Christians are committing spiritual suicide. It seems as though none of them remember who they are, who they are supposed to be. Perversion and corruption is their preference, and evil should be their name. They no more care about doing right, but wait for their next chance to do what is wrong. They do not ask God anymore, “What can I do?”, instead they demand, “Do more for me!” We willfully pollute holy ground, and nourish quick sand deserts of hate.

Mercy is appalling to us, and peacemaking is wicked. Our once greatest strength of submissiveness has been replaced with tyranny. A man sues us for our cloak and we defend it ardently, a man asks of us to walk with him a mile, and we refuse to budge. We are never rich enough in our own eyes, so we never have any to spare, for the ones who have none. We are all Judges, too righteous in our own eyes to be judged. Hedonist gluttons have become the ones we envy. I have heard Christians encouraging murder, even of children (abortion) and wage unjust war.. I have heard them encourage adultery, rape, and incest.

When will this stop? How much longer can we tolerate this? Is there no one else as ashamed as I am?

dadof4 Catholics use the Bible and the Bible clearly states the only way to heaven is through Christ.John 3:16
What do you believe is the way to heaven?

whitney 25 in the fifth reply from the top you basically said that the only way to heaven is by god but i totally disagree with that because im catholic and my fiance is wiccan and i hate it that she is but i still believe that she is going to heaven so stop saying that dumb s h i t

I agree with karen, there's a saying it's, "Hate the sin, not the sinner." It tells you that you don't have to agree with what others are doing, but you can still love them.

God didn't rape those girls or kill people , people did non christian people

Also not all Christians are saying tht all muslims are responsible. We do have a close mind about what we believe is right but we shouldn't have a close mind about accepting people who want help.

I think it is way wrong to say that all Christians are hypocrites. no Christian should be hypocritical because if our goal is to lead people to Christ which is the only way to heaven do we really believe non christians really want to be around those who are hypocritical.

I don't think i have found the one and only way to worship God. So why does everyone else? There are so many different rels. if God wanted everyone to be the same she wouldn't have given us free choise. Just as long as you honestly think you are being the best you , you can be , and following common sense, I think she'll be ok with that.

didn't we have a long drawn out convo about what "christians" were?

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It's really quite sad that many Christians are leading bad examples. If more Christians truly followed the Bible's advice and God's words about how to live, the world would be such a better place. I believe that the most important verse in the Bible is where Jesus told us to "love one another". Many self-proclaimed Christians are so judgemental of non-Christians and homosexuals and races and many other things. However, judging others is the most un-Christian thing someone can do. The Bible says to "love one another", not "only love Christians". It tells us to love EVERYONE! its also really sad that many non-Christians see Christians who are not following the Bible and they assume that all Christians are like that.

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It's really quite sad that many Christians are leading bad examples. If more Christians truly followed the Bible's advice and God's words about how to live, the world would be such a better place. I believe that the most important verse in the Bible is where Jesus told us to "love one another". Many self-proclaimed Christians are so judgemental of non-Christians and homosexuals and races and many other things. However, judging others is the most un-Christian thing someone can do. The Bible says to "love one another", not "only love Christians". It tells us to love EVERYONE! its also really sad that many non-Christians see Christians who are not following the Bible and they assume that all Christians are like that.

i hope that all of you Christians here can make a little extra effort to love everyone you meet. if we as Christians really loved others like Jesus loves us, then more people would be drawn to Christ and see that being a Christian is not about going to church or reading the bible or praying, but that it's about Jesus and how much he loves us.

Okay, they werre several ponts made here I just have to add to.
Firstly, whether you're born gay, or it's because you had a bad relationship with your dad, or whatever, BEING gay is not in itself a sin; it's having sex with someone of your gender.
Secondly, the church shouldn't have to conform to today's standards of what's right and what's wrong. Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ and the Lord, not today's teen.
Thirdly, mankind doesn't get to Heaven by being good; we're saved by the Lord's grace, we don't earn it. Humans are fallen creatures; we sin. But if you have the Lord in your heart, you begin to question your actions; "Would He do this?" "What would He do in this situation?" And so on.

Wow... how dare someone criticize the christians.. how dare. But its ok to think that Islam is horrible and that all muslims are terrorist right?

How dare he criticize a religion? Everyone has that right. He is doing something about it by having a serious debate about it. Well, it was serious until you barged in.

You are disgracful! I am also a christian. How dare you critisize a religion. Some other religions let men beat or even kill their wives but i don't see you giving them heck. If you don't like whats going on in a religion then don't follow it's rules.Also stop asking when it will stop, do something about it!

Korith:

What a lovely post.

I agree with you. One of the main things that turned me away from Christianity (though by far not the only) was the lack of adherence to things many of them claimed to believe.

In my Morality class in my Catholic highschool, I was berated for being Pagan and speaking up for my beliefs when I was a non smoker, non drinker, at that point had not had sex, and loved my parents and generally obeyed them. And yet the Christians in my class, many of who had very promiscoious sex on the weekends, got drunk (and DROVE drunk), and used many different drugs and called their parents horrible things were the darlings of my teachers because they were Christian. I used to snort and say if I were Christian, I'd be a saint compared to you guys.

It's perhaps the biggest complaint from non-Christians is that we are constantly being told we are wrong, we'll go to hell, blah blah, but yet the one's preaching are the ones fornicating with each other like rabbits, destroying marriages!

Thank you for your insightful post.

Yes, the christians...or ((hypocrites)) in our society are critical...what you can do is make it obvious you're not one of them. You're a dying breed I suppose ::applause::

The topic, she lives! Lives!!!

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KingNazgul, your entire argument is based around the Bible.

The topic is essentially Christianity and it's adherents.

Many times I have seen people send sharply barbed insults toward those who mention the Bible when speaking as Christians in Christian topics. Insults as a whole do not help anyone improve debate skills, but when the posts are focused on certain topics, I feel that such insults against those who say things relevant to the topic are particularly out of place. In many cases Christians; in other cases, other things. It is insulting those who not only believe what they say, but also say it where it is relevant to the topic.

I revived the topic for this reason. I was reading and found it, having noticed it happening before. Aquagon, please don't think I'm doing this to spite you. You just happened to decide to post here using those words and I just happened to search for posts by Korith and I found it.

Aside from that, it's a very interesting topic with quite a debate surrounding it here. I found it worth reviving.

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Yet again I don't see why everyone is generalizing "Christian". There are numerous sects when it comes to Christianity, so if you have a big problem with it, it's probably because you have only been witness to one of the sects.

Truth. I would write something more upbeat to give you my opinion of this, but it's 2:30 here.

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Well ever since 9/11 has happen'd the world is blaming all muslims. And just about every "christain" I know is blame every muslim, and even the muslim religion.And the bible say we are suppose to love one another... How are christians suppose to do that, If christians are so close minded....

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Yet again I don't see why everyone is generalizing "Christian". There are numerous sects when it comes to Christianity, so if you have a big problem with it, it's probably because you have only been witness to one of the sects. And as for the quote above. I'm a Christian, but I don't feel that way towards Muslims. I love other religions and cultures because it makes me respect them. I've always been taught to treat everyone and their beliefs with respect, and that is it what I do.

And another thing...not directed to anyone...why don't people get that 9/11 had nothing to do with MUSLIMS! The people associated are terrorists! There is a difference people! I've done a project about this in school, and I'll say exactly what I said then. When the KKK emerged they did many wrong doings and associated themselves as a Christian group, but when they were talked about in the media, them being Christian never came up. So why in the world do people associate Islam with 9/11?

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Islam and New Age are the fastest growing among teens. That's a shame.

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yeah, right. you dont even know what new age is and youre saying that. your confusing it with wicca. a lot of teens who are mad at their parents go to wicca (to fall for fake authors, like ravenwolf, poor them). of course, there are exceptions, teens who do take such religion seriously, but its not common.