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Registered: December 14, 2004
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I surprised that there hasn't been more discussion about Terry Schiavo, the Florida woman who has been in a persistent vegatative state for fifteen years. Her husband has successfully won the right in courts to remove her feeding tube, which will eventually kill her. The Conservative members of Congress are outraged and are fighting the court's descion, even though multiple courts have ruled in favor of the husband. The Supreme Court refuses to rule on this issue. Personally, if I was her husband, I think I would want to remove her feeding tube. I would have been suffering for fifteen years and I would want to move on with my life. However, I don't know because I've never been in that situation. I'm more interested in what people think about Congress. Honestly, I don't think they have the right to try to interfere with the courts' descion. They can disagree with it all they want. However, the life of Terry Schiavo was left in the hands of the courts. The Congress has no right to interfere in the courts descion plain and simple.
They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: December 14, 2003
Posts: 381
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In what I hope will be the last post on this thread, I will simply offer the following philosophic thought: I like to believe that every person on this earth is fulfilling a purpose, whether that's to save someone, educate someone or something else that may not have been possible had that particular person never existed. I recently saw a political cartoon in the newspaper that illustrated this, the panel had six people all saying these things, which I will quote: quote: "She helped me confront difficult issues..."
"...She compelled me to think about my own mortality..."
"...She educated me on the role of courts and politicians..."
"...She enlightened me about the importance of a living will..."
"...She reminded me about the endless love of parents..."
"Without ever saying a word."
So maybe Terri's purpose for living was to enlighten society about these things, and if she hadn't have lived, this may not have been accomplished. So to honor Terri's memory, think about these lessons that the Terri Schiavo case has taught us, and learn from them. Thank you, and goodnight.
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Registered: April 12, 2005
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i really can't believe that some people consider this as murder, i rather call it putting her out of her suffering, cause i don't think it's that much fun not being able to do anything and having other people to shower you and being kept alive while you don't have any use to live any more, the way they did let her die was pretty stupid they let her die for 13-14 days or something, they could have done that a lot faster, for example they did it with my grandmother in just a couple of days by not giving her food or water and giving to much morfine. and her parents' should be ashamed of themselfs for rather seeing her suffering and sitting in a chair like a corpse then having her dead, i understand it sounds cruel but sitting in a chair for the rest of your life is much more cruel
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Registered: May 03, 2003
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I can't believe they are still arguing over this. Let is rest.
I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: January 03, 2005
Posts: 2470
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This past week has been hellish for me and my school. Spend as much time as you can with your friends and family. Leave the thing in. What's the difference (oh no!! that was a bad question and most, if not all of you will eat me alive with it...)? Really? Her Mom and Dad had no right? Thats BS. Total BS. Wrong. They should have been able to make the decisions. They raised her. They cared for her. The husband wasn't there at 5 days old changing diapers. Give me break...
"When you pull on that jersey, the name on the front is a hell of alot more important than the one on the back." Herb Brooks
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Registered: March 24, 2005
Posts: 194
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the husband should let the parents bury her. its better that way.
undermine thier authority, reject thir moral standards, make anarchy & disorder your trademarks. cause chaos & disruption but don't let them take you ALIVE! -sid vicious
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Registered: March 31, 2005
Posts: 21
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oh gotcha... if you ask me i think the husband should just let the parents bury her where they want .. i think hes being a jerk..
It's not about gender, It's not about race, It's about finding your soul..... Get Wet! Surf Chick
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Registered: January 16, 2004
Posts: 3993
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Yes, but now the parents are fighting the husband in that they want her buried in Flordia and he wants her cremated in Pennsylvania.
L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: March 31, 2005
Posts: 21
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didnt she die?
It's not about gender, It's not about race, It's about finding your soul..... Get Wet! Surf Chick
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Registered: December 14, 2004
Posts: 5770
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quote: From today this argument is over... Yes it is. It would nice, though, if the media would let the Schiavo/Schindler families bury their wife/daughter in peace.
They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: November 27, 2004
Posts: 1322
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From today this argument is over...
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: July 07, 2004
Posts: 457
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quote: cannpt believe liberals. they fight to extend ever last right to criminals and felons. they fight and scream when a terrorist is begin interrogated. but when it comes to the case of terry schiavo, an innocent, law abiding citizen, "we must kill her" and no tonly kill hetr. we must kill her painfully and excruciatingly slow.
The reason we think this way is because it's none of the government's business. They SHOULD be doing something about the war or the Social Security Crisis or helping the homless, but instead, they're caught up in a family feud over, no offense to Mrs. Shiavo, an unimportant person who is brain dead, has been for the past 15 years, and will always BE. Whether or not Mrs. Shiavo has her feeding tube put back is up to her legal guardien, her husband, and her family. Our government shouldn't be spending their time on something for only one person.
Member of the NDLC*, est. 2005 (National Democratic-Liberal Coalition)
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Registered: March 10, 2005
Posts: 745
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quote: Originally posted by ampmaster: I guess all the religous folks can pray and the activists can attack their favorite legislature with e-mail but short of kidnapping schiavo and stealing a feeding tube machine nobody can do much with this one
really? (**rolls eyes**)
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
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Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13981
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I guess all the religous folks can pray and the activists can attack their favorite legislature with e-mail but short of kidnapping schiavo and stealing a feeding tube machine nobody can do much with this one
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: March 10, 2005
Posts: 745
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thank you Butternut, I completely agree.
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
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Registered: March 29, 2005
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really all tehy are doing is trying to pass legislation before schiavo dies. they have only publicly voiced ther opinions about that sick judge.
i cannpt believe liberals. they fight to extend ever last right to criminals and felons. they fight and scream when a terrorist is begin interrogated. but when it comes to the case of terry schiavo, an innocent, law abiding citizen, "we must kill her" and no tonly kill hetr. we must kill her painfully and excruciatingly slow. Mrs. Schiavo is not on life suport. she has all of her functioning organs. her family loves except for that ******* who ditched her for another woman. this is proof of the last vestige of decency being wiped away from American society.
</liberalism>
First of all, you make sweeping generalizations about "liberals". Uh, not all liberals think alike, not all conservatives think alike, didn't Mommy or Daddy EVER explain that to you? You cannot believe liberals, I don't doubt it, because you obviously weren't raised to have an open mind and think outside the box.
Yeah, I forgot, all liberals are commie nazi fascist marxist icky old meanies and all republicans are clear thinking angels who would NEVER have anything to do with terrorists. Of course not..
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Registered: September 29, 2004
Posts: 3690
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quote: Originally posted by clpo13: I don't know how much more of this brouhaha I can stand.
I love the word brouhaha. I was waiting for it. ...I have nothing else relevant to say. 
A lo hecho, pecho.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6058
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quote: normally the Bennifer covers make me want to hurl...
I hear ya. I only read People because my parents leave it sitting on the table when I eat breakfast and, lacking a cereal box to read, I pick the magazine up and flip through it, just to have something to do whilst munching on Pop Tarts and bananas. Yes, apparently the Schindlers have found out that there isn't anything more they can do, short of an act of God, or an act of Jeb Bush. I really hope it doesn't come to that, though. I don't know how much more of this brouhaha I can stand.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: December 14, 2004
Posts: 5770
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I read in the papers this morning (The New York Times and the Boston Globe for you source-nazis) that Schiavo's parents have given up on the case.
They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: March 09, 2005
Posts: 8
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I feel so sorry for that poor woman.The government really doesn't need to be involved. I think that it shouldn't involved the Supreme Court whatsoever. How on earth does an argument between a family pertain to the entire country not to mention the Constitution? Especially because she had an oral living will saying that she would rather die then live on life support.
If you take an eye for an eye you will only end up with a world of blindness
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