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Registered: July 23, 2004
Posts: 138
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Walk down the street and look at all the houses and housing projects being constructed on around you. Do you think that there is really being 2 more trees planted for every tree that is being chopped down?. I don't think so. If we don't do something about this then by the year 2040 we will all be living off a oxygen tanks or "oxygen drinks".
What are your thoughts on all this construction?
I know that we need the houses because of all the people who come into our country or move from another state everyday but cant' we do something about it. What about all the stores and shopping centers being built everyday? I don't think it will hurt for us to have to drive a little further to a shopping center.
Oh but don't even get me into the pollution we are causing by using cars. By the year 2040 will be having cars in the air.
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Registered: March 13, 2002
Posts: 3477
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Currently we have an atmosphere that's about 21% oxygen. 30% less would be mean around... 15% oxygen in the atmosphere. This is enough to sustain life. Granted, it won't be as healthy and the altitude at which things can live will generally be lower, but it won't kill everything either. Actually with the trees gone, we'd have an explosion of mosses, grasses, and other such plants taht would make up for some of the slack. Of course, I'm not promoting cutting down every tree. Just straightening things out.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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quote: Sorry EarthGoddess, but about 70% of the worlds oxygen comes from aquatic algea and other non-tree plants.
You think everyone human and animal can live off of 30% less Oxygen? I don't think so.
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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Sorry EarthGoddess, but about 70% of the worlds oxygen comes from aquatic algea and other non-tree plants. After all, what do you think made our oxygen atmosphere in the first place? We could indeed live a life without trees, albeit an extremely bleak one with all sorts of other envioronmental issues.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: January 15, 2003
Posts: 3719
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quote: u know most of earths air comes from plants in tha ocean ok u could chop down every tree on earth and u wouldnt suffocate or anything
If you chopped down every tree on Earth, you'd halt the production of more then half of the world's oxygen. Yes you would suffocate, not suddenly but over time, because more oxygen will be consumed than produced.
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Registered: August 12, 2004
Posts: 44
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u know most of earths air comes from plants in tha ocean ok u could chop down every tree on earth and u wouldnt suffocate or anything
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Registered: July 25, 2004
Posts: 150
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I don't think your getting the whole idea. Houses, buildings and malls are not only made out of WOOD! There are many substitutions for wood these days. It's not like the whole house is made out of wood, the drywall isn't wood and behind that, there isn't a whole lot of wood. Look at all the buildings they are making now. They use a majority of concrete blocks and steel beams. They built my high school out of that. Actually, I don't think they used any wood at all in the making of that school. Plus they didn't cut down any trees because there weren't any to begin with. They built it on a athletic field.
Go to northern Wisconsin. You'll see farms made just for the purpose of raising "christmas" trees. Most of the land covered with trees is National Park land or whatever they call it. It's not like they can't plant more trees. I don't think you understand that. And trees is not the only thing we get oxygen from. We also get it from plants and water. Even flowers give off oxygen.
Your saying in 36 years we will not have any trees left. Look back in the 1800's. Trees was all they used to build houses because they didn;t know what else they could use. We still haven't ran out of trees. You have to think of the bigger picture. Think of how many trees would actually have to be cut down so there wouldn't be anymore.
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Registered: March 13, 2002
Posts: 3477
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As far as construction causing deforestation, you're WAAAYYYYY off.
In the US, nearly all the lumber used for construction comes from lumber company owned tree farms. And for them, if they want to keep in buisness, they HAVE to plant a tree every time they harvest one.
We're not in any danger of further deforestation here in America. Indeed there are many civic efforts to increase tree cover. Worry more about water pollution.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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talking about trees.... my backyard has beautiful trees... mango trees... mamey trees.... willow trees (i think theyre called willow, right?).... i love trees..... but no i dont hug them
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Registered: June 03, 2004
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Registered: July 15, 2004
Posts: 212
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quote: I'd love to get out of this city, would you adopt me?(i'm kidding here). In my opinion big sky-scraper like buildings in mass quantity is ugly.
I personally find lots of buildings rather beautiful. The amount of human effort and design is amazing. Ok, back on topic. Trees are being preserved in the majority of places. As I have mentioned previously, in my city trees are actuallly being planted in places that once didn't exist. You'll find that there are actually loads of strict conservation laws in the U.S. In fact most cities don't expland sideways, they go upwards now. Yes, we should continue to conserve the environment and its trees, but I really don't believe that it is a pressing matter that is bound to kill us anytime soon.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1708
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quote: Actually I could but that's beside the point.
I don't mean to sound overbearing since obviously I am not trying to make a decision for you but I really think it is not beside the point. If you have the means and ability to better your situation I think that falls into this topic well. Though I guess it is more running from a developing problem than actually fixing it if you took that route. quote: I am not proposing that we tear down my city or any other highly populated city for that matter, I am just proposing we do something about the trees and stuff. (see I am ignorant). When I am talking about trees and the lack of oxygen I am also thinking about pollution and health issues. Some food can cause health issues but so can poisioning from factories that make things that I feel are well stupid, for lack of a better word.
Yeah, I can see how those issues are closley related to each other. I think it is important to preserve the world as long as we can. Almost anyone can agree to that. It is my belief that as long as we all keep that in our minds things will only get better. Another thing to keep in mind is that humans know a lot about how to make plants grow. If we ever end up reaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllly ****ing up the enviornment I would suspect we could get it back on track as well.
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Registered: July 23, 2004
Posts: 138
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quote: (I know that kids/teens cant really just do this but you know what i mean
Actually I could but that's beside the point. quote: I feel like you are ignoring what I am saying. "things that will help us breathe or live" will not be necessary because we are not somehow running out of oxygen and we arent running out of wilderness.
I understand that you are upset living in a city made out of concrete and metal instead of trees and rocks but you must believe that most of the country is not a city. Most of the land is simply empty.
I certainly think it is better to have cities act as hubs for people and buildings allowing the rest of the land to be spacious and nice. It sounds to me that your situation may be crummy but no one is going to take down your city so I would just suggest finding a place that you enjoy more. (I know that kids/teens cant really just do this but you know what i mean)
You feel like I am going off topic and avoiding stuff? I feel like I am losing my mind, there were even. (sorry, i'm feeling a little crazy here). I am not proposing that we tear down my city or any other highly populated city for that matter, I am just proposing we do something about the trees and stuff. (see I am ignorant). When I am talking about trees and the lack of oxygen I am also thinking about pollution and health issues. Some food can cause health issues but so can poisioning from factories that make things that I feel are well stupid, for lack of a better word. Ciggarettes- A cause of death is also a very popular thing for people to smoke. I am going to stop here so that I can gather my thoughts. I know I am jumping from subject to subject and not making sense.
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Registered: July 23, 2004
Posts: 138
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quote: wait just a minute, i need to work on making my personal hole in the ozone layer for a minute here.
but if we dont make our houses out of trees what do you propose we make them out of. I've built a house and i know how much wood goes in. but there simply isnt enough steel in the world to do that in a cost effective manner. and we most certainly cant make it out of plastic. but im sure glass houses stay nice and cool in the summer. ah yes. lets make all our houses out of concrete. then we wont have to wory about hurricanes, tornadoes, flood damage, rotting, fire. why didnt we think of this sooner?
Ok Sarcastic One- ugh see I am getting myself off topic and all confused, it's pissing me off. Alot of things are running through my head right now, and I can't seem to gather my thoughts clearly. Let me just say this, I know that we can't make it out of glass or steel because those resources are running out as well, but we need to find a way to conserve our planet. Our trees, you know? I mean mars might be a great place, but that's just to far away.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1708
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quote: What will they do, create more things that will help us breathe or live on so that they can build things that will only destroy us? What happens when the things that they create to help us breathe stops working? Do we all die or do they keep creating and creating?
This country is a endless cycle of evolution. DON'T GET ME WRONG NOT ALL EVOLUTION IS BAD, BUT SOME OF IT SHOULD BE DEALT WITH TO MY SATISFACTION.
I feel like you are ignoring what I am saying. "things that will help us breathe or live" will not be necessary because we are not somehow running out of oxygen and we arent running out of wilderness. I understand that you are upset living in a city made out of concrete and metal instead of trees and rocks but you must believe that most of the country is not a city. Most of the land is simply empty. I certainly think it is better to have cities act as hubs for people and buildings allowing the rest of the land to be spacious and nice. It sounds to me that your situation may be crummy but no one is going to take down your city so I would just suggest finding a place that you enjoy more. (I know that kids/teens cant really just do this but you know what i mean)
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Registered: July 12, 2004
Posts: 179
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wait just a minute, i need to work on making my personal hole in the ozone layer for a minute here.
but if we dont make our houses out of trees what do you propose we make them out of. I've built a house and i know how much wood goes in. but there simply isnt enough steel in the world to do that in a cost effective manner. and we most certainly cant make it out of plastic. but im sure glass houses stay nice and cool in the summer. ah yes. lets make all our houses out of concrete. then we wont have to wory about hurricanes, tornadoes, flood damage, rotting, fire. why didnt we think of this sooner?
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Registered: July 23, 2004
Posts: 138
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quote: What I am saying is no, that wont happen because much of the country is aware that the enviornment is fragile and in need of regulation. The nation has many regulations in place and states also have their own rules.
You were talking originally about needing oxygen tanks to breath in 2040. I guess you are just being extreme but I dont think it is necessary to exagerate problems that are already being dealt with pretty well.
Well if it's being dealt with 'pretty well' then my area sure as hell hasn't gotten the memo. 'Pretty Well' isn't good enough. I'm not saying it has to be excellent but it should still be great. What will they do, create more things that will help us breathe or live on so that they can build things that will only destroy us? What happens when the things that they create to help us breathe stops working? Do we all die or do they keep creating and creating? This country is a endless cycle of evolution. DON'T GET ME WRONG NOT ALL EVOLUTION IS BAD, BUT SOME OF IT SHOULD BE DEALT WITH TO MY SATISFACTION. sincerly, Miss *****(Yea, I just sounded like one didn't I? I do that when I feel strongly about something.)
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1708
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quote: What I am trying to say is that tall buildings and factorys will overcome that of nature and small houses and log cabins.
What I am saying is no, that wont happen because much of the country is aware that the enviornment is fragile and in need of regulation. The nation has many regulations in place and states also have their own rules. You were talking originally about needing oxygen tanks to breath in 2040. I guess you are just being extreme but I dont think it is necessary to exagerate problems that are already being dealt with pretty well.
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Registered: July 23, 2004
Posts: 138
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quote: No way stop saying stuff like that. We are not going to somehow run out of plants.
Who said we were going to run out of them? Maybe I came on to strongly about this but we still need to do something about it. What I am trying to say is that tall buildings and factorys will overcome that of nature and small houses and log cabins.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1708
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yeah I feel for you. I love fresh air and to be honest I dont know what it is like not to have it. I would probably be a lot less happy. quote: America the beautiful is going to end up America the ugly in about 20 years if we don't save the trees. Trees and flowers are the most beautiful things.
No way stop saying stuff like that. We are not going to somehow run out of plants.
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