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Picture of artemisgirl
Registered: September 14, 2007
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But who are we to say that being in jail for life is better than the death penalty? We recently talked about this in class, and one kid said that it was better to be locked away for the rest of their lives. But I for one would prefer to have some time to confess my sins and then die, rather than live in a cell the rest of my life thinking about what I have done to deserve that.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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No, but their crimes do.


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Registered: August 13, 2007
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If all we do is lock people up, we'll run out of room. I dare say that's already happened in some prisons...

That doesn't justify killing them.


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If all we do is lock people up, we'll run out of room. I dare say that's already happened in some prisons...


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what gives humans the right to pass judgement at all


the reason that humans get to pass judgement is because we have to keep order in our socioty, but to keep order we dont have to kill the offender we just have to lock them up.


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Registered: October 31, 2007
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I don't think the death sentance is bad as long as the person is truly found guilty and the crime is serious enough.
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Registered: October 22, 2007
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IF all you care about is what Jesus said to make your decisions then you're gonna have a rough time in life.

WHen someone commits murder I don't care if they feel guilty, I don't want the threat of their existence troubling my ever fragile mind..
Last time I checked GOd hasn't struck down any serial killers, and if he's the only one allowed to take life away, and he thinks they deserve to live, then He isn't too bright, and i sure don't want to listen to any more of his opinions...
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life in prison is the right punishment not death.


What gives humans the right to pass judgment at all? As Jesus once said, "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone."

Just playing devil's advocate, in case anyone's wondering.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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The right to give and take away life is solely in the hands of god, and the government has absolutly no right to take life away. the comandment says "Thow shalt not kill" not, thow shalt not kill unless they have been sentanced to the death penalty. life in prison is the right punishment not death.


As I recall the bible proscirbes stoning and other fun ways to put people to death for various crimes including murder


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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THE DEATH PENALTY IS WRONG!!!!!!
The right to give and take away life is solely in the hands of god, and the government has absolutly no right to take life away. the comandment says "Thow shalt not kill" not, thow shalt not kill unless they have been sentanced to the death penalty. life in prison is the right punishment not death.


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I wonder...once space travel becomes cheaper and more efficient, how long will it take for someone to suggest a prison planet (or moon)?


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Registered: August 13, 2007
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I think we should bring back the Socrates way of punishment... exile or hemlock.


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Registered: October 15, 2007
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The death penalty is a punishment that should exist because some people should be denied the right to live among us for their crimes. Stories of people abusing inocent kids and killing them are a prime example. Killer that have tortured their victims for the thrill or to have a since of power over someone deserve to die just like they killed their victims nothing less, forget all these "human rights" if he or she denied their victims human rights why should society grant them theirs.
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Registered: July 07, 2007
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i belive we need the death pentality...no one really deserves to die but the government needs to take how of those criminals. If we dont allow the death pentality our taxes are paying for prisioners to just take up sapce...its fine to pay for there food and other simple needs but we shouldnt help pay for their education if their not even going to leave prison its pointless and whats the point of letting those people sit around and do nothing
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Registered: April 03, 2006
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i dunno

i support the death penelty
because i do belive it would cause less murders
i know I(me) Would be ALOT more afraid if i knew death would result from it and im not sure but i think gangs would too but idk


being an individual. It's like you have to sift through the darkness to find your place and be that individual you want to be your entire life
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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It's just a form of institutionalized revenge.


wrong! it's institunionalized prevention with a large side of justice, unless we learn to read minds we can't prevent crime (not to mention the orwellian imlplications of that, "THOUGHT CRIME!") but we can sure as hell make sure they don't do it again


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: February 05, 2005
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if people knew that they had a chance of dying if the raped or killed someone you think that they would do it?

People are put to death in the US and I don't see any potential rapists or murderers acting any different because of it. The death penalty holds no deterrence value. It's just a form of institutionalized revenge.


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if people knew that they had a chance of dying if the raped or killed someone you think that they would do it?


Yes.


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Registered: June 13, 2007
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personally i think that the death penalty, should be put to just. like once before hammurabi put this coe to use 'an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth' personally i think if people knew that they had a chance of dying if the raped or killed someone you think that they would do it?
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We aren't the ones who are supposed to chose who dies or who lives God does


god is an idea, and you cant make a reasonable argument against death penalty with that.

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if we are doing this because they did it to someone else look in the mirror your no better then they are


Ok lets look in the mirror, I see a police officer who's job it is to pull the switch and kill the individual in that chair or that room over there. I see a jury who were faced with the choice of condemning an innocent man or bringing justice to a an evil man. I see a system who cant afford to keep too many prisoners in their prison. I see one man saying, "that guy killed a child, and raped his mother, and shows no remorse. how am i to deal with this level of evil?" Get my fucking point?

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if they are a threat to the WORLD yes its right but to one person no


If a person kills 43 women and bombs universities because he believes the world isin need of revolution, or if a person kills for sheer sport... then he is a danger to the world, because if you threw him into another country, he would do exactly the same thing.

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would you want to die if you did this you wouldn't get to see your family for the next at least 20-40 years


I'm not sure what you're referring to but you're referring to the criminal, then who really cares. Chances are, he probably doesnt care either. If he does, then that's pretty good punishment dont ya think? But to answer you're question if I were in the criminal's shoes, yes i would be upset.

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we should be making them feel guilty for who they killed and why they killed them give them PRISON FOR LIFE!!!


Many of them never feel guilty and couldnt care less. Some are probably even happy to be in prison for all the attention they muster from the media in being caught, and their stories being told again and again. And for those who do... ironically, they have to wait on death row for a long time anyway, awaiting death, which i imagine is probably the hardest thing for them to deal with.


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