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Picture of Gothrockerchic
Registered: April 18, 2004
Posts: 65
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I do volenteer work for the local animal shelter here in town, and there is a petition I want as many people to sing as possable! You would not only be helping me out by singing this, but it will bring us one step closer to stoping animal abuse.

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Harsher punishments need to be given to animal abusers. I am writing a
letter everyday to one elected official until something is done about this
injustice. Most offenders get off with merely a slap on the wrist. An
example of such horrific occurences can be found at http://www.geocities.com/doglucy4justice/
You can help by signing this petition and forwarding to to everyone you
know. Please support this issue so that change can be brought about. We
cannot allow these injustices to continue!

"None left to rescue, none left to buy, none left to suffer, none left to
die. None to be beaten, none to be kicked...all must be loved and all must
be fixed". Author Unknown "He is your friend, your partner, your defender,
your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader, the center of his
universe. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his
heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion. " Anonymous

The following is a petition hosted by e-thePeople. If you want to sign
this petition, follow the link at the bottom of this email.
To sign this petition, visit:
http://www.e-thepeople.org/a-1/petition/11527/sign



Thanx for your help! Smile
Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
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Most of us who feel nothing when watching animals being slaughtered are not cold and heartless towards animals,


You rang? in fact I happily kill, skin, field strip, cook and eat my own animals so not only do I watch slaughter house videos I will in fact study them for technique pointers


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6058
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It MEANS U really don't care about ANIMALS!!


Ah, thank you. I hadn't realized.

I'm here because it makes me smile to see people get so worked up by my cynicism. If you can't handle one guy on a message board, how are you going to deal with the hundreds of people worse than me in the real world?


The more you know, the less you don't know.
Picture of EarthGoddess
Registered: January 15, 2003
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this is a website where everyone has a right to voice their own personal opinion, be it for or against.
Picture of animalhugger
Registered: May 27, 2007
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By clpo13
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Anyways, I have indeed seen slaughterhouse pictures. I've watched PETA's videos, but none of it really bothers me. Don't know why, but oh well.


YOu guys are stupid if you don't care about the petition why would you be on the page trashing people and a subject that you don't even care about
Picture of animalhugger
Registered: May 27, 2007
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Thanks cbrandy for not totally trashing me too
Picture of EarthGoddess
Registered: January 15, 2003
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Originally posted by cbrandy:


It MEANS U really don't care about ANIMALS!!!U should'nt even been on this page!!! Roll Eyes Mad


So what? And this is a website where everyone has a right to voice their own personal opinion, be it for or against. Most of us who feel nothing when watching animals being slaughtered are not cold and heartless towards animals, we're just tougher than you. Smile
Picture of cbrandy
Registered: April 14, 2007
Posts: 79
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Originally posted by clpo13:
Um, does anyone else think it's strange how animalhugger rips on what I said half a year ago and then compliments my picture?

Anyways, I have indeed seen slaughterhouse pictures. I've watched PETA's videos, but none of it really bothers me. Don't know why, but oh well.


It MEANS U really don't care about ANIMALS!!!U should'nt even been on this page!!! Roll Eyes Mad


RECYCLE PLEASE!!!!
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6058
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Um, does anyone else think it's strange how animalhugger rips on what I said half a year ago and then compliments my picture?

Anyways, I have indeed seen slaughterhouse pictures. I've watched PETA's videos, but none of it really bothers me. Don't know why, but oh well.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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that by the way had no reason to die except for that someone was hungry


Eh...it's called survival. I think it would be bad if we killed just for the pleasure of killing and just let the meat rot. If it's for eating and because someone is hungry, than it makes sense.


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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I mean if you have ever seen pictures of slaughter houses or dead animals ,that by the way had no reason to die except for that someone was hungry, you wouldn't like meat so much.


I've seen some of the most disgusting and brutal slaughterhouse images you can think of. I've also seen videos of people slaughtering pigs by slitting their throats and letting them bleed out and a video of a turkey getting its head chopped off and flapping around for a few minutes. Does it make like meat less? NO. Because I'm not a vagina.

Death is a part of nature. Killing to feed ourselves is a part of nature. We're no different from a Puma mauling a toddler to death because it was hungry.


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I miss eating meat but im happy im like this because I'm saving animals lives.



Not the animals that were plowed into the earth to harvest your fruits and veggies, build your home, your school, your entire city...

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Picture of animalhugger
Registered: May 27, 2007
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Hey clpo13 i love your picture
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Registered: May 27, 2007
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Hey cplo13 do you have any clue what you are saying? You sound so stupid! Meat is good, you are right but think about the animal that it came from. That poor cow or turkey or chiken that was slaughtered because you were hungry. My dad is a hunter and my mom grew up on a farm where they slaughtered there own animals. So I grew up around all of that but when i ate meat I felt guilty. I love animals and I know that it has been this way since the beginning of time but, things are changing now. I mean if you have ever seen pictures of slaughter houses or dead animals ,that by the way had no reason to die except for that someone was hungry, you wouldn't like meat so much. I miss eating meat but im happy im like this because I'm saving animals lives. THey can't speak for themselves that is why we are here. Well kind of.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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I like knowing where it comes from and what goes into my body, i'm not into all these preservatives and additives,


Perhaps you didn't understand me: cloned meat is natural. It has no preservatives. It is the same stuff that comes from animals, simply without the animal. And you can't seriously tell me that animals aren't natural.

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No but the more people who "simply dont eat meat" the better the effect on the environment.


In order to do that, every single man, woman, and child on earth would have to abstain from meat. This planet has a penchant for fixing itself. The efforts of a relatively small group of people (that is to say vegans) will not significantly affect the ecosystem of an entire planet.

Besides, getting people to give up meat does nothing. The negative effects on the environment that you speak of are caused by the meat industry. You'd have to get rid of that whole industry, which is impossible because any amount of legislation would be blocked by lobbyists. And even if you took down the meat industry, you'd still have independent farmers to deal with. Finally, if you somehow managed to eliminate every cattle farm in existence...you'd still have thousands of other things that are detrimental to the environment. You'd have to get rid of the car industry, the tobacco industry...heck, you'd have to dispose of industry entirely! In order to eliminate all negative effects on the environment, you'd have to revert humanity to a state of existence akin to that of 500 years ago. I don't know about you, but I'd rather that not happen.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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And in reference to shampoo or what, everything and anything, shampoo, body wash, shaving foam, blah blah ...


I tend to use natural products if that was what you were asking


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of VeganCath
Registered: December 14, 2006
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Originally posted by ampmaster:
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And we can not survive for much longer with such things as factory farming, because it's destroying our environment.


right so your new strategy is to ignore information that invalidates your claims and come back with what seems to be a random disconnected sentance? I agree factory farming is bad though, free range tastes much better.

Oh and I apologise that I didn't adress this earlier

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also question what kind of products you use on your body


what exactly are you asking here? are you talking about shampoo or what?



I'm not disconnescting, I'm advancing. Anything you can say I will attempt to connect to, or make a point from, isnt that what debating is, I'm trying to fight for my side.


And in reference to shampoo or what, everything and anything, shampoo, body wash, shaving foam, blah blah ...
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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And we can not survive for much longer with such things as factory farming, because it's destroying our environment.


right so your new strategy is to ignore information that invalidates your claims and come back with what seems to be a random disconnected sentance? I agree factory farming is bad though, free range tastes much better.

Oh and I apologise that I didn't adress this earlier

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also question what kind of products you use on your body


what exactly are you asking here? are you talking about shampoo or what?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: December 14, 2006
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Originally posted by ampmaster:
Oh and the advances you mention are expansions of knowledge, not evolution. Our genetic code did not change is some way to make medicine

edit: oh and I'm still waiting for proof of that 7 years claim



Our genetic code did not change in some way to go vegetarian also.
Living vegan is an expansion of knowledge also, so be smart.
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Registered: December 14, 2006
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And we can not survive for much longer with such things as factory farming, because it's destroying our environment.

There will be no strong or weak species if we do not start to consider this.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Oh and the advances you mention are expansions of knowledge, not evolution. Our genetic code did not change is some way to make medicine

edit: oh and I'm still waiting for proof of that 7 years claim


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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