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Registered: June 07, 2002
Posts: 326
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2005 Lynn:
Since i used to be a catholic for about 14 years, i remember reading somewhere that it was a sin to judge people. That the only person who can judge a person as to whether they can go to hell or heaven is god himself.
Well, i guess ur a sinner then. You can bring the salsa dip.
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Registered: June 07, 2002
Posts: 326
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good reply, Teddy. My friend does more charity work than any christian i know, never cusses, or steals or murders. Yet she is an aethiest. So i guess she can bring the doritos.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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I like Tortilla chips.. but we're going to Hell, so we can eat whatever sinful foods we want. There'll be all kinds of chips, just for you, Proteus 
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Registered: July 07, 2002
Posts: 429
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Score... barbeque for all eternity. Sounds good to me, gemini. I have one question for you though... what sort of chips?
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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If I go to Hell, I'm sure I'll be rooming next to Hitler, right? Considering I'm such a horrible person.
But hey, I'll be sure to bring some hotdogs and chips for the rest of the murders, rapists, criminals, and Atheists there.
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Registered: December 29, 2002
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How do you know they are going to Hell? Invalided answer for me: Because it says it in the Bible. Answers why I'm not going to take this answer: Please, don't say that because surely if they don't believe in God, why would they believe in the Bible? Also, I heard that answer so many times before and it doesn't convice me "He who is without sin shall cast the first shone" Your not really throwing shones but you are judging and isn't that almost the same thing? Isn't doing that wrong in God's eyes? Does God give you the knowledge to say who is and who is not going to Hell? What makes you go to Heaven and the others goes to Hell? Invalided answer for me: Because I believe in God. Reason why I'm not taking this answer: Because what if this person who doesn't believe in God was the most kindest person in the world and he/she didn't commit any of the sins that are said in the Bible but the only thing is he/she doesn't believe in God, are they still going to Hell? I guess I could take that answer though But what if you have commited sins and never wanted to be forgiven, you were cold-hearted and terrible, you killed someone but you believed in God, are you still going to heaven? Invalided answer to me: Please don't tell me whoever believes in God is good and won't commit wrong deeds. Reasons why I'm not taking this answer: Because then I will have to ask, do you know everyone in this world? Are you saying those who don't believe in God, are evil and bound to commit evil deeds? I'm just asking questions. I don't mean anything rude by this. So please don't be upset when you read this. Thanks for reading and I hope you answer Sorry for anything rude I have said Bye N Have a nice day 
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Registered: January 07, 2003
Posts: 41
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I am not bothered by Atheism. They are entitled to thier own opinion, as am I. I am bothered when they tell me that my opinion is wrong, just like I am bothered when anyone of any docrine tells me that what I believe is wrong.
I do have a religion for two reasons:
1-I'm already depressed. Believing that this is all there is would be too much. If I believe in a fantasy, then at least the fantasy makes me happy. Well, at least not quite so depressed.
2-Sure, I may be wrong...there may be no God...but what if I'm right? Okay, so that isn't actually a reason, but it is a funny situation. So I have one reason, but I am rather fond of it.
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Registered: February 26, 2003
Posts: 118
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Uh... well, then
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Registered: March 27, 2003
Posts: 7
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well i do belive in god and if you don't then yes you will go to hell but thats NOT the point. I just don't see how ANYONE could look out the window at the trees and birds and especially the sky and tell me that there is not a God. I don't treat atheist any diffrent from other people although i do belive that it is wrong. *Lynn*null
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Nah.
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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Well, you already seem to know pretty much about various religions, so there's no use in me trying to go through that. I'm not gonna condem you or judge you. You know, it's your choice to believe or not. I guess it's kida weird for people to understand that you don't believe in a God. For you see, when people pass thru troubles or pain, most people rely on God to help them thru those times. I guess that's why they find it so difficult to understand that you don't believe in a God figure. Some people might get isulted because they might feel your beliefs are some kind of threat to their beliefs. I'm not threatend by other people's beliefs myself, because like I said before, it's your choice and no one can take that away from you. I myself am a Christian, I'm not gonna tell you about the Salvation plan, because I'm sure you already know about it. It seems to me like you've already choosen and it is only up to you to change that. Good luck in life and I hope that everything works out fine for you. Take care and have a sweet day. I hope your not offended by me saying by me saying this, but God bless you. 
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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"Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation, all which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, though religion were not; but superstition dismounts all these, and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men...the master of superstition is the people; and arguments are fitted to practice, in a reverse order."
Praise the one who left you broken down and paralyzed...
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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quote: i'm not talking about the existance of a religion, i'm talking about the existence of A god
quote: ..pretend that religion is a document. The document states that God exists..
What did I miss?
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1708
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I believe that it is only a matter of time until we discover our true origins. When we do I am doubting it will be a God.
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Registered: March 21, 2003
Posts: 84
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i'm not talking about the existance of a religion, i'm talking about the existence of A god, not necessarily the Christian God, but a god in general.
the whole thing about the existance of a god goes back to how the world came to exist. where did it come from? athiests believe a bunch of different stuff other than creation, but none of it can be proven, just as they feel that creation can't be proven.
hopefully i stated myself a little more clearly this time.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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quote: so basically they are just using the same blind faith that they don't agree with. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.
Okay, pretend that religion is a document. The document states that God exists, but the defendant is unable to produce that document as evidence. The plaintiff says that there is no document. Since the document stating that god exists is unable to be produced by the defendant, the plaintiff wins. There's no proof, so no one can assume this document is real. No proof, no god.
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Registered: March 21, 2003
Posts: 84
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basically here's the problem. Athiests believe that there is no god (duh), and they say that there is no proof to prove his existence and blah blah blah, but yet they base their belief of no god, which they can't prove, so basically they are just using the same blind faith that they don't agree with. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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I guess no one can help answer my question, then...
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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quote: I think the problem with atheism is that it doesn't make sense, linguistically.
How does it not make sense? I believe it's much more feasible to disbelieve any doctrines (i.e. religion) that enforce the belief that the world was created by some omnipotent deity who just decided to create the universe. "If absolute power corrupts absolutely, where does that leave God?"
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Registered: February 15, 2003
Posts: 18
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I think the problem with atheism is that it doesn't make sense, linguistically.
God has to exist because part of the difination of God is perfection.
If God is perfect than he has to exist because existance is part of perfection.
If he doesn't exist, than he's not perfect and thus not God.
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