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Registered: May 06, 2003
Posts: 958
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SNL, religion was formed to explain things that people couldn't find an explination for but felt they needed one. "God" was created to answer people's questions..."how did we get here?" "how should we live?" "why should we live?", but a big one is probably "what happens after death?". Stuff like that.
-rito
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Registered: August 09, 2003
Posts: 1714
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quote:
Hmm, I think you guys owe the Wiccans and other pagans an apology.
I find this statement ironic sense the Wicca’s themselves have no pin point historical foundation, but is the only culture to openly admit that it is a compilation of other pagan cultures. quote:
why is every thing that is different wrong?
This is equally ironic for you to say DWM given that you are just as guilty of trying to say Christians are wrong. The best lesson we can learn from Jesus is that if you are a lair then you have no room to call someone else a lair [SPEAKING RETORICALTY!] quote:
damn, forgot for a moment there that everything i say doesnt matter, cause im gonna burn anyway.
You seem bitter. I’m sure in some other religion I will end up in a lake of fire, in one for or another. Yet I am not angry with them for condemning me. I don’t understand that mentality, you get mad as us for something we say, that you don’t even believe in. If you do not believe what you believe in is right, then why do you believe?
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Registered: August 09, 2003
Posts: 1714
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quote: And FYI: Christians get their holidays from pagan religions. Let's see.. Christmas.. oh, wait. That's pagan. Easter.. that's pagan. Halloween (stab yourself repeatedly if you did not know that).
I find it interesting people say this. With all the Jewish holidays who's to say that pagans don't steal from them? People dig as deep as they can to try disprove Christianity and when they start using this argument they start looking stupid. Simply because the date is close to another holiday does not mean it is stolen. I am sure our [America] Independence day is close to someone else's, did we still it? Of course not. Is any new nations who's Independence day close to ours stilling from us? No. Its simply the designated time chosen to celebrate a event in our history. quote: Halloween/Thanksgiving: Samhain
So what your saying here is that thanksgiving is not a Sovereign American holiday. You are full of it. This example just goes to prove everything I said. Both of these holidays are American and not Christian holidays. Thanksgiving is representative of the day when the American settlers sat and feasted with the native Indians as a sign of peace and brotherhood before deliberately giving them small pox. NOT celebrated by Christians anywhere else. Halloween is not celebrated by all Christians here in America and certainly not all Christians world wide. All of the “You steal from pagans!” argument are not only unsound, but pure speculation. The prophecies of the messiah [Jesus] predate most of all the pagan similarity’s, I.E. People claim the Virgin birth was stolen from Buddhism, when the Isaiah prophesized about it as early as 100 years before his birth. So did the Buddhist copy the Jews? I don’t think so. Mystery religions all share similarities as well, the Romans, Greek, and Egyptian mystery religions seem almost identical, yet they were this way long before the cultures ever came in contact, so to say their the same, or copied, is unsound. There will always be similarities in cultures, but to deny one culture’s sovereignty is wrong.
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Registered: June 09, 2003
Posts: 5084
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quote: And FYI: Christians get their holidays from pagan religions. Let's see.. Christmas.. oh, wait. That's pagan. Easter.. that's pagan. Halloween (stab yourself repeatedly if you did not know that).
Hmm, I think you guys owe the Wiccans and other pagans an apology.
Halloween/Thanksgiving: Samhain Christmas: Yule Groundhog's Day: Imbolc St. Patric's Day: Ostara May Day/National Day of Prayer: Beltane ones not stolen: Midsummer's Eve Lammas Mabon strangely, i didnt find one close to Easter. guess that could be Ostara or Beltane. your first lesson of the pagan holidays has finished. im not going to write more, cause that would take up a lot of space. quote: There are two kinds of people in this world:
1) Non-believers
2) People who have seen, felt, and heard the Holy Spirit of God
there are three kinds of people in this world: those who can count and those who cant. quote: If you don't have the Spirit of the Lord in you, then you are a Non-Believer and you are blind (spiritually).
i know a lot of people who are very spiritual and not christian. i know a lot of religions that are very spiritual that are [obviously] not christian. quote: Rather than submit to a false doctrine of paganism, atheism, gayism, or any other "ism,"
its not false, its different. why is every thing that is different wrong? how do you know that the christian god doesnt go by some other name or some other personification in some other land? because the bible didnt say so? the bible didnt say a lot of things that are obviously true, like the moon is actually made of rock, not cheese. if i went back in time and changed the bible to say that the moon was made of cheese, would that make it true? wait, yes of course, cause youre right, we're wrong and we're going to hell! damn, forgot for a moment there that everything i say doesnt matter, cause im gonna burn anyway. quote: THAT is the only explanation that can be given. And you can ONLY understand if you have the Spirit within you.
youre not even answering a question.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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quote: There are two kinds of people in this world:
1) Non-believers
2) People who have seen, felt, and heard the Holy Spirit of God
There are two kinds of people in this world: 1) Christians 2) People who Christians hate quote: Rather than submit to a false doctrine of paganism, atheism, gayism, or any other "ism," the Christian God will have His spirit guide us, talk to us, lead us, and inform us.
Gayism? I can't get over the fact that you're in journalism. I guess it's okay to fabricate words in Texas. Atheism is a concept; it's different from any other religion and culture; so don't even attempt to connect it with some pseudo-liberalistic hatred. And FYI: Christians get their holidays from pagan religions. Let's see.. Christmas.. oh, wait. That's pagan. Easter.. that's pagan. Halloween (stab yourself repeatedly if you did not know that). Hmm, I think you guys owe the Wiccans and other pagans an apology. quote: If you don't have the Spirit of the Lord in you, then you are a Non-Believer and you are blind (spiritually).
Ahh, but Joey.. you may not be blind spiritually, but you are realistically. Cheese and rice
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Registered: January 18, 2003
Posts: 1110
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quote: false doctrine
According to you that is.
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Registered: September 08, 2003
Posts: 2181
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Joey, do you LIKE people to sit around and jeer at you? Cause that last post is gonna give em ammunition for the next decade or so. I'm not even saying you're wrong, but maybe you could tone it down a bit. Love, Jen.
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<JoeyDauben>
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There are two kinds of people in this world:
1) Non-believers
2) People who have seen, felt, and heard the Holy Spirit of God
Now to answer your question(s), it is the true, holy spirit of God Himself manifested in us that gives us the reassurance, and the wisdom, and the courage, and the armor needed to deal with the world.
Rather than submit to a false doctrine of paganism, atheism, gayism, or any other "ism," the Christian God will have His spirit guide us, talk to us, lead us, and inform us.
THAT is the only explanation that can be given. And you can ONLY understand if you have the Spirit within you.
If you don't have the Spirit of the Lord in you, then you are a Non-Believer and you are blind (spiritually).
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Registered: February 25, 2003
Posts: 1317
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Where do you go in times of need?
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Registered: July 18, 2003
Posts: 119
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Well, I look to God for reassurance as ive seen a few miracles myself (not like ooh look at that cow fly!) but like ive felt(/seen) interaction. If you dont believe in God, and u believe the big BANG or whatever crap, how did all that get there? Well im getting a headache thinkin about all this philisilosophy lol
later
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