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Picture of cinderella120
Registered: November 23, 2004
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I don't see how being homosexual or bisexual can be a sin. And I think that someone needs to clear up the whole confusion about the difference between homosexual and bisexual. I am bisexual and I was called a lesbian a coulple of weeks ago and I don't see how people can associate being bisexual with with being homosexual. It just pisses me off.


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Registered: March 30, 2005
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being gay is a sin you should not be gay i am just trying to help

Honestly, you can say "It's wrong" and be done with it, but (unfortunately for those that would say that) this is America where everyone deserves equal rights. I understand that you are just trying to help, but truthfully, what does it matter to you if the people are "sinning?" I know you may want to "save" people, but there are some things that are not worth pointing to the Bible over, and, I must say, this is definately one of them. Last time I checked, "Thou shalt not be homosexual" wasn't the eleventh Commandmant.

I'd also like to mention, about the homosexuality not being normal deal, what proof have you, Darthrevan? My theatre director and his boyfriend seem perfectly normal to me. . .

Oh, and may I point out that the Greeks were way ahead of us on this front. They didn't shun homosexuals. Homosexual activity (in the males) was considered a sort of "coming of age." Thanks to North for telling me about this. (And then the wierd discovery when I was working on an Alexander the Great paper. . .)


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Picture of LoveTheRainbow
Registered: October 28, 2005
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Originally posted by Darthrevan:
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Originally posted by LoveTheRainbow:
Ignorace is a sin. You should not be ignorant. You should use proper grammar or at least periods. I'm just trying to help.

Eh, want to post a quote on that?

And, while your at it, what the answer to this question:

Why?


Post a quote on ignorance being a sin?

If thats what you mean I am being an asshole and statinging it like its some fundemental law when in reality I just made it up because I am trying to get a point across.

Sin is subjective to who ever believes it. you may consider something a sin and I don't.

I consider ignorance a sin.


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Registered: December 14, 2005
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Originally posted by LoveTheRainbow:
Ignorace is a sin. You should not be ignorant. You should use proper grammar or at least periods. I'm just trying to help.

Eh, want to post a quote on that?

And, while your at it, what the answer to this question:

Why?
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Originally posted by DolphinLover:
being gay is a sin you should not be gay i am just trying to help


Ignorace is a sin. You should not be ignorant. You should use proper grammar or at least periods. I'm just trying to help.


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Picture of Euterpe
Registered: September 29, 2004
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I'll say it again: Homosexuality IS NOT NORMAL. Normal would mean that it occurs in the largest majority of humans. Normal = having hair on your head, having an innate desire to dominate, having a survival instinct.

Homosexuality is NATURAL. It occurs freely in nature. Much like..people with two eye colors, people who are manic-depressive.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Being gay is a sin to...whom? Christians? Muslims? Atheists? Blacks? Women? Midgets? Cats?

I'd advise you to look into a little thing called "moral relativity." Once you've got that down, then we can discuss what homosexuality is. Here's a hint: it's not a sin to everyone.


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Registered: March 05, 2006
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being gay is a sin you should not be gay i am just trying to help
Picture of freedomordeath
Registered: June 02, 2004
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To settle this stupid "animals aren't homosexual" thing:

http://www.wimp.com/gaymonkeys/

See it for yourself.


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Picture of sleeprocker
Registered: July 30, 2004
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Okay, so can we just ignore this Darthrevan fellow now? Thus far all he/she's done is disclose their utmost faith in the Highest of All Learning Plains, South Park, and has proclaimed him/herself the supreme authority on All Things Normal.


I say we just go about our business. How many times has someone like this come up? How many more times must we make perfectly rational and reasonable arguments and pleas for equality, only to have them swept under the rug because someone believes "two guys fucking isn't normal"?

Please, do enlighten. Why isn't it normal? Is 6 billion not a large enough number for the world's population? Aren't there enough heterosexual people out there to keep populating and all that, not to mention enough good Christian men and women to uphold the word of their god (tm)?

And really, now that I'm on this track, have any of you seen "Saved"? There's this part at the end where the main character asks, "Why would God have made us all so beautifully different if he wanted us all to be the same?" It's a great question, and I dare anyone to answer it.
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Registered: December 14, 2004
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Because they're not normal. Guys fucking guys isn't what should be happening.


Clearly, it's normal. Isn't 5% of the population homosexual? You are allowed to be bothered by it, but it's wrong to discriminate because of it. Who are you to decide what is normal or right? Homosexuals like heterosexuals have a right to privacy, and no one should infringe upon that right.


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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Because they're not normal. Guys fucking guys isn't what should be happening.

Who determines what is normal or right? What should be happening is an opinion, and you cannot condem others based on your opinions.


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Registered: December 14, 2005
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And I have yet to understand why homosexuals should be treated as outcasts.

Because they're not normal. Guys fucking guys isn't what should be happening.
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Registered: December 14, 2004
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Of course not...You never see any gay animals, do you? And if you do, they usually are deformed, or outcasts from the rest of their group, which is how it should be.


Yes, there are animals that exhibit both homosexual and heterosexual traits. Are you aware that many homosexuals are sucessful and happy human-beings? Clearly, their sexual orientation hasn't prevented them from being successful. And I have yet to understand why homosexuals should be treated as outcasts.


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Registered: December 14, 2005
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Actually, I have. My uncle's female Jack Russel terrier was gay. She mounted my own dog (also a female) numerous times.

That doesn't mean that she was gay. Did you ever put another male dog with her? She could've just been in heat. I've seen numerous dogs fucking stuffed animals. And what about dogs that hump people's legs? Does that mean they like having inter-species sex?
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Actually, I have. My uncle's female Jack Russel terrier was gay. She mounted my own dog (also a female) numerous times.


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Registered: December 14, 2005
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Darthrevan, if being homosexual is a choice (which I highly doubt), then wouldn't that mean that being heterosexual is also a choice? You choose to be gay or straight.

Of course not...You never see any gay animals, do you? And if you do, they usually are deformed, or outcasts from the rest of their group, which is how it should be.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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People changing their minds about their sexuality all of the time.


The actions of a few do not necessarily define the group as a whole. Yeah sure, you've got people who switch every other night. (Hmm, what'll it be tonight, guy on guy or guy on girl? Or maybe guy on guy on girl! Yeeha!) But I know from talking with gay and lesbian friends that it's not so easy for everyone to do that. That gay friend I was talking to you about? He's told me many times he wishes he could be straight so he wouldn't get harassed. Believe me, the pain I see on his face is real. He can't change, as much as he wants to.


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Registered: December 14, 2004
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Course you can! Look at Michael Jackson!


Hahahaha. Good one clpo.

Darthrevan, if being homosexual is a choice (which I highly doubt), then wouldn't that mean that being heterosexual is also a choice? You choose to be gay or straight.

Personally, I do not remember having a defining moment where I thought to myself "Hmm. I'm going to go hetero". I don't know about the rest of you.

And besides, if being homosexual is a choice what would be so wrong about it?


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Picture of freedomordeath
Registered: June 02, 2004
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No one does that, unless they are BISEXUAL.

Seriously, there is no black and white - either gay or straight - there are people who are in a gray area too.


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