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Picture of redrepublican
Registered: June 04, 2004
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"Today Iraq spoke to the world. They proclaimed freedom in the meart of the Middle East. That voice may still be small, but it wil not be silenced."

-President George W Bush January 30 on the Free Iraqi Election

Operation iraqi Freedom has been accomplished. We have won. The Iraq War was and is a brilliant foreign policy move.

I would first like to poin out the parallels between Bush and Reagen. Reagen procliamed early in his presdidency,

"The Soviet Union will fall by its own weight-if someone opposes them."

Reagen was mocked and ridiculed but by the end of the decade, not only had the Soviet Union fallen, but the entire Eastern Bloc had fallen. Heck, now you could argue that the Eastern Europe is now more free that most of western Europe!
Bush believed that if the peoples of the Middle East were offered an alternative, a free alternative, to the monarchies and the dictatorships, they would take it. last weekend proved all of that as more than 60% of the Iraqi people went out to vote.

There are those who believe that America is an evil country who spreads war and the like. to them i ask,
Who gave the Iraqis their freedom? Who gave them their democracy? who liberated them from their evil Saddam dictator?
it wasnt the UN. it wasnt France. it wasnt Germany. It was the "Great Evil Nation" a.k.a the United States.
To the liberals and Americans who argued that the Iraqis cannot have democracy (freedom) because they dont know what it is and they cannot handle it [democracy or freedom].
What did the voter turnout tell you?
to the Muslims who believe that America is the Great Satan. Who gave the Muslims in Iraq the freedom of religion? who gave them the chance to finally worship their god(s)? the Americans did. not the atheist Sadam and not the UN. a foreign policy miracle that nothing less.
and the fact that the Iraqis would trust an American voting system is just more proof of what a brilliant foriegn policy move this is.

The Democrats are filled with one emotion.Do you know what that emotion is? its towards bush. its not hatred. well at least not in this case. it is envy. they are so envious that it this victory is a republican victory and not one of theirs.
CAN YOU IMAGINE IF BILL CLINTON BROUGHT DEMOCRACY TO THE IRAQIS? it would be on the front pages of every newspapaer and the coverage would suddenly be positive. and yet they opposed this war.
again i will ask: whatever happened to the compassionate liberal response? the one that went like this: "We are a compassionate, loving people who want to spread love and peace throughout the world unlike those evil republicans who are all about war."
if they were all about peace and love than why did they stand by for twelve years and allow saddam's merciless purge of kurds to occur?
if the liberals were in power, there is no doubt that saddam would still be in power and hans blix would stil be riding his jeep in the joke that weapons inspections were.
and not only are they envious that bush did this, they are beside themselves that he succeeded in SPITE of their obstruction.
to all you liberals who moan and moan incessantly about the insurgents, let me ask you what have they accomplished? they have accomplished absolutely nothing. they didnt slow down the elction. they didnt stop the liberation of Iraqis
No one thought the Soviet Union would ahve fallen in a decade and no one thought that Iraqis would have a democracy in less than two years. this is one of the most blatant and obvious foreign policy miracles of our time. this is on the same scale as the destruction of the Berlin Wall.
Republicans solved the Cold War. They are solving the modern terror crisis. odd enough, these problems were allowed to become crisis under their predecessors which were both liberal democrats. i find that very interesting.

what have john kerry, nancy pelosi, teddy kennedy, john edwards, the FORMER SENATOR tom daschle and patrick leahy done to contribute to this glorious success? nothing. in fact quite the contrary. they OBSTRUCTED IT.
this is a callign to all of you liberals who moan and groan about how this war is a failure. if this is a failure, then what is World War 2 where casualties were expotential to what they are now?
the great success of the war wil just be one more of the great chapters of Bush's legacy and you are envious that this ais a republican victory.


Honorable Senate Majority Leader (R-WI) "Liberals have gone stark-raving mad, yes,"- Euterpe
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Registered: August 20, 2003
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"Redefining the role of the United States from enablers to keep the peace to enablers to keep the peace from peacekeepers is going to be an assignment."
—Interview with the New York Times, Jan. 14, 2001


"I want it to be said that the Bush administration was a results-oriented administration, because I believe the results of focusing our attention and energy on teaching children to read and having an education system that's responsive to the child and to the parents, as opposed to mired in a system that refuses to change, will make America what we want it to be—a literate country and a hopefuller country."
—Washington, D.C., Jan. 11, 2001

"She is a member of a labor union at one point."
—Announcing his nomination of Linda Chavez as secretary of labor. Austin, Texas, Jan. 2, 2001

"The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law."
—Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000

"I am mindful not only of preserving executive powers for myself,
but for predecessors as well."
—Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2001

Dr. Seuss publishers have more influence on our government than they ever could have hoped!


The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mystical. It is the source of all true art and science. --Albert Einstein
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Registered: December 13, 2004
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Actually, Bush won the 2004 popular vote as well as electoral college. Just not the in the 2000 election.


"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams."
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Registered: March 01, 2004
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You made some nice points Redrepublican, and I can tell your not just "spouting off at the mouth", you know your stuff. But your not a liberal so you don't how we think, and we don't all think alike! I don't like president Bush, but not because he's republican, I would vote conservative if I liked the canidate better. It does tick me off that Bush won, and lost the popular vote, but thats not his fault. I agree that this was an Iraqi victory not American. (See here I could say "Thats just like Republicans, trying to take the victory", but that would be stereotypical wouldn't it...) And I can only hope that Bush was right and that this holds up and we don't have more needless casualties...


Next time you think about your High School graduation, realize 1/3 of the graduating class is missing.
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Registered: December 13, 2004
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I'll admit that I'm glad the Iraq elections went off relatively smoothly. However, that's a victory of the people of Iraq. Not the republicans.
And how, exactly, did liberals obstruct the war? They opposed it, certainly. But were troops ever pulled out because of them? Did they run in and jump in front of our soldiers guns? They disagreed with the war, and many will continue to disagree with it.


"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams."
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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It's you who are of the utter idiots who believe it'll work. This isn't the Soviet Union, this is Iraq. A nation (or a group of nations if you talk on the Middle East) that has always been in war and nothing will stop it. These people are used to it by now. Thinking this will last even five decades is insane.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: July 15, 2004
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I liked waht clpo3 said. Nicely put.

Bush got an election through. Yipee! Good luck trying to get people who wanted to be left alone to follow a government they don't approve of. Yes, beautiful plan.

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its towards bush. its not hatred. well at least not in this case. it is envy. they are so envious that it this victory is a republican victory and not one of theirs.

I'll be envious of Bush when he gets to make out with Toufer Grace. I think something that stupid is the only time I'd envy him. The words envy and Bush just don't work together.


"I let my brother go to the devil in his own way" -Robert Louis Stevenson
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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The Democrats are filled with one emotion.Do you know what that emotion is? its towards bush. its not hatred. well at least not in this case. it is envy. they are so envious that it this victory is a republican victory and not one of theirs.


Hmm, I think it's more hatred.

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to all you liberals who moan and moan incessantly about the insurgents, let me ask you what have they accomplished? they have accomplished absolutely nothing. they didnt slow down the elction. they didnt stop the liberation of Iraqis


They killed countless American soliders and innocent civilians. They forced most of the rest of the "coalition" out by holding their citizens hostage. America stayed because we didn't want to back out like we did in 'Nam.

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Republicans solved the Cold War. They are solving the modern terror crisis. odd enough, these problems were allowed to become crisis under their predecessors which were both liberal democrats. i find that very interesting.


No one "solved" the cold war. Reagan did not go over and push the Soviet Union over. The USSR fell apart because of internal conflicts, not because of anything the US did. And no one is solving the terrorism "crisis", as you put it, either. Have we made the insurgents stop? No, they are still running around killing every Westerner they can find. It is a long way from over.

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this is a callign to all of you liberals who moan and groan about how this war is a failure. if this is a failure, then what is World War 2 where casualties were expotential to what they are now?


The war was a failure. The elections may have been a success. We shall see about that. They may have been pulled off, but what if it turns out that they elect someone who will throw Iraq back into a dictatorship? It has not been finished yet. And the war is a failure because we have lost soldiers who weren't even fighting. At least in WWII, the numbers were from battles. Here, the casualties are from roadside bombs and the like. We made a mistake even going into Iraq. We should have stayed in Afghanistan where we were wanted.

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the great success of the war wil just be one more of the great chapters of Bush's legacy and you are envious that this ais a republican victory.


Do you see any jealous liberals? I sure don't. The only Republican victory I've seen lately was the 2004 election. Why don't you stop making generalizations and get with the program?

By the way, proper capitalization would make you seem a lot smarter than you apparently are.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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