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Picture of lekuche
Registered: April 09, 2003
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Don't get it twisted,Everything going on in Israel isn't about religion.The problem is the issue of Land(something like ..get of my land,l got here first)Most times Religious places are not Attacked.
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Registered: September 13, 2003
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religion is one of the biggest topics right now. all that goes on in isreal is about religion.
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Registered: October 05, 2003
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Seriously these people talk about God like its a real person




No we talk about him like he's our creator.(if you didn't understand that then thats too bad.)
I belive God isn't human because he doesn't make mistakes and i believe he made this earth and all of us too.


As for all the religion threads, if you don't like them, then DON'T READ THEM! its that simple.
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Registered: September 08, 2003
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you say he does but where is your hard evidence, if this was in court your case would be thrown out.


Actually, I say he (and I use this pronoun loosely) MIGHT. I have not come to a conclusion either way.

My point is, using Santa Claus as a parallel for God in an attempt to show the idiocy of religion discounts the complexities of the topic and makes you look a bit ridiculous.

Other than that...what Gem said.

Jen.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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I think I brought up the Crusades in a different thread... Oh yeah there was once a time when religion ruled the world, it was called the Dark Ages.

Stealing phrases off bumper stickers does not make you look clever.
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During the cold war, the term "under god" was put into the pledge... If you werent a christian back then you were a pinko commie.

During the Cold War, you were either Communist or you weren't. It was NOT centered on religion. It was centered on the containment and collectivism idealisms that both countries had. Many Christians were tried for conspiring with communists and were blacklisted (like Arthur Miller). The War was not based on religion.
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The Nazis were in fact a religion of their own, they all worshipped Hitler their "father".

What the hell? The Nazis idolized Hitler because he was a great, intelligent leader and they wanted to promulgate his cause. They did not worship him as a god, Einstein. Many of them were even supposed Christians.
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Registered: December 13, 2003
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yes, please stop talking about religion. -.-
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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I think I brought up the Crusades in a different thread... Oh yeah there was once a time when religion ruled the world, it was called the Dark Ages.


During the cold war, the term "under god" was put into the pledge... If you werent a christian back then you were a pinko commie.

The Nazis were in fact a religion of their own, they all worshipped Hitler their "father".
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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a lot of us (i include myself) have talked, fought, debated, whatever about religion. ive posted a couple of boards on religions, so let me tell you why I'm fascinated by religions.

I love the fact that every single human seems to believe in something, even if that something is nothing. i believe it's some form of talent to have a faith and follow it. and thus i like talking about religion. and reading about it.

and a lot of ppl have talked about gays and lesbians here too.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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coldwar christians vs the commies.

The Cold War was just a war of tension between the United States and Soviet Union of different governmental systems. The USSR supported Communism, and the US supported Democracy. It wasn't over religion.
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WWII, nazi's vs everyone

This war was over power. The Nazis killed everyone from Jews to Catholics to Gypsies. They didn't give a **** what religion people were, because they wanted a pure, Aryan race.
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The slaughter of american indians

The slaughter of south americans

The slaughter of africans

Seriously, do you ever think about anything you post? You didn’t even mention the Crusades; seeing how that would have been some intelligent support for your argument.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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Few religions are as guilty as Islam in terms of violence caused, conquests demanded, and murders incited. By "few", I mean only the most successful dozen or so. Religion teaches and promotes peace and tolerance the way McDonald's teaches and promotes a healthy diet.
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Prove to me God exits dammit, you say he does but where is your hard evidence, if this was in court your case would be thrown out... The reason why my point is stronger by saying god doesnt exist is because we cant see, hear, smell, taste, and touch him.

As an egregious Atheist myself, I find you to be the problem. I don't agree with religion, because it causes conflict and spawns generations of undying hatred, but it also helps people cope with things, and gives them reasons to live. Therefore it does more good than harm. Your point isn't stronger than the fundamental theists who spew how god is real because humans did not evolve from nonexistent particles. You have no tangible evidence to prove yourself right, or disprove the theists wrong; thus, they are in the same situation. Just accept that people need religion and it will always exist.
Registered: April 01, 2003
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And you can't prove your negative point. What makes your lack of evidence so much more valid than mine?
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Registered: September 08, 2003
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Bauhaus, you look no more intelligent summarily dismissing all belief in God without any evidence, than the worst of the fundamentalist Christians do when asserting that everyone should agree with them because "God says so."
Registered: April 01, 2003
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All of you have misconceptions about why we establish beliefs of religion in our lives.

We all have convictions in our lives. Some people are convicted that God (or gods)are real, others are not. Some people choose to act on convictions by practicing a religion and adopting it's beliefs into their life.

Why should we not allow our convictions to guide us and give us a base of morals?

If you don't like religion, don't practice it. Don't make it so you have to be defensive about it.

Furthermore, bauhaus, do you know how foolish you look to those of us who know God exists? Right. The santa claus thing is completely different, and wrong, seeing as Saint Nicholas really did exist.
Registered: March 30, 2004
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lol!
you rock! i totally agree!
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Seriously these people talk about God like its a real person. What do you think about people who still believe in santa after the age of 13? For all you jebus freaks just put it this way. This is how us non believers see you guys:

"Santa created all of us, and I'll follow his words. Santa knows everything, If you don't believe in Santa you should start now, because thats the only way you'll be able to go to Santas work shop when you die" Now replace santa with god and workshop with heaven. Do you see how insane you people come off as?!
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