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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 15
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Seriously, I should be proud to be young, but I'm not. I'm associated with so many asinine mindless drones. Wheres the originality?. It's like everyone want to fit the "teen" image, which is bad, oh wait, I forgot, being a "rebel" is cool. "OM9, 1IK3 PUNK 50CK 5U132!!! That sounds pretty stupid right?, so does 90% of today's youth.
I go to school, and I am just bombarded every day with ignorance and stupidity. Everyone has to fit a trend, everyone has to fit in, everyone has to follow some bull ideology with no merits other than "This is me, I'm doing what I like". Yeah it's you, and every other teen in the nation.
And those who aren't whipped by their parents and scared,cretin's, are druggies, slackers and most likely, are grotesquely primiscuious. And don't get me started with the goth's, always ranting about conformism, when in reality, their conformists themsevles, ironic isn't it?. I won't even go into detail with the punks, fashion *****s.
They all proclaim "oh woe is me". Okay, you live for free and your parents provide you with everything, even the money to foward your ridiculous trends. You've no argument there kids.
I see kids today on MTV and other garbage networks all the time ranting about world issues and what we can do to make them better. Yeah, to bad no ones listening, "You're just a kid, what do you know". Time to find another hobbie buddy.
It's like a pestilant plague (Methaphorically speaking for those who don't possess the ability to comprehend). This youth is the same, the youth before it was, and the youth after it will be. It's sad really, how most teens are all about originality and personal beliefs when they themselves fit a trend in which millions of others belong. Hypocrisy at it's earliest stage. Next stage we have politicians and business executives but I won't get into that.
Bottom line, the youth today makes me sick. Media worship is wrong, your not original and your opinion doesn't matter. Kind of makes me question the merit in this post was, but it needed to be said nontheless.
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Registered: September 29, 2002
Posts: 4
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This is a message board for what we're doing to make change. While you have your right to hold an opinion on today's youth, I completely disagree with you, and in fact challenge you to take a look around this website, and then in your community.
I too see the apathy and carelessness that young people live with... are you working with me to change that? I really believe that the young people you describe, quite distastefully and almost hatefully, are only searching for identity and a place to stand in this world. We all go through this, no matter how much you deny it, but maybe you went through it another way -- we all grow and learn through different experiences. I wish you wouldn't judge other young people simply because they hold different beliefs, interests, or ideals than you do.
We all just need time to discover the power that being who we uniquely are gives us. These are our formative years-- let them be that without judgement from our peers. We hear enough *****ing like this from adults who forget.
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Registered: June 28, 2003
Posts: 2745
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i agree with soilwork that teens nowadays are so... liberated and stupid sometimes. I am proud to be in this age but as for being in the so called "cool" teen society, i am not. I am in nursing school and everyday, i see students hanging around smoking, using bad words, frats, tattoos and wild parties. I mean, i would have to say, even if teens are like that, i am disappointed with the people in my school because they are supposed to be associated with medicine, nursing and stuff like that but they are not promoting good values. I used to watch MTV but now i dont. I feel as if the more time flies by, the weirder and stupid and demoralizing the music videos are. Even in cartoons. They are so stupid. WHere were those good cartoons before? Like Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella and those other fairy tales? Now the cartoons are so stupid, its not even funny even its supposed to be humorous. Like those cartoons in Nicklelodeon, CArtoon Network and others. Kids do not learn properly if they watch stupid stuff and frankly, if what they watch and observe in the world now, they will be molded into that character from what they see and hear all around. The youth of today is going down and i must say, it needs all the help. I am proud of being 18, a teen but i am more proud of the way i have handled things in my life than letting teen pressures get me down. >>jam 
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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judging from what ive seen in school... teens MUST be a part of a clique. its so stupid
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Registered: May 12, 2004
Posts: 99
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CelticNewAger is pretty much right, and Marine16 would be too if his statement wasnt so extreme.
Youths are looked down upon because many of them try to be things they are not. There are kids who try to act like they are some kind of gangster rapper, or kids who call themselves "goths," and there are the girls who think of nothing else than sex. I, unlike soil, do not believe this is the way the majority of youths preform, yet it is becoming prevelant.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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i am a definite rebel then
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Registered: August 06, 2003
Posts: 29
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in a world where youths are trying to constantly prove that conformist are the devil, perhaps the the true rebel is the teenager who chooses her own identity despite what ever goes on around her. ebel is the youth who is not afraid to be expressive in various orms as the years roll by. she or he can comfortable fit into the crowd but at the same time be goth depending on their inner spirits. she is the teenager who is neither the a label because she can be a colourful person but an intellectual at the same. it is difficult to find that person thses days because everyone is in a certain crowd. the true rebel among todays youth is the on who cannot be defined and her spirit picks up what is suitable for that soul rather than what group she wants to fit into.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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quote: I am disgusted by todays youth, but one needs only to look to people like Redrepublican Esq for hope.
i just make a list
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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The Honorable Vice President, Honorable Chief Financial Officer, and Honorable Founding Father of the Honorable Coalition Announces the Following...
I am disgusted by todays youth, but one needs only to look to people like Redrepublican Esq for hope.
*This post has proudly been deemed racism free by the Honorable Coalition of Bushsupporter, Marine 16, notsojoey, FreeMarketLover, Redrepublican, Jookly, and luvabug22 in their endless pursuit to cast out the bigotry that has infiltrated youthNOISE*
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Registered: June 21, 2004
Posts: 7
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we aren't all so screwed up as you say we are, some people stand out from the crowd as just generaly kind people.
You can sterio-type people all you want but no one can be the exact replica of another, not a single person.
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Registered: July 28, 2003
Posts: 2838
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Everyone is stupid and messed up and works to much and too little. America sucks, we don't even know how to handle our rich selves. It just seems like Americans have lost sight of making life their main concern. It's so frickin busy.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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i fully agree. that's why i've become the freak. but, i dont like being a teen because not only are other teens stupid, but adults have a certain steryotype for us. in their eyes, we're rebels, ungraceful of everything, and care of nothing other than sex/fashio/music/makeup/etc (depends on teh gender). they also think we're stupid and ignorant.
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Registered: August 14, 2003
Posts: 116
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For goodness' sake. Yes, teenagers are trying to fit in...it's a totally natural thing when you're a teenager! Psychologists say that you try and find yourself in these years, so it makes sense that people are running around trying to "make a statement" or whatever. I don't see why you're so pissed off about it, you're doing the same thing. And denouncing people of your generation really doesn't make you any better of a person, or any smarter; it doesn't make your opinions any more valid. What I think is kind of cool about teenagers is that a lot of them just got into the whole "make a difference" thing and really believe in stuff that adults have long since given up. It's true that we don't really get paid attention to, especially politically, but if you don't want to completely go into a downward spiral, you've got to believe that adults will come around if you have intelligent arguments backed by solid evidence. We have to work harder to be respected, but at least when we get there we've earned it. Oh, and all that random profiling of teenagers is really arrogant. You can't put every single teenager on Earth into little labeled boxes (Metaphorically speaking in case you fail to comprehend...  ) because the people in YOUR school are like that, or that's who's on TV. You said it yourself - media worship is bad.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1704
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Whats that smell?.... O it's all the bull**** pilling up in this thread.
You say "Youth today makes me cringe". What are you an old man? Get off my sidewalk sonny!!
The thing is, young people have always been rebelious and in fact none of what you said is new within our generation.
You should stop hating kids and be one before you miss your chance.
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Registered: June 26, 2004
Posts: 9
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Personally I think you have a low self esteem. Just because you are young doesnt mean you cannot change a thing and you cannot be heard. Youth these days do have some image problems no doubt, but not all. That's why we're in a site called youthNOISE because we're making noise for change. So why the crap are you talking negative to all youth in general when there are youths like us here wanting to help. You're the kind of person holding back what we could be because your so negative towards a great change.
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Registered: June 17, 2004
Posts: 116
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SpiritGirl2259, I agree with you. I see a great argument in soilwork's post. I have thought about that a lot, especially lately. I understand that not EVERYONE watches MTV or has their parents baby them, but MOST teens/ youth are extremely co-dependent and have no clue what it's like to wonder where your next meal is coming from or how you're going to manage to pay the rent this month. Life is not easy and many of us don't know that yet. Soilwork's just trying to make you think about yourself and your friends and maybe question what you're doing and how you're living. People need to post stuff like that every once in a while just to give you a check. Don't attack him, jeez! And don't attack me for defending him! lol.
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Registered: August 25, 2003
Posts: 70
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Worth waiting for, I agree with you 100%. Soilworker, I am upset that you say youth sucks, because it really dosen't! If you would for one minute step off of your judgemental pedastol, you might be able to see the good in youth, and not focus on the negative. Like many others have said, it is people like you that make youth un-heard. Oh wait, I think I just fell out of originality, cause a couple of people have already said that. Darn *whines, and complains like soilworker* So give me a break, and chill out! You'll be doing us all a favor! 
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Registered: June 14, 2004
Posts: 2721
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And by the way, my parent's DON'T go out and buy everything for me. They buy my food and they pay the bills. But I work for my own money if I want something, I use my own money to buy it. The only time I get things from my parents is my birthday, Christmas, and Back-to-School shopping. Those are the ONLY times. My parents don't do everything for me and buy everything for me. My dad has two jobs and my mom has three---half the time I end up cooking meals for myself. But I also don't sit around and complain about this. I happen to like that I was brought up with values like this. But I'm using this to prove my point---you can't use general statements about the entire teenage population of America because there are tons of teens like me who aren't like the stereotypes you present.
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Registered: June 14, 2004
Posts: 2721
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quote: Bottom line, the youth today makes me sick. Media worship is wrong, your not original and your opinion doesn't matter. Kind of makes me question the merit in this post was, but it needed to be said nontheless.
You're right. You're absolutely right; this world has been around far too long for any of our opinions or ideas or beliefs to be completely orginial. It's impossible. But it's stupid to whine and complain about something that won't change and can't change because it's already been done. By using stereotypes and naming trends, you're already losing orginality. Why can't you call them people instead of using terms like "goth" and "punks" etc. Using labels doesn't help to end the stupidity and ignorance and unoriginality of the world. I say that you're original if you're wearing clothes you like because YOU like them and you believe in things because the idea sounds good to YOU and you form opinions based on what YOU think. If you be yourself (not "try" not "pretend") then I think you are an original person, even if there are others like you. You can still be original for yourself even if you're similar to someone else. You're right when you say that even people who say that they're doing their own thing are falling into patterns to fit in. Guess what? So are you. How can you talk about and complain about something that even YOU are doing? By whining about the youth of America, you're falling in line with a bunch of other people. Even you are doing something by posting this post that (whether consciously or subconsciously) is an effort to fit in. What I'm saying is that, you can do your own thing and do what you WANT to do because of your OWN mind and still fit in---you'll just be fitting in with other people who form their own opinions instead of going along with what other people say. Media worship is wrong. I completely agree. To watch people on TV and try to be like them is dumb because you should be yourself and nothing more. But you can't tell me that you don't have a favorite band or a favorite celebrity of some type because everyone likes at least one person in the media. Liking to watch MTV and actually imitating it are two differnt things. Not everyone who watches MTV goes out and buys a mini skirt, Ugg boots, and a CD by some crappy rapper who will only be a one hit wonder. My opinion does matter, but maybe not coming from me. My opinions are often the same as many other people's opinions, including adults that can make a difference since they're older and have more power at the moment. So my opinion matters, but it matters to me and it matters to my friends and family and to my school. And it matters to the world when coming from an adult. You can't just post general statements because life and the teenage population is complicated. You can't use labels because everyone is more than just a label whether you believe it or not. You should really look inside yourself for more depth than this before saying that the teenage population completely lacks depth---it's because of people like you.
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Registered: June 11, 2004
Posts: 202
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um i thought this was a site for youth to HELP other people so why are ppl bashing everybody and teaming up to say how some one is a whiner or that everyone else needs to get a life. i get where soil(Whatever that screen name is) is coming from. yeah youth today SUCKS. there are so many idiots at my school it's not funny. so can some of you please stop trying to defend yourself and start LISTENING
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