Question:
I recent heard of someone in califonia who doent want their child too say the pledge of alligence,b/c of the part which goes "One NationUnder God" its the part about god that he doesnt like.He is an atheist(someone who has a disbelife in a god). I ask you dou you have a problem with it? Atheist plz answer

Choices:
Yes, They need to take it out
No, It should stay
Undecided

 

"""We?"""
___It's actually incredibly funny that you should think to say that.


"""UNDER GOD STAYS OR I AIN'T PLEDGIN' ALIEGANCE"""
___Nobody cares if you say the stupid thing whether you agree with it or not. Nobody has to say or agree with it the way it is and that part of it will never change. Colonel Mustard called... he says, "Get a clue!".

We?

america doesnt need god to be "good", and we aren't great. at least not in a "good" way, so i wouldn't worry about it...you should be good to go.

It's truly amazing how often brainless conservatives throw around Jefferson, a French-loving, womanizing DEIST amateur scientist.

We say we will succeed in being a powerful, but free country, right? If we take God out of our pledge of allegiance we’ll only be destroying our country and everything our founding fathers worked so hard to achieve.
You see, the government doesn’t like to admit that we were founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But we were. Listen to a song called “We Need God In America Again” (by a Christian singer named Carman). As he says in his song we used to be a country that worshiped God, but now we’re afraid to accept Him. Did you know that 52 of our 55 founders (of the Constitution) were Christians? That’s right! Founders such as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, and First Chief Justice John J.! As it says in this song, when they sighted 27 Biblical violations they wrote the Declaration of Independence, with liberty and justice for all. Jefferson made the Bible the cornerstone for American liberty near the time of the Constitution, but we’ve strayed so far from that. James Madison said a quote that I think that those who opposed the visual monument in Alabama (and anywhere else) and the Pledge of Alliegance need to hear: “WE STAKE OUR FUTURE ON OUR ABILITY TO FOLLOW THE TEN COMANDMENTS WITH ALL OUR HEART!!!” In Washington’s farewell address it said “You can’t have nationammorality apart from religious principle” & it’s true. Just take a look at our country: there’s violence in the schools and colleges.
Read the Postlude: “Blessed is the Nation”. Or take a look at an A Beka book called “America, Land I Love”. In it they have many true facts, including the following: The Bill of Rights (which was adopted in 1791) consists of the first ten amendments to the Constitution. They list people’s individual freedoms and rights. The First Amendment says this: “Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ”. When the Christians said, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,” they simply meant there shouldn’t be any established churches that required people to pay taxes for its support. Did you know, the U.S. was the first country in the world in which they (its people) could preach and practice their faith WITHOUT ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT CONTROL. Also, did you realize that if they remove "ONE NATION UNDER GOD" they’ll be just like the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union)? That’s right! They had bronze copies of the Ten Commandments removed from school walls, village halls, and county court houses; & some communities would be forced to ban public Christmas displays showing Jesus’ birth. They claimed the U.S. Constitution established a “wall of separation” between church and state. In the 1980’s the quality of public education was so bad that police had to walk the halls to prevent drugs, violence, and theft among students. So, many parents pulled their kids out and enrolled them in private and Christian schools to protect them from physical harm. It sounds to me as if the Ten Commandments were (and still are) needed. After all our country IS crumbling. What was once a great nation sure isn’t now! Or as Mr. Tocqueville spoke of (in 1831)”America is great because America is good. When America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.” Our country needs to stop trying to remove God from our government and politics!!!
nullwe used to be a country that worshiped God,they sighted 27 Biblical violations they wrote the Declaration of Independence, with liberty and justice for all. Jefferson made the Bible the cornerstone for American liberty near the time of the Constitution,You can’t have nationammorality apart from religious principle” & it’s true. Just take a look at our country: there’s violence in the schools and colleges. Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ”. When the Christians said, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,” they simply meant there shouldn’t be any established churches that required people to pay taxes for its supportCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,” they simply meant there shouldn’t be any established churches that required people to pay taxes for its supportnullIn the 1980’s the quality of public education was so bad that police had to walk the halls to prevent drugs, violence, and theft among students. So, many parents pulled their kids out and enrolled them in private and Christian schools to protect them from physical harm.)”America is great because America is good. When America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.” Our country needs to stop trying to remove God from our government and politics!!!

"""if the kids don't have to see that in the pledge"""
___Hear it, not see. Nobody cares if you want to have a pledge about God all to yourself but if you're going to advertise your beliefs to my young children repetitively regardless of how I feel or how the child feels, I'm going to kindly ask you to shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

Well what about the adult atheists? I know that it isn't in school but dollar bills say "in God we trust." Their attitudes would be like "well if the kids don't have to see that in the pledge, then we should have to see it on the dollar bills."

"""but what about all the dollar bills?"""
___What do you mean, what about dollar bills? Public schools don't read what's written on dollar bills over the loudspeakers of our elementary schools. That's just silly.

"""somebody would want to take it off the dollar bills"""
___That person would be idiotic and unreasonable. What it says on dollar bills has nothing to do with forcing 5 year olds to partake in the monotheistic vow of loyalty every day of their educational lives.

You know how hard it is to say the pledge without "under god"? Yea over time we could get used to it but what about all the dollar bills? If they take the phrase off the pledge then somebody would want to take it off the dollar bills. Its not worth it to change all that.

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It's very obvious that the phrase "under God" is not an establishment of religion

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hmmmm, lets look at what Eisnhower said when he signed Resolution 243, "millions of our schoolchildren will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty." No, that doesn't sound like a decleration of Religion to me.

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and no one is being forced to say the pledge or believe in every word in it.

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Wheter one is forced to say it or believe it does not change the fact that it violates the Establishment clause. Just look to the case of Township vs. Schempp and you can see how this logic is wrong. Back in 1963, Pennsylvania public school students were required to read at least ten verses from the bible each day. After reading these verses the students of the Abington Township were required to recite the “Lord’s Prayer.” Students were allowed to be excluded from these practices if and only if their parents provided a note saying they didn’t want their child participating. As Justice Clark pointed out “whether or not the student could be excused from the practice did not solve the school’s problem of violating The Establishment Clause.
This could equally be applied to the current situation because whether or not one is forced to say the Pledge does not change the fact that the government is recognizing god.

HELL YEAH THEY SHOULD REMOVE IT

THAT ****ING UNDER GOD **** WAS ADDED DURRING THE 50S

I quit saying the pledge a long time ago. No one cares or says they do. When its time for the pledge of alligence, I just stand up and stare blankly at the flag.

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If you hate America so much that you cant stand to give it some ****ing respect, then get the **** outa here.

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Give me a ****ing break. Do you not see how totally wrong you saying that is? I mean, ok, America "land of the free" "freedom of speech" right? We don't have to ****ing get out, you ignorant weasel. That's the whole joy of this place. We can hate it, and still stay here, trying to change what we don't like. And furthermore, ducky, you can't really "get the **** outa [sic] here" if you're not 18...

Grow up, and think a little.

Dude? Dude.

I happen to like the pledge. Even though I still cant spell alligountce, lol, saying the pledge everyday helped instal an automatic sense of patriotism in me. I still say it everyday, even if my friends make fun. I say it like I say hi to friends, I say the pledge like you say thank you at the grocery store. Its just something I'm used to, and I respect that its stayed intact for this long. They actually added in that under god part to symbolize the religous aura following that puritan time period. I mean really, is it that big of a deal? Say it if you wanna, but I've never seen anyone yelled at not saying the pledge.
And besides, isnt the pledge supposed to stand for you everyday saying how you would devote your life to save our country? If you hate America so much that you cant stand to give it some ****ing respect, then get the **** outa here.

It's very obvious that the phrase "under God" is not an establishment of religion, and no one is being forced to say the pledge or believe in every word in it.

___I don't like any part of the pledge. It's like a pathetic attempt to mind control 5-year-olds to thinking, "Even though I can't spell or understand the word aleejinse... repeating this chant every day of my life is a great way to really prove my appreciation for my God and my Country." But oh well, forced patriotism is a little too "dark-ages" for anyone with over 3 brain cells to fall for. Besides, getting rid of the monotheism propaganda would only be the first step in igniting the wilted concept of religious freedom The United States is supposed to be so great for.

I simply omit that part. It was added in, and I take it out.