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Picture of iankinzel
Registered: March 30, 2005
Posts: 225
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Here's a basic summary of my beliefs. Feel free to post your own and add new issues that I have ommitted.

Political Party:Democrat.

Abortion:Pro-choice for the first trimester; after that, pro-life unless the pregnancy presents a possible health risk (or if it's a rape victim who couldn't get an abortion until after the first trimester). However, we should promote programs that can help prevent unwanted pregnancies (eg sex ed).

Taxes:Raise them for the two highest tax brackets. People don't seem to realize that what we lose in taxes comes back to us in government benefits.

Gay Marriage:Civil unions are "separate but equal." Our constitution protects same-sex marriage.

Government Spending: Just make sure you can pay for it. I also think that the concept of a "safety net" is crucial to increase social mobility.

Government: I prefer a strong federal government. "States' Rights" have been used as an excuse to maintain so many societal ills- slavery, segregation, etc.

Military: Use it responsibly (e.g. first Gulf War) with a specific, attainable goal in peace-keeping missions. If somebody attacks us, then we should go after the group that attacked us (but look out for the civilians).

Environment:Government and business have a responsibility to make sure that our planet doesn't deteriorate. Enough said.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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Oh, I'm going to faint now.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 06, 2004
Posts: 3373
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It's the Federalism that males me a Democrat. My Avatar is Alexander Hamilton for a reason. I can't say that I have voted for a Democrat more than once(Walter Mondale after Paul Welstone died). And I feel that my party has abandoned the JFK Democrats like myself. JFK decreased the size of government and beleived in temporary but frequent tax cuts. I am a Democrat, if I left my party it woud let the others win. The party of ethics, faith values, peace, strong military, aggressive foreign economic policy that Kennedy served with would die forever. Us Blue Dogs have to stick with it. Ideally I would think that my values would be better represented by another party, but I am a pragmatist. Some people feel that to belong to a party means that they must adhere to the party's beleifs. I want to change my party.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6058
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FML always struck me as pro-choice and pro-civil union, but never as a Democrat. Maybe a psuedo-liberal Republican, but not a Dem.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: December 14, 2004
Posts: 5770
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I think someone stole FML's password. Oh, it must be the alcohol speaking.


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Registered: June 06, 2004
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Political Party: Democrat *the crowd falls silent in astonishment*

Abortion:Pro Choice *The crowd remains astonished*

Taxes: I support taxes and beleive they are good. But I think it should be illegal for any person to pay more than 49% of their income in taxes. That means that you add up all you federal, state, property and sales tax and it should never add up to more than 49% of my income. It would be unfair for someone else to benefit more from me than I do.

Gay Marriage:I support Civil Unions *the crowd stays silent*

Government Spending: I support "big government" but require it to be more efficient. I also do not support deficit spending.

Government: I am an ardent Federalist and think States Right arguments are bull 9 times out of ten. If it's unethical in Alabama, it's unethical in Massachussetts, and vice-versa.

Military: I support heavy military spending. A powerful defense is important for spreading democracy and maintaining good in the world(I do not consider Iraq an example of this)

Environment:I hate tree huggers. People first.


Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV -Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: April 03, 2004
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First of all watch your mouth, your not a woman, you dont even know what it would be like to carry child in your body.

Your sick man, do you know about the late second and third trimester?


Marine, I wasn't aware that you were female. If you are male, however, I find it interesting how you know what it feels like to carry a child.


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Registered: March 30, 2005
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We need to stop killing people.

Hmm. Now, I wonder what this war is about. . . Abortion isn't killing people, walrus.


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Registered: August 01, 2005
Posts: 47
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We need to stop killing people.


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Picture of bluedemocrat
Registered: December 14, 2004
Posts: 5770
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Marine, seriously stop with the insults. You don't have to be pro-choice, but stop telling people that they have to be pro-life. You are going to get banned like Jamaica.


They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: January 12, 2005
Posts: 750
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Originally posted by clpo13:
That's what I said didn't I? I may not be a woman, but I'm not a pro-life fascist.
Nope, your a bush-hating communist! LOL
Big Grin


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Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6058
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That's what I said didn't I? I may not be a woman, but I'm not a pro-life fascist.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
Picture of Marine13
Registered: April 15, 2005
Posts: 224
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Or not. I do know what a late-term abortion is. I've had pro-lifers explaining to me ever since I first decided I was pro-choice. Yet I still don't care. Big whoop. It's still a fetus.



First of all watch your mouth, your not a woman, you dont even know what it would be like to carry child in your body.

Your sick man, do you know about the late second and third trimester?

http://www.pregnancy.org/pregnancy/fetaldevelopment2.php

take a look and read a little and then let me know, and the pictures you'll see on this specific page im telling you to look at are only in the second trimester...and your saying its cool for a woman to go into labor, have a child suck the brains out and then finish labor?


"Che cosa facciamo nella vita, echos nel eternity."
Picture of Marine13
Registered: April 15, 2005
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Throwing a graphic description of late-term abortion out is nothing but a pro-life scare tactic.


Actually I wasnt trying to scare anyone, and it wansnt that graphic? It was the truth, how do you want me to explain it, the only way you can explain it is graphically *******. I dont see how its scary if you support it why would it scare you?


"Che cosa facciamo nella vita, echos nel eternity."
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Registered: December 14, 2004
Posts: 5770
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maybe that was the first time someone actually explained to you what it is....hmmmm....


I have heard about the process, btw. It is not something that I would choose to do. However, I don't choose to drink or smoke, and I don't think either should be illegal.

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omg sorry!!! ****, im so sorry im commenting on something you wrote on this thread, i should have searched for the specific page that says "ok your allowed to say it now!!!".


It would be nice if this thread could remain a "personal beliefs" thread to simply post your personal beliefs. Considering that you have not posted yours, I'd suggest that you do so. You can rant about partial-birth abortions then.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Or not. I do know what a late-term abortion is. I've had pro-lifers explaining to me ever since I first decided I was pro-choice. Yet I still don't care. Big whoop. It's still a fetus.

Throwing a graphic description of late-term abortion out is nothing but a pro-life scare tactic.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
Picture of Marine13
Registered: April 15, 2005
Posts: 224
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maybe that was the first time someone actually explained to you what it is....hmmmm....


"Che cosa facciamo nella vita, echos nel eternity."
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Registered: April 15, 2005
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omg sorry!!! ****, im so sorry im commenting on something you wrote on this thread, i should have searched for the specific page that says "ok your allowed to say it now!!!".

Is that all you can give me, after my explination of late-term abortion? Weak, so weak, come on now?


"Che cosa facciamo nella vita, echos nel eternity."
Picture of bluedemocrat
Registered: December 14, 2004
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And your for all abortions....sick, sick, sick.


That's nice. You do know that you can argue about abortions on a different thread.


They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: March 02, 2003
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If you want to argue with me, do it on the appropriate thread.

And **** you. I think taking away a woman's rights is sick.


When the president talks to god are the conversations brief or long? Does he ask to rape our women's rights and send more farm kids off to die? Does God suggest an oil hike when the president talks to god?
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