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Registered: June 04, 2004
Posts: 3
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Well, you will be soon because Flag Day is June 14th. What does the flag represent to you? Patriotism? Freedom? The power to have your voice heard? Stand up for your rights. Voting age, curfews, censorship. These things affect YOU! How much freedom do you really have? Find out what your peers think, check out these Factoids on Teen Freedom. Teens are Americans too, right? Top 10 Ways to Get the Teen Voice Heard can show you how to make a difference. Feeling political? Quiz yourself: Which Way Do You Lean?
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Registered: May 12, 2004
Posts: 99
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A breast pump with the American flag on it? Isnt that a little sad? [IMG]www.j-walk.com/blog/ images3/rwbtire.jpg[/IMG] Oh I get it. So the Tire has an american flag on it so that when it runs through the mud the American Flag gets dirty instead of the tire itself. Nothing makes a flag look better than a bunch of mayonaise in laying on it. Seriously, this is degrading to the American flag and it has to stop.
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Registered: May 12, 2004
Posts: 99
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I love the flag and I hate when I see it degraded. Wheter it be when terrorists burn it or when there are tampons that have the American Flag on them (seriously, the American flag is placed on something that gets soiled very easily.)
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Registered: June 28, 2003
Posts: 2745
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I love my country even though we have a lot of problems. Yes, i agree that even if its just a cloth placed on a pole, its so meaningful and i have always respected the flag for it represents everything about my country. I still like to sing the national anthem even if others are not singing it. Also, in cinemas, i would be proud whenever the national anthem is being played. I am also proud that my country has beautiful tourist spots and someday i would like to visit them all. Sometimes, people dont really aprreciate independence day here but well, i know in my heart, i love my country flaws and all! 
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Registered: June 24, 2004
Posts: 2
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it's enough.today there was an attact in istanbul.because bush is coming.i don't wanna see terrorısm in my beautiful country.iiiiii llllllllooooooveeeeeee TURKEY!!!!!!!!!!
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Registered: June 24, 2004
Posts: 2
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it's enough.today there was an attact in istanbul.because bush is coming.i don't wanna see terrorısm in my beautiful country.iiiiii llllllllooooooveeeeeee TURKEY!!!!!!!!!!
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Registered: June 04, 2004
Posts: 3535
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no its because North Korea wasnt under terms as Saddam was to not create WMDs. and Saddam violated it. so we enforced it. war was the answer in this case. we werent killiong Iraqis. we were killing terrorists and. beleifs that say things like, kill freedom loving people are far from somthing good.
as Thomas Jeffersn said:
"Sometimes the Tree of Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of heroes and tyrants from time to time." i hope i dont have to decipher that for all you people to understand. we do have to deal with domestic problems but to ignore international problems is bad too. if no one defended teh Iraqis then who would have??
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Registered: March 25, 2003
Posts: 99
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Exactly. We justify the war by saying he was killing his own people. But what about when we were killing our own people, when we were kicking the crap out of black people? Are you saying someone should have bombed us? Maybe, but wouldn't that make things worse, those of us non-rascists would be angry b/c our parents are dead, or b/c of the people who were actually having the crap kicked out of them are now all dead also. Yes you can use TJ's little quote of how you must kill evil people to keep liberty, but for how many years have we been trying that, and it is NOT working. How many war memorials do we have to build before were realise war is not the answere. Maybe we should all spend a year on an exchange program at an attempt of cultural understanding and realize that just like those people in Iraq have there beliefs, we have ours, and just like they're working through there problems, we are working through ours. If we care so much then why did we go into Iraq when they didn't want us. Uganda wants us, 30 kids are kidnapped there everyday (statistic from washington post) they would love our help. We want the Iraqis to leave Kuwaitt when they along w/ the other arab countries were angry b/c Kuwaitt was selling cheap oil, and those middle eastern countries who worked so hard to get their economy straight, now have there economy screwed up. But of course the US wants cheap oil. The Saudis had Iraqis on their soil but they weren't afraid of being invaded, go read their newspapers back during that time and see what they say. War is not the answer. We say we care but then why do we have people in our own country in poverty or even in others but to keep out economy straight, have farmers burn their crops and we give them money. Why can't we just give that wheat ot those poor countries, for free. Why don't we have equal education instead of basing it off of property value. What? so the parents aren't rich, so you're going to punish their kids?
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Registered: March 25, 2003
Posts: 99
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In response to "what about North Korea." The reason we haven't attacked North Korea is precisely b/c they have nuclear weapons and aren't intimidated by us. Just like we push people around, finally they won't take it and are pushing us back. I'm not saying they're good but in no way are we not attacking them b/c we're not greedy. and our "great nation" isn't perfect either. We say we fight for freedom and that's why we went to free those people from the concentration camps but how come when Jewish refugees were sent over here in a boat we sent them back even though we knew they were going to be killed. How come we blame Germany for bombing the boat Lusitania and killing Americans on board when if you look back at the newspapers before that event, there were ads in every paper telling Americans that they were bombing boats in the water. How come in the past decade, the US and Israel were the only countrys to NOT support stopping the usage of land mines. We are saying it IS OK to used them and have little kids BLOWN UP afterwards. AHHHHHH!!! We can name call and call others terrorist but it's perception that makes a person a terrorist. Our problem is misunderstanding, and some of that is b/c of to much pride. Why can't we see past these stupid boarders and nations and realize that we are all the same, no better no worse, we are the human race.
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Registered: June 04, 2004
Posts: 3535
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thats like leaving a rabbit with a lion. you know whats going to happen. the iraqi people couldnt defend themselves. if we didnt then who would????
as Thomas Jefferson once said:
"The tree of liberty must sometimes be refreshed with the blood of heroes and tyrants."
we fought for freedom. what more honorable cause is there?
*This post has proudly been deemed racism free by the Honorable Coalition of Bushsupporter, Marine16, notsojoey, FreeMarketLover, and Redrepublican. in their endless pursuit to cast out the bigotry that has infiltrated youthNOISE.*
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Registered: August 14, 2003
Posts: 6
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Registered: June 04, 2004
Posts: 3535
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thats not rue. what about North Korea? they started their nuclear weapons factories again and we arent jumping to attack them or get their weapons. as for honoring the flag. it shows reverence and respect when you honor it.
*This post has proudly been deemed racism free by the Honorable Coalition of Bushsupporter, Marine16, notsojoey, FreeMarketLover, and Redrepublican. in their endless pursuit to cast out the bigotry that has infiltrated youthNOISE.*
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Registered: April 18, 2004
Posts: 65
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quote: I'm not sure what our flag originally represented (killing natives so we can have our little superpower?) but today it doesn't mean freedom to me. I think of it as a symbol of nationalism, violence, greed, capitalism, hate, ect., which is why my flag is soaked in oil and tacked upside down to my wall.
I agree it's harsh but true. The US is a very greedy country especially when it comes to weapon power, if we here about people who are making any sort of extreme weapons any more we have to take them away and have them for ourselves. This doesn’t sound like a very nice country to live in. And people wonder why I want to move to Europe. 
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Registered: June 06, 2004
Posts: 10
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Well sadly, finn620, it seems to me that unchristian unamerican Marx-worshipping commie terroists from Mars are just the kind of people to insist on pledges. 
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Registered: September 07, 2003
Posts: 9
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I belive that the U.S. ues the Flag to say it is for pride and all this other stuff. but the real thing is it should be a choose to to stand up me personaly I would stand (  out of respect) but would not say the pledge.well the pledge is a choose. Thanks for your time. Lots Of Love
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Registered: November 30, 2003
Posts: 972
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America rules!
The Boro Mullisha Commandant
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Registered: January 16, 2004
Posts: 3993
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I think it's pointless to pledge my loyalty to a piece of cloth. I also think it is undemocratic to make kids pledge every morning like they're going to become unchristian unamerican Marx-worshipping commie terroists from Mars if they don't.
I'm not sure what our flag originally represented (killing natives so we can have our little superpower?) but today it doesn't mean freedom to me. I think of it as a symbol of nationalism, violence, greed, capitalism, hate, ect., which is why my flag is soaked in oil and tacked upside down to my wall.
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Registered: November 26, 2003
Posts: 2
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Even though it is just a cloth that people put out side or in class rooms, it has great meaning. it represents our freedom, our rights, our country, the blood we have shed for this nation and that we fight back. every morning i say the pledge to the flag because i have so much faith in it. when im fealing weak i look at the flag and say thank you for your help.. i know it may sound a little wiered but even though i am only 16 the flag has helped me make many choices it helped me through good and bad times. and now to show my respect to the flag i joined JROTC and as soon as i turn 18 im enlisting into active duty and i will either be an MP or an air born ranger, this is how i will be saying thank you to the flag. 
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Registered: March 25, 2003
Posts: 99
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When I was in 4th and 5th grade and lived on a military base, i placed a mini flag outside by the tree and would say the pledge of alligience every day. Now however, I don't. When I did I was one of the few who actually said it, others just stood up and mumbled etc. I stand up during the time they say it out of respect b/c it is their choice but I don't put my hand up or anything. The reason is b/c I view it as blind nationalism. Yes other countries have flags but they don't have pledges. I'm not going to pledge myself to a country I'm going to pledge myself to the bettering of humanity and rights for everyone everywhere. I believe the flag sets up barriers so it is much harder to see others as human beings and instead we see them as nationalities. There is a Hawaiian saying ."above all nations is humanity" I think we need to realize that. I am planning on living in the US b/c like other countries there are things wrong w/ it and I would feel if I left, that I would just be running away, but I wouldn't do it for the country, I would do it for the people living here, that the laws affect, and the laws also affect people elsewhere of diff. countries.
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Registered: June 29, 2003
Posts: 4
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i think the flag represents all the veterans tat died for this beautifull country. veterans who died so that same flag could be raised freely. It represents those people who risk there lives to come to this country. because this country is known for its chances. it represents freedom, it shows our country's history. our flag is well known threw out this world. when ever u see hardship, when ever u see non humane things happening our flag is there to fight against it Semper Fi 
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