Why do people look to God in times of need? Why do we even believe in God? Is because people don't want to believe in the miracles of science or just because everyone needs something, anything to believe in?

people believe in god because what else is there to believe in? People of this world di** others over all the time, and sometimes its too hard to face the fact that some people are cruel and heartless, so they turn to god, a mythical creature to some, but a miracle worker to millions. god gives them faith and a reason to be good and do things for others. it may be hard for a lot of people to understand. for a long time, i doubted there even was a god. it happened so long ago, no one can prove he even exists, despite the book writen and the countless people that worship him and celebrate him. But then i relized that to be real to me, i needed everyone to believe it. and i think that is why a lot of people are skeptical of his existance. But now i relize i don't need everyone to believe in him, just as long as i do, he is there for me. he is there for all of us, wither we believe in him or not.

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mean it seems weird to me that chemicals and science can just somehow appear and create all of this, I mean nature can't think "I made grass green so I'll make grassHOPPERS green so they can blend in and be safe" how can it just happen that way? Nature doesn't think about it obviously.

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Evolution doesn't imply nature as "thinking," there are certain physical observable laws that nature holds to, but this does not implicate "thought". As for your grasshopper example, this is just an example of natural selection, its simple probability and has nothing to do with "thinking"

der, you of all people should know this.
people believe in god because it gives them something to hold on to, god is the reason why not all people do drugs or alchohal. i personally dont know what to think, but i say let the people beleive in something that cannot be proven in todays scientific world.

I know exactly what you mean. When I was younger I was all about fate and god and stuff. Now I'm I think of it more as WHAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE IN GOD?!? THE FACT THAT YOUR MOM SAID HE (or she or it) EXISTS?! WHAT KIND OF REASON IS THAT?! heh. But not like angryish or whatever. It just makes no sense to me. I mean it seems weird to me that chemicals and science can just somehow appear and create all of this, I mean nature can't think "I made grass green so I'll make grassHOPPERS green so they can blend in and be safe" how can it just happen that way? Nature doesn't think about it obviously. But then again, it's like, well where is "god" while this world is falling apart? Where was "god" during the Holocaust and during all of the wars and even where is "god" when a cat gets hit by a car? I don't know if I believe or not but I'm leaning towards no.

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wait a minute....didn't Jesus start Christianity? and wasn't Jesus Jewish? so didn't Judaism start Christianity?

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He's the reason for the initiation of the religion, yes, but Catholicism was the first and foremost Christian religion, and all other Christian denominations have branched from it.

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the" Virgin Mary" (which so can't have been tru!)

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im Jewish

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But it could have been true Elijah was taken to heaven in a fiery chariot?

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But don't forget that Catholicism started Christianity,

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wait a minute....didn't Jesus start Christianity? and wasn't Jesus Jewish? so didn't Judaism start Christianity? just wondering and, yea, wasnt it comsidered like a woman's duty 2 get as many kids w/ her hubby as she could? so the" Virgin Mary" (which so can't have been tru!) must have ended her virginity pretty soon!

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Must be the Georgia wind that freezes my ***.

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I know!

I freeze in the Georgia wind, and I got to go to Chicago for 4 years!

::Shudders::

Cookies are good. It's cold now, so I'll just stand by the oven. It feels very, very cozy. Ahhh.

Must be the Georgia wind that freezes my ***.

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I'd give you a cookie if I could. No, seriously. I'm making them now (had to do something between that 5 minute interval on not replying to one of your posts, eh?).

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My step-mother is baking cookies too :-D

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There isn't. So have I made my point?

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Just as much as I've made mine.

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I know I feel so special :-D

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You should. You're very special.

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If I argue with you for at least 50 more post do I get an award?

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I'd give you a cookie if I could. No, seriously. I'm making them now (had to do something between that 5 minute interval on not replying to one of your posts, eh?).

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On the rest of your views, They would all but unlogical if you had no faith in the deity of Christ. So I suppose there is no more point on arguing.

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There isn't. So have I made my point?

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Wow, it must be Korith's day, because most of my posts have been directed at him.

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I know I feel so special :-D
If I argue with you for at least 50 more post do I get an award?

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I don't. I was simply making a point. But don't forget that Catholicism started Christianity, because the beliefs have been transposed and sometimes modified into different factions.

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Okay, well I'm not going to try to defend the Catholics on their veiws.

On the rest of your views, They would all but unlogical if you had no faith in the deity of Christ. So I suppose there is no more point on arguing.

Wow, it must be Korith's day, because most of my posts have been directed at him.

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Ok, first I am not a catholic (why does everyone think that?)

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I don't. I was simply making a point. But don't forget that Catholicism started Christianity, because the beliefs have been transposed and sometimes modified into different factions.

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I believe Mary was nothing more then a woman God choose to carry Jesus, a kinda "Right place at the right time" but no one special beyond that really.

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Well, that's great. I personally believe Mary existed, and that Jesus was born. But I don't believe Mary was, in today's terms, a virgin. I believe she had sex and conceived Jesus; so she was the mother of a philosopher. Too bad Socrates' mom didn't get this much play.

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Mary however was a virgin before she had Jesus, and not a Virgin in the sense she was unmarried, but that she had never had sex.

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Wrong. Mary did have sex, because to have a kid, you need sperm + an egg. But Catholics (who started Christianity - which is why I'm using them as a focal point) believed sex was impure, so they promulgated that fact that Mary was sexually pure (though the bible states that she was simply unmarried).

I would like to make some observations. Mary was chosen because she was spiritually and ritualistically pure. She lived a holy and clean life. That is not to say she was sin-free because we know (contrary to Catholic claims of sinlessness) she offered the usual Mosaic sacrifices for sinners. She also later criticized her son when He was about His Father's business.

We know that Joseph was a pure man too and that he qualified to be Jesus’ step-father. So why wasn't he allowed to use his seed and then have God incarnate His Spirit into the embryo? Both Mary and Joseph were of the kingly line of David too. And where did Jesus get His Y-chromosome which determines the masculinity of a child?
All we know is that God's Holy Spirit was involved in this process of conception. If God could create Adam de novo from "dust" then obviously it would be no problem to organize a virgin birth through a single human mother. But why? Why not create Jesus the way Adam was created? Wasn't Jesus a "second Adam"?

There are major differences, of course. Adam was fully human, Jesus was not. Though initially not fallen (Adam), the human race in Jesus' time was. The raw materials were not the same. If God had created Jesus de novo (from scratch) He would not have been a "human being" like the rest of the human family because he would not have been "fallen" in the flesh, and he could not "fall" like Adam in order to become like the rest of humanity since he himself was God.

Point: "Mary ain't no Virgin, yaaaa'll. We know she be doin' it in someone else's crib, folk."

Yes. I am currently working on my Ebonic skills.

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When did I say there weren't? I'm specifically referring to the "Virgin" Mary.

Mary never had sex, so she was always a virgin (Catholics call her the ever-virgin)

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Ok, first I am not a catholic (why does everyone think that?), I believe Mary was nothing more then a woman God choose to carry Jesus, a kinda "Right place at the right time" but no one special beyond that really.

Mary however was a virgin before she had Jesus, and not a Virgin in the sense she was unmarried, but that she had never had sex.

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There are many stories in the Bible that talk about a woman losing her virginity and not getting married.

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When did I say there weren't? I'm specifically referring to the "Virgin" Mary.

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Even so, Its at best a half point, because she was soon to be married. So your talking about a "techical virgin"

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Technical. Biblical belief: Mary never had sex, so she was always a virgin (Catholics call her the ever-virgin); hence why Mary is the symbol of purity among Christians. This is because sex, as I already stated, was considered something immoral, even for married individuals.

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But Virgin does not mean what it means in contemporary English, namely, sexually untouched. The Hebrew for "virgin" is almah, meaning, "pure". She continues to be referred to the Virgin Mary by Christians even after she had increased her family so obviously she is not "virgin" in the sense of being sexually untouched.

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The bible does not say that Mary had never had sex, but was a virgin (unmarried).

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There are many stories in the Bible that talk about a woman losing her virginity and not getting married.

Even so, Its at best a half point, because she was soon to be married. So your talking about a "techical virgin"

Biblically, I sin about every 10 or 30 seconds. But in kindness terms, I harm no one, and try to be as nice as possible.

That's what messes me up.

Gem, I love you. I freakin' love you. Jen.