"I didn't assume squat, I already explained that, I simply stated I thought your argument was stupid."
yes you did. you assumed that when i said what i said i was talking about all liberals and thats how this entire stupid and pointless argument got started.
"I didn't jump on you for saying it was unusual, it was for you being an ***, (is that one your "funnies"?), and you admitted you were making a big deal out of it."
it was a big deal and all i did was ask you if you were trying to be funny. God.
"Darling, saying damn liberals does not mean you think they are damned, does ****ing liberals mean you think they are literally having sex?"
no but you told me that thats what i said.
"And if I change it to "impossible liberals" to get you to shut up, does that help? Because my point is still made."
did you read the first line of that post. "more like impossible to please liberals"
"So if I say **** you it is your fault for assuming it was an insult instead of a sexual offer?"
actualy that would be an insult. you can tell by the context.
"Ri-ight. You say "liberals are ____", well I've taken logic classes in college and that means "all liberals are _____""
so youve talked about callling liberal names? what kind of college is that?
i"f you don't mean it, don't say it, unless you are making a joke, in which case it should be obvious that it is a joke."
i did mean it but i wasnt implying al liberals.
"You *******. I wasn't saying they were cheap, I was using that statement as an example of how if someone says "x is y" it implies that "all x are y", as in if someone said "Jews are cheap" you would take that to mean all just like "liberals are pessimistic" means all."
no it doesnt and dont call me a *******.
"Are you completely unable to think in terms of "what if", because those are the terms I was asking in, so whether or not it has ever happened should be irrelevant."
i lost the thread. can you explain?
"Never said what? The quote you cited did not include the words "you said". It was all about how you were being defensive about me saying things that I hadn't even hinted at, and I was saying that when you treat people like that you will yield negative results and your underestimations will only be pounded in further, at your own fault."
i didnt catch any of that.
"Wow you don't listen. It isn't about you having some examples, it's about you using those examples to assume things on a broader scale."
no you speak in terms of idealism and i speak n terms of realism.
"So are you not responsible for talking in ways like "you liberals", implying all liberals are part of whatever the subject it, because we should just twist it around to cut you slack? If you don't want something taken as a blanket statement, don't make blanket statements."
did i say 'you liberals are all impossible?' and i know you didnt say i said that so dont give me that crap but that would be the only case when i would take blame.
"Don't take it like that?"
you were mad becuse you thought i implied all libs when i didnt.
"You straight defended yourself against something I hadn't even come near saying, how is that not you underestimating me?"
i am defending myself from your attack and accusations of implying all liberals.
"How is that not you making an assumption? How is it my fault that I take ******* remarks for what they are?"
no you took it the wrong way and that is not my fault. i never assume all are involved uness i sure as hell know all are involved. you are trying to discredit me for somthing i never said.
"As I said, according to logistical speech, "liberals are" is the same as saying "all liberals are"."
no it doesnt.
""Liberals" does not mean "politically active liberals", you know what you should say if you mean "politically active liberals"?"
people can be liberals without even knowing it but they dont go out and be *******s.
"That's right: "politically active liberals". Oh, and how am I not politically active?"
do you hold office? do you run around getting involved in things that dont involve you? do you have a blind hatred towards bush? do you sympathize terrorists? thats what i think politically active libs are. i could go on but id rather not. it gets me sick to see what libs are.
"Just because I act out on moral issues in politics and not things like economics is that a problem? And what do you know about my political activism nitwit?"
i never said i did you moron.
"My protests, my petitions, my letters to Wally Herger and Diane Feinstein, what the hell do you know about those?"
did i say i know anything about those?
"I never said you said that."
again screw the hoe is adi you said. thing
"I'm talking about when you curse at people. Like when you cursed at root without provocation equivalent to your reaction."
oh so know its about my cursing? before it was i mke generalizations then blanket statements, now its cursing whats next?
"Your precise words were "how do I NOT draw the conclusion that you are a liberal", so how am I taking that in a way I shouldn't be taking it when all I did was repeat your own words by saying "And how could you not draw that conclusion?"."
but did is ay that you were impossible? or anything alog those lines?
"Either only make assumptions about the issues which you have debated with me on or don't make assumptions at all. Duh."
im not soley going to debate with you. if you come in in the middle of one of my arguments and start acting al offened because i generalized, dont expect to waste my tie. i alread hate this stupid argument. it is so drawn out and is a waste of time. i did not come here to takl about genralizations and stuff like that. you are making a big deal out of somthing that didnt need to be made into a big deal.
"Didn't I already say that I am not liberal on all issues?"
actaully you asid you didnt know enough about politics to decide.
"Who knows better what I think red, you or me?"
you do wich reminds me of somthiong else liberals do.
"I don't give a **** if you can tell in most cases, that doesn't mean you can tell in all. You can't read minds, deal with it."
i was making a statement.
"That's right, because it's my own fault that I took something as blatantly condescending as "this might be hard for you to grasp" in a negative way,"
i wasnt talking abou that./ i was talking about impossible liberals and statements along those lines.
"not your fault for talking down to me like that. Not all your fault? Tell me, what part of it is my fault or the fault of someone other then you? All I do is refuse to tiptoe around your rude comments and ignore them. I address them. Oh how dare I."
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"I told you, find me a republican in office saying something positive about Clinton, not just yourself as an example, and then I will take finding a liberal in office saying something positive about Bush as an equivalent challenge. Oh, and how does whether or not people in office say something effect who I am and the assumptions you have reason to make about me, just because they are liberal and you think I am liberal? It is irrelevant because the argument isn't about whether or not some liberals feel certain ways, but whether that gives you sufficient reasons to make statements about all liberals. "
i didnt ****ing make statements about all liberals. what must i do to get that past your skull?
"Really? Because my freind and I agree that one of the reasons the race is so close is because with Kerry you don't know what you are getting, but Bush is solid, he has his opinions, and he doesn't seem to apologize unless he means it, he doesn't act like because you are wrong or unpopular in a case that you should deny your beliefs."
no one knows anything about kerry. and it explans the liberals blind hatred toward him. kerry is just a vessle in thier all out attack on bush. also you are robably more of a moderate liberal if thats possible. im talkinga bout teh extremist liberal media holywood, the libs in office, the sue happy people and stuf like that.
"Is this the "I asked you first" argument? How adult of you. Oh, and you challenged me with no pretense for the challenge, because you had not presented evidence that needed matching, you presented only an example about yourself and acted like that required an example of a liberal in office."
fine ill find you one. so long as you find me one.
"I'll try harder if you like
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"Once again, I never said you said I did that. I was saying that because I did none of those things you had no reason to say I was yelling at you. "
oh the insanity! stop the damn argument on i said you said s id. im not blaming you soley so dont take it tht way either. just stop it.
"So even though I have already explained how in logistics your statements are blanket statements, and even though you not only try to put me in a group you have no right to decide I belong to but also then make blanket statements about that group, it is my fault that I react as I do? It isn't you being rude, it's just me running away with the notion that you were accusing me? Bull****, I say."
i do not control you to take it that ay. it is impossible to say, well 47% of liberals think this whil 65% think this. you get bogged down in stuff that doesnt need to get bogged down in. its like the senate. in fact thats what this argument reminds me of. sometimes they get into this completely ludicrous argument that is way off track and othing ever gets done.
"Nothing in the quote said anything about you saying all libs are stupid."
drop the damn argument.
""Liberals are" = "All liberals are" as I said, it's logic. And saying you didn't "out and out" say that is like saying "I said I hate your mother's brother, I didn't out and out say that I hated your uncle.""
considring that their the same thing and liberals are and all liberals are are two completely different things.
"In a rush, can't edit, though it shouldn't have that great of an effect. Anyways, your argument become increasingly pathetic in my opinion,"
in your op. i coud say the same to you. in fact this entire thing was just done to start some stupid an pointless argument. congrats n starting it.
"such as when I reply to negative comments you make and you constantly say I shouldn't have taken it that way."
again i wasnt talking abou that.
"You are slipping, and you are an idiot in my opinion,"
agin in your op. you seem like one to me.
"but I am used to it at this point. And if you wonder why I ridicule you for name-calling and do it myself, it is because you are going against your own claims in doing so, while I make no pretenses about how I enjoy calling you the ******* that I believe you are."
**** you. you are no different han those "politically correct liberals" i dont give a **** if it doesnt reach your exact standards. and what isa id implies to those who are too ignorant to see it. after this i will no longer reply to ti so board this has gotten extremyl stupid and pontless . and is a trap that has strayed me from my agenda.
i want oyu to look at what every republican in he world says. do they ever say most liberals or all liberals? in some occasions they do. but the majority of the time they dont. then look at the liberals in the world today. do they ever say most republicans or all republicans? no they just say republicans. its thae way it is get used to it.
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