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<JoeyDauben>
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Out of all the things on my website, or on my profile, or in my articles I write, this message is probably the most important...

"And He said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream." - Numbers 12:6

I truly believe God predestined me to deliver messages via the written word; this would make sense considering I've been involved somehow with the newspaper business (mainly as a reporter).

A Storm is coming and it is coming quick - no, not a thunderstorm, tornado or a hurricane - much, much bigger than that; the Storm is where a third of the population gets wiped out by famine, drought and disease, where crime rates in cities reach the stratosphere, and where rampant immorality and idol worship becomes an accepted way of life. Sound familiar?

All of this IS coming and it is coming soon.

You can pass this message off as phony and as "crazy" but that's expected; Christians aren't expected to just coast right in and bring millions to Christ overnight.

That is why it is imperative that we as believers start making people aware - and the people reading this need to realize what's to come.

"About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up, who will turn their attention to the prophecies, in the midst of much clamor and opposition." - Sir Isaac Newton

Get ready, because there's a Storm headed our way.


Questions/comments: joeydauben@hotmail.com
Information: http://www.joeydauben.com
<JoeyDauben>
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The European Union now has control over NATO troops;

People, this is highly significant.

The EU is the Revised Roman Empire Revelation talks about -- the EU is to give rise to the Antichrist.

Now with the EU having a fledging army, it could pose a serious threat.

NATO fighter planes were patrolling our skies a few months after Sept. 11 - only "helping" us is what our government said.


Just thought I'd pass this along.


Sources:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com

http://www.propagandamatrix.com

http://www.infowars.com

http://www.joeydauben.com

http://www.jeremiahproject.com
<JoeyDauben>
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Rocker, thanks for pointing that out.

I'm not trying to intentionally single you out, just stating the facts as I know them.
Registered: December 03, 2002
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We're going to get into a Catholic vs. Christian-type of war pretty soon...


Well, it won't be with me, because I don't believe in any of it anyway.


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...because if RomanCatholics.com used a real Bible, then they'd know God's Holy Spirit POURS itself out onto the people - not all of them, of course, but a lot.



Romancatholics.com used the Catholic catechism. I see that you don't feel that accurately portrays the Bible - but that's a question of details. You just asked me to explain the Catholic viewpoint - not defend it or convince you it was right.
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Joey, the sheer insanity thing: Well, believing you're a messenger of God isn't exactly a common thing, so it's quite possible and rather likely that some people think you're insane (not that it's a bad thing, and I don't think you're insane, but I'm just saying...)

The heresy thing, well, how to explain. By definition, anything that goes against the Catholic Church is considered heresy. So, as I highly doubt the Church regards you as a messenger, you'd be considered a heretic. Again, not my personal belief.

Blasphemy, I may have used the wrong word, however I've looked up the definition, and one of them is: "the act of claiming for oneself the attributes and rights of God". It kinda fits, but mostly doesn't, so I'll retract the blasphemy statement.
<JoeyDauben>
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Midnight, I looked over my profile and found nothing wrong with it.

I'm not going to bend what I believe in so that you can feel "good" or "less offended."


Political Correctness is not in my forte, but hey, you're entitled to your own beliefs and views just like I am.

And if you get offended, well, then too bad really.
<JoeyDauben>
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We're going to get into a Catholic vs. Christian-type of war pretty soon...

...because if RomanCatholics.com used a real Bible, then they'd know God's Holy Spirit POURS itself out onto the people - not all of them, of course, but a lot.

If you don't have prophets, or messengers, how are people supposed to know what's gonna happen?


It's like journalists. If you don't have journalists, how are you going to find out what's going on?

Like I said, the Visions I can back up:

http://www.joeydauben.com/Visions.htm
Registered: March 04, 2002
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Bite me.



Can ya tell we're all sick of ya? mad
Registered: December 03, 2002
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As for the issue of heresy:
Heresy is defined in the Catholic Catechism as follows:
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Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same (11 CIC, can. 751)


It doesn't seem that you, Joey, are doubting or denying any truths - you've simply been accused of false propheteering.

This is all I've found so far about prophets:

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God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute a lack of responsibility.


So, God wants you to realize there IS a future, but you shouldn't be too hasty to describe what it's gonna be like.


Everything I've quoted, I took from romancatholics.com.
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Actually, to accuse you of blashphemy is incorrect: blasphemy is the act of taking the Lord's, Jesus', or any of the saints' names in vain:
Blasphemy is directly opposed to the second commandment. It consists in uttering against God - inwardly or outwardly - words of hatred, reproach, or defiance; in speaking ill of God; in failing in respect toward him in one's speech; in misusing God's name. St. James condemns those "who blaspheme that honorable name [of Jesus] by which you are called."78 The prohibition of blasphemy extends to language against Christ's Church, the saints, and sacred things. It is also blasphemous to make use of God's name to cover up criminal practices, to reduce peoples to servitude, to torture persons or put them to death. The misuse of God's name to commit a crime can provoke others to repudiate religion.

Since you did not do that, you did not commit blasphemy, and it's a good thing too, because Jesus said that blasphemers would not be forgiven in this age or the next. wink
<JoeyDauben>
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Rocker, I didn't see your post until after I posted, haha, so yeah, if you would like to clarify, go ahead.
<JoeyDauben>
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Yeah, you said Catholics would tab me as a heretic for receiving the prophetic visions - why is this?

And why is it "sheer insanity?" Or a "clear act of blasphemy?"

If you could find out, that'd be great.


And if your mom or anyone else needs where I base my "visions" from, here:

http://www.joeydauben.com/Visions.htm
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I was raised Catholic too, so anything you want to know Joey ...
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Joey, I'm not an expert on Catholicism, and I never was Catholic, however my mother is, so I've attended masses and am in a basic understanding of their beliefs. However, you asking me to fill you in is too general, is there something you are confused about, that I may be able to clarify?
<JoeyDauben>
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Okay, in a previous post (scroll down), I said I wasn't sure what's in "store" for what's to come.

What I meant to say is I am not fully, 100 percent sure when this stuff is gonna take place, but allow me to share some statistics with you:

Disease:

CIA/UN report: AIDS epidemic would cause largest loss of life in human history.

75 percent of African population south of Sahara desert could be infected; 300 million deaths by AIDS alone so far.

Famine:

UN claims 30 million in Africa are at risk of dying from the most devastating famine in this century.

Major earthquakes:

Revelation 16:18 talks about the world's largest earthquake - set to happen near the End.

Many quakes have sprung up around the globe, in places not necessarily known for them - scientific coincidence? Hmm.

There's talk of a One World Government, the revised Roman Empire coming to power with a One World Ruler - this is the European Union my friends.

This One World Government is supposed to have an army; the EU didn't have its own army - until about three weeks ago when North Atlantic Treaty Organization forces teamed up with the EU.

This is not in exact words from the Bible, but it DOES mention a revised Roman Empire, sporadic earthquakes, a huge famine and horrible diseases - and changing of weather patterns.

Also, the "increase of knowledge." Technology has just exploded in the past 10, 15 years...

These are described as growth or birth pains, Matthew 24:6.

Perhaps the biggest sign of them all is this: before this One World Ruler comes to power, the Temple Mount in Jerusalem MUST be rebuilt; as a matter of fact, according to the Jerusalem Post (their website), Jordanian engineers were called in to repair a side of the wall that had collapsed.

On the top of my head, I do not know what the Temple Mount looks like or what status its condition is in.

But Isaiah 2:2-3, Micah 4:1-2, the temple of Mount in Jerusalem will be rebuilt once more before the Time of the End.
<JoeyDauben>
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Outspoken, fill me in on this Catholic thing; I'm not educated fully in what they believe, which is why I stopped attacking them - all I'm askin for is some clarification.

I'm not expecting for everyone to stop what they're doing and automatically hide in bunkers; and I'm not predicting the end of the world.

Besides,

"...a body of men will be raised up, who will turn their attention to the prophecies, in the midst of much clamor and opposition." - Sir Isaac Newton
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Joey, darling, I really don't reccommend shouting to the world that you're God's messenger. I mean, to some, that's sheer insanity...a clear act of blasphemy to others, the Catholic church would deem you a heretic. (Yeah, yeah, I know you don't see Catholics as Christians, but please don't tell us about it anymore)

As rockrgirl mentioned, your telling us this is really getting quite old, and rather desperate. Not crazy, as there is no such thing, but annoying and pathetic.

So we all die a little, let it all start afresh. Not so terrible, really. You, my dear, need to calm down, breathe more deeply, smell some pretty flowers. It is not your fault, nor your concern.
<JoeyDauben>
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Midnight, let me know what you have a problem with and I'll try to explain.

I've actually tried to be less judgemental and condemning ...so ya, just tell me.

Dante, you can just call me Joey; I didn't mean for that to sound all cocky.

Bubbly, Christians are supposed to love all kinds of people, even non-believers. Even if you were mean, that doesn't mean you necessarily have to be Christian.

Also, I'm not predicting the end of the world; if someone tells you an exact date as to when that will be, chances are they are incredibly deceived.

There are many events happening right now that should be a cause for alarm;

I'm not exactly sure what's in store, but I do know something will be happening; it could be World War III, a nuclear bomb going off, or something to this effect:

http://www.joeydauben.com/Pray1.htm

Anyway, I'm not trying to cause a massive scare - just trying to tell people to be prepared.
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Out of curiosity, do Christians believe that you have to be Christian to be a good person? I mean I am not Christain but I consider myself to be a good person. Does that mean I'll be taken away by the "storm?" Also, aren't there always people saying the world is going to end soon? Why should we take those claims seriously when the world seems relatively intact after each declaration that the world is going to end?
Registered: December 22, 2002
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okay um Sir, not to totally make fun of your prophecy thing, thats cool i guess. but i had a question about your profile thing, could you be any more close minded? My religon is very unique, i practice wicca and lutheranism. I realize most people, wiccans and christians, would consider that impossible, but it works for me. For someone who considers themselves God's messenger, maybe you should work alittle harder on being less judgemental.
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