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<JoeyDauben>
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Interesting article in reason this month; highlights three books by Democrats: Madeline Albright George Soros Wesley Clark Let's try to put this in very, very simple terms. And please note, I did not support, nor will I ever, an undeclared (Article I, Section 8) war. Clinton bombed Kosovo for 78 days - without UN approval. Nobody said crap. Bush invoked UN Resolution 1441 to invade Iraq - the world goes ape-sh**. Now, someone please tell me why the hypocrisy? Soros rails against global capitalism, but yeah, if ya know, he's the one that has privately bailed out many communist governments (he's a billionaire yet he gripes about capitalism - now there's an idiot). BUT, the premise of this article is basically...it depends on which political party you represent...world opinion didn't agree with Iraq I or II. But world opinion didn't say crap during Clinton's "wars." Clark says basically the same thing, but in different ways, mainly relying on his experience and what not. This only proves one thing - this thread I mean - if you're going to rail against Republican/neocon wars, do it for Dems too. And hey, do it against the socialist/communist/fascists too that murder their people. I find it so appalling that the people railing against Bush for waging a war on Iraq will represent and adhere to economic/government policies that have been used to kill MILLIONS! Talk about hypocrisy. Where's your protesters then? http://www.joeydauben.com
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Registered: March 21, 2004
Posts: 549
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Kosovo was bombing. Iraq was a major ground assault. There's your difference.
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Registered: April 13, 2003
Posts: 522
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well i'm glad an american agrees wit me! you see sometimes ppl say i'm anti-american when i say such things! but it's not true! and i stopped bothering what ppl say!  but i mean such bombings really bother me soooooooooo much! as many of you don't know how it is to be in war! as i was younger the yugoslav ppl's army (Cro,BiH,SCG,Mac) attacked and bombed my country and i can tell ya it's not nice! so now my country's safe and really peacefull since our independence in 1991! and i love to live here!
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Registered: August 26, 2003
Posts: 573
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I agree. Americans can be dumb some times. What am I saying? I'm American. That proves my point! 
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Registered: April 13, 2003
Posts: 522
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the most stupid mistake the americans do is that they bomb everything what comes in their way! there was no need to bomb serbia,iraq,kosovo it is all sooooooo f****n' stupid!!!!!!!!!! and toooooooo many civilists die!!!!!
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Registered: August 26, 2003
Posts: 573
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I dunno. I think that the whole government is messed up. If you ask me, I think that people that actually know what they're doing should get to choose what's going to happen to this country. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if we have tomorrow that'll last 8 years. The whole thing is full of sh!t.
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<JoeyDauben>
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There's no difference in you people.
You're all "protect you own," no accountability or no responsibility whatsoever.
Iraq was a mistake; both of them. The UN is a mistake.
But Clinton did just like Bush did, but without the world opinion-approved UN mandate; oh, and he had our men placed under global command, not the US.
Same with Iraq.
All actions not declared are just that: actions.
They are not wars.
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Registered: April 13, 2003
Posts: 522
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about Kosovo, first of all there are no natural resources that someone could "steal" like oil in iraq. second about nuclear weapons in iraq, IT WAS ALL A LIE! then in kosovo also ther countries were let to help kosovo not like in iraq where only those who helped in the war.......
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Registered: April 09, 2003
Posts: 339
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Clinton's attack on kosovo was justifiable.. This status quo is totally different,Bush connived with tony blair and fibbed on Iraq 1)They lied about Iraq purported procurment of Uranium from Iraq 2)They defied the UN authority and Entered Iraq 3)The US threatens any person Opposed to their reprehensible action 4)OPEC....Yes,The US is helpless due to the fact that OPEC is not susceptible to their manipulative philosophy.
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Registered: October 22, 2002
Posts: 1068
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I don't buy into the NWO stuff, but, certainly, Soros, the U.N., etc. are a bunch of elitists. That tends to happen to anybody of power ("Absolute power corrupts absolutely", as the saying goes). It doesn't matter whether they're liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat. It's just that real-world liberalism inherently favors elitism. Anything that expands government power - and money supplies - provides, in turn, more money and power for the elitists with their upturned noses. Shrinking government and cutting the government money supply is entirely antithetical to elitism and what it requires to continue.
Soros can dictate to others what to think, how to live, and whom to support because he has the money to independently lobby government. Worse still, he's rich enough to be his own government. He doesn't give a whit about the practicality of his ideas and that they've failed before. Same for the U.N. I don't think it's an accident that the majority of billionaires lean left, not to mention governments.
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