually INTELLIGENT young people in southern california! wow it's amazing! they may be hard to find in your area at least, but they do exist. there are tons of leadership organizations out there helping teens become more active in their communities and helping them to think for themselves. as cheesy as it may sound, it's a beautiful thing, and they do actually make a difference. so my advice to you redjill is to try not to underestimate your peers. it may be hard, but it may also be worth it. good luck to everyone in whatever you do!!!

I feel like going out in the street and start screaming "POWER TO THE TEENS!!"but who would listen other than us? I luv 2 read ur posts D. They clearly show how you feel about things and you take the time to walk over the line and take a look from the other side. I agree with Uniq, you should consider becoming a poet. I feel teens today are ignorant because their to busy playing video/computer games, watching mindless amount of time watching tv, chasing the oposite sex, and too busy worrying about shopping.(Even though all is great, it should be used with a reasonable amount of time.)When these things are taken into the extreme,there's no time left to face reality and see what's really going on in the world. Sad isn't it? Thought I'd just give you my thoughts.

---Quaji21

RIGHT ON, DANTE!! Right now, I feel like waving my hands in the air, or raising a fist and chanting some political slogan... TESTIFY!

But seriously, now, I totally know what you mean. I live in southern California, probably one of the most apathetic places in the whole United States. All kids care about here is talking about nothing (like TV shows, music, movies, their tan...), doing nothing, and thinking nothing. Punk-types are actually very scarce in my area (all those who dress punk are really wanna-bes), and goths... nuh-uh. Most everyone is trendy, says "Dude" in every other sentence, and still talks like they came from the Valley. Okay, I might offend some people here, but the adults really aren't much better. They act just like the kids, only they might care about getting that new black/white/gray luxury car (most everyone drives the same freakin' color of car!!). Politics, here? You'd hardly think the outside world existed!! And there aren't any real artists, real musicians, real intellectuals in my area of so. Cal... as one person from my school put it, we're a "cultural wasteland." You'd hardly think there was a Hollywood (less than an hour's drive, BTW), or a San Francisco, from looking at where I live!!! URGHH!!!

Unlike my neighbors, and my peers, and my parent's peers, I care. Passionately, obsessively. I stay up late at night pondering and worrying about the bigger issues; for example, worrying if we'll first become a police state, or if global warming or disease will kill most of us first. I'm what you might call a cultural pessimist. I don't like what I see now, I don't really like what I see in our possible future. But while some people on this site would get off their butts and do what they can do, I've fallen into this trap of thinking, "what can I do? I'm an insignificant person." I want to be one who revolutionizes the world with my ideas, and inspires people to action, but I feel that I live in the wrong place, the wrong time, and am the wrong sort of person to accomplish this. If I had lived in Europe about a hundred years ago and had been male, then I would have had a chance. (I get the feeling that women philosopher-types aren't taken seriously, even now.)

It seems that for people to wake up, a huge catastrophic event, bigger than 9/11, will have to occur to get people to care, and most of all, TO THINK. But maybe even then...

I would give a valid reply to this post, but I don't care enough...

I luv it when Dantae starts to rant
Yeah yeah yeah
We are, we are the youth of the nation and all that jazz
Sure some of us ar lazy, apathetic, ignorant
But did U ever stop to think that maybe
Just maybe
We like it like that
Ignorance is bliss
And if U can't change it, complain about it.
In some ways I agree w/ U completly
It is kind of depressing when you stop and think that these same boring, mindless, automatons, that we call teenageres, no, that we call our PEERS, (gasp) will one day, grow up and rule this country, or perfom brain surgery on Dantae when he finnaly goes completly out of his skull.
HEY
Maybe we should revolt
Start a nation wide protest
But who the hell would listen???


By the way
have U ever considered being a poet D.
even when U're ranting, it sounds strangly poetic

were is the youth? well sitting in front of there computers i am a new member of NOISE and i think this site is amazing i voleentered in one thing that they recommened and it was so fun i am telling all my pals about this site so they get out and make a difference too.

outie
amie

I think I know what you mean.
we are all being bombarded by ideals of what is
right. we must forget all that if we are to make a change.

there is no right way, we can only continue
to do what is right from our points of view.
if you think something is wrong, do something about it. if not, go back to sleep.

things are being done though, or so the tv tells me. I shouldn't trust it. I must walk and talk
and see for myself what is true.


--Void.

politics are corrupt. this world is corrupt. i accept this and float thru, doing only what i must til the opportunity arises to go to some other world.
today's youth is growing up too fast, yet at the same time is extremely naive. the media and technology have taken over our lives making us ignorant and unaccepting as a whole and lacking of the traits our parents had. what most people don't realize is that society and the media is generated by our parents generation. it's a sick twisted world, and it only gets worse from here.

If today's youth think politics are boring and unchangeable . . . they should do something fun, and exciting, and worth while . . .


like revolting.